No Changes after RNY surgery

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Sandra, I don't think anyone here is being condescending but rather are expressing their frustration. I also don't think that they are expressing "hate" of any kind. To suggest that they "hate themselves" and not you, I feel, is more hateful than anything anyone has said to you. People have chosen this journey out of self love, in order to change their lives, as I'm sure you did.

I'm glad that you are losing weight, however you also have to look at the type of weight you're losing. The program is what it is because your body has to relearn how to digest food. Your stomach is not only smaller but by bypassing your duodenum your body is unable to absorb nutrients as effectively. The post-op phases are there to limit post-surgical complications, but to also ensure that your body is able get enough protein to a) heal b) lose fat not muscle. If you are eating things like pasta, ice cream (even if just two bites), and other things not on the plan, you are depriving your body of the protein it needs. The plan is there so that we can effectively consume AND absorb enough protein to maintain health post-operatively. To assume that you're eating less calories than most of us on here is a grave generalization, and also inaccurate. Most of us fresh out of surgery are focusing on getting in our protein, fluids, and vitamins and not measuring our macros. Although, I will say that I eat about 400-500 calories per day, all of which come from nutrient and protein rich foods- as per my plan. 

If you are pushing the boundaries so early out, what's going to happen 3 months from now when it REALLY feels like you didn't have surgery? Are you going to reach for that chocolate cake, because you can? The comment about being weeded out during the psych evaluation was hard to read, I'm sure. However, the psych appointments are there detect any self destructive or self sabotaging behaviour- which you are now exhibiting.

It's always good to ask questions and question why things are the way they are. I do it all the time! But, for your health's sake, I hope you decide to change your mind and go back to the plan. Please don't be angry with anyone on here. They're not "hating", they're just frustrated by your choices. They only want for you for what they want for themselves and all of us- and that's success.

I have a question. I'm going to have my surgery on March 16th at TWH in Toronto. We were given a binder stating what we could eat at each stage post op from TWH.  On the liquid stage it says we can have sugar free ice cream.  Is this ok to have - as you post-op patients have more experience.  I know it says we can have  but I want to be sure before eating it. 

Sorry for interjecting my question into your post. As I haven't had my surgery as yet I don't know how it will feel afterwards,  however I'm glad that you were honest and explained what you did as we're all here for support and to give you advice or help. 

It seems like you may have some trust issues and that's why you had to "test" for yourself and see what happens. But like the others have said,  I would go back on the liquid diet before you do anymore damage. Call your bariatric clinic and tell them what's been going on. And if you're still in disbelief, request an xray for proof.

I wish you all the best in yourWL journey

I'm at TWH too and it does say that you can have sugar free ice cream. Right after surgery though, I was too focused on getting my protein in and felt that it would be a waste to eat SF ice cream. They also say you can have SF pudding. Between the LF cream soups, cottage cheese, protein shakes, and greek yogurt, there wasn't enough time in the day to fit in ice cream nor did I have any interest in it :) 

Thanks. I'm feeling more overwhelmed as I get closer to surgery.  I bought the sf ice cream - so if I need it it'll be there. But like stated   no nutritional content.

Thanks for your help!

I did the same thing. It's still in my freezer. It's normal to feel overwhelmed. If you look back at my posts from just over a month ago you'll see that I was beeeeyond terrified! 

It is included in the list but I wouldn't bother, it has sugar alcohols and most of us don't react very well to them plus it has no nutrition.  They are more focused on us getting the liquids in and some will have to resort to this but it would be my last choice of all the liquids listed that is for sure.  You could make homemade NSA protein ice cream and at least it would have some nutrition.

That is true. Didn't think of that..I'm not very creative when it comes to thinking up meals - new ideas.

I bought the ice cream already but I'll use it as a last resort. What I did was buy everything on the list so it'll be there when needed.

Thanks for your reply! 

So you don't want any "haters", but yet you don't want to follow your surgeons plan? 

I foresee you not making it to goal and having a regain. 

Why would you not want to follow the plan?

You do know that you can very easily bust your staple line because you DO NOT WANT TO FOLLOW THE PLAN.  Yes I did just yell at you.  So when you are bleeding internally and don't make it to the hospital in time do you now what happens?  You die. 

So keep on NOT following the plan and see just how successful you are. 

As others have said you had your nerves cut. You don't feel anything yet. What you have done you really could hurt yourself. I did not feel restriction I questioned my doctor if he did anything in there. I did not eat anything that wasn't on my plan. I was afraid. I was given the gift of having WLS. 

 I felt normal. About two weeks later I felt pain when I drank liquids. My pouch was coming alive. It hurt to drink liquids. I would have a hard time eating. 

Please take what people say seriously. Some people who are here and seen people gain weight back,or have lost their lives not from the surgery from not following what they are supposed to do. Not the surgery itself. Of course everyone will blame the surgery. 

When we make the decision to have surgery. It is a major life change. I pretty much can eat anything right now. I don't. I don't want to be a statistic of weight loss failure. You know you have heard from people when you told them and they may have said oh with the rolling of the eyes saying I know so many people have gained their weight back. It sucks to be around that. 

Please think about what you are doing. Don't test the waters. Measure your food and do what you are supposed to do. 

Don't be a weight loss surgery statistic.