Weight Wise post-op diet more restrictive?
Hi all.
I post mostly on the 20's board and had been asking questions about the strictness of the post-op diet. I eat fairly healthy now (love to cook, make almost all meals at home)...just WAY WAY too much. I realize I will have to make major changes to use to tool to the best of my ability. Still, I am concerned about the whole no carb thing. Previous responders said they do not have to cut out any food groups and were wondering where I was coming from with this strict diet.
So...is Weight Wise more restrictive than other surgeons? I'm sure my food priorities will change after surgery, but I can tell you that right now, pre-op and unhealthy, cutting out carbs does not sound so realistic. I've tried that before. I'm sure a smaller stomach will make a difference but I guess ultimately it comes down to being disciplined and making the healthy decisions. Maybe some of you were in the same boat and can share your experiences.
I post mostly on the 20's board and had been asking questions about the strictness of the post-op diet. I eat fairly healthy now (love to cook, make almost all meals at home)...just WAY WAY too much. I realize I will have to make major changes to use to tool to the best of my ability. Still, I am concerned about the whole no carb thing. Previous responders said they do not have to cut out any food groups and were wondering where I was coming from with this strict diet.
So...is Weight Wise more restrictive than other surgeons? I'm sure my food priorities will change after surgery, but I can tell you that right now, pre-op and unhealthy, cutting out carbs does not sound so realistic. I've tried that before. I'm sure a smaller stomach will make a difference but I guess ultimately it comes down to being disciplined and making the healthy decisions. Maybe some of you were in the same boat and can share your experiences.
The quick answer to your question is yes... weight wise has a stricter diet post op. But weightwise also has one of the highest success rates in the country when it comes to average weight loss after surgery so its a trade off. That being said, there are plenty of people that don't follow what the nutritionists say exactly. For instance, one of Weight Wise's rules is no liquid calories, including milk. Well, I can say I very regularly enjoy a latte from starbucks (which happens to be 190 calories) and I even drink it in front of my nutritionist or at support group. I guess my point of all this is that the rules are what you make of it. Though I will say that there is a direct correlation between how much someone follows the diet and exercise plan given to you and how much weight is lost.
As for the carb thing... I was a HUGE carb eater before I had my sleeve. I would say that rice, pasta, or bread was a main part of at least lunch and dinner everyday for the years before I had surgery. I went on the pre-op diet of no carbs over a year ago and I can honestly say I do not miss them at all! I've ordered food at a restaurant in the time since surgery that happened to come with a side of rice or pasta and I've had one bite of it, decided it tasted kinda like cardboard and went back to my protein. I'm not saying that's going to be the case for everyone, but I will say that as a former carbaholic, the only carbs that bother me post-op are sweets, everything else is totally unappealing, especially bread. That and when you do try to eat it, you get full- QUICK! I would say for me, maybe part of a tortilla is the most carb I can eat with out being stuffed almost immediately.
I hope that helps a little, and I guess my main advise would be try not to think of it as giving up food, just making some changes to the way you eat things. There are hundreds of recipes that are low/no carb that you'll be able to make plus a lot of people are really good at altering their favorite recipes on their own to lessen the number of carbs they're eating.
As for the carb thing... I was a HUGE carb eater before I had my sleeve. I would say that rice, pasta, or bread was a main part of at least lunch and dinner everyday for the years before I had surgery. I went on the pre-op diet of no carbs over a year ago and I can honestly say I do not miss them at all! I've ordered food at a restaurant in the time since surgery that happened to come with a side of rice or pasta and I've had one bite of it, decided it tasted kinda like cardboard and went back to my protein. I'm not saying that's going to be the case for everyone, but I will say that as a former carbaholic, the only carbs that bother me post-op are sweets, everything else is totally unappealing, especially bread. That and when you do try to eat it, you get full- QUICK! I would say for me, maybe part of a tortilla is the most carb I can eat with out being stuffed almost immediately.
I hope that helps a little, and I guess my main advise would be try not to think of it as giving up food, just making some changes to the way you eat things. There are hundreds of recipes that are low/no carb that you'll be able to make plus a lot of people are really good at altering their favorite recipes on their own to lessen the number of carbs they're eating.
On February 19, 2010 at 4:45 AM Pacific Time, Rissa6423 wrote:
The quick answer to your question is yes... weight wise has a stricter diet post op. But weightwise also has one of the highest success rates in the country when it comes to average weight loss after surgery so its a trade off. That being said, there are plenty of people that don't follow what the nutritionists say exactly. For instance, one of Weight Wise's rules is no liquid calories, including milk. Well, I can say I very regularly enjoy a latte from starbucks (which happens to be 190 calories) and I even drink it in front of my nutritionist or at support group. I guess my point of all this is that the rules are what you make of it. Though I will say that there is a direct correlation between how much someone follows the diet and exercise plan given to you and how much weight is lost.As for the carb thing... I was a HUGE carb eater before I had my sleeve. I would say that rice, pasta, or bread was a main part of at least lunch and dinner everyday for the years before I had surgery. I went on the pre-op diet of no carbs over a year ago and I can honestly say I do not miss them at all! I've ordered food at a restaurant in the time since surgery that happened to come with a side of rice or pasta and I've had one bite of it, decided it tasted kinda like cardboard and went back to my protein. I'm not saying that's going to be the case for everyone, but I will say that as a former carbaholic, the only carbs that bother me post-op are sweets, everything else is totally unappealing, especially bread. That and when you do try to eat it, you get full- QUICK! I would say for me, maybe part of a tortilla is the most carb I can eat with out being stuffed almost immediately.
I hope that helps a little, and I guess my main advise would be try not to think of it as giving up food, just making some changes to the way you eat things. There are hundreds of recipes that are low/no carb that you'll be able to make plus a lot of people are really good at altering their favorite recipes on their own to lessen the number of carbs they're eating.
Sorry didn't mean to hijack!
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My Goals:
1) 200lbs ACCOMPLISHED
3) 170lbs
4) Run 5K
"Unneeded food is not any less wasted in a body that doesnt need it, than it is in the trash." ~Brandilynn
"Those that will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." ~William Penn
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You have to expect things of yourself before you can do them. ~Michael Jordan
My Goals:
1) 200lbs ACCOMPLISHED
3) 170lbs
4) Run 5K
"Unneeded food is not any less wasted in a body that doesnt need it, than it is in the trash." ~Brandilynn
"Those that will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." ~William Penn
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I think you will find that all of the successful WLS practices will ask you to eliminate most of your carbs. The carbs that are okay are the whole grain and complex carbs such as beans and peas.
Carbs were my food "drug of choice" for years. I've been off carbs for over 2 months and even prior to surgery I was feeling so much better.
Your tastes are probably going to change, and the things that you love now, you may not even want after surgery.
Try to think in terms of what you are getting, rather than what you are giving up.
Carbs were my food "drug of choice" for years. I've been off carbs for over 2 months and even prior to surgery I was feeling so much better.
Your tastes are probably going to change, and the things that you love now, you may not even want after surgery.
Try to think in terms of what you are getting, rather than what you are giving up.
Everything happens for a reason.
HW 252
I think if you can follow the weight wise plan for at least the first year you will be highly successful. I know many weight wise patients and have yet to find one that is over a year out and has honestly been able to adhere to all of their rules. 3 meals of protien a day and thats it and thats all sounds good in theory but in reality it just doesn't seem to work for everyone. However, if you can follow it you will be very successful. As soon as you start playing with the carbs the weight loss stalls. If it wasn't for exercise I would be stalled completely. As it is my weight loss is very slow now.
190 lbs lost
VSG 07/2008
lower body lift 10/2010
upper body lift 11/2011
On February 19, 2010 at 6:39 AM Pacific Time, Debbie A. wrote:
I think you will find that all of the successful WLS practices will ask you to eliminate most of your carbs. The carbs that are okay are the whole grain and complex carbs such as beans and peas. Carbs were my food "drug of choice" for years. I've been off carbs for over 2 months and even prior to surgery I was feeling so much better.
Your tastes are probably going to change, and the things that you love now, you may not even want after surgery.
Try to think in terms of what you are getting, rather than what you are giving up.
I gave up 'white' carbs (processed white flour products and processed white sugar products) even before surgery this past fall because I was heading toward adult onset diabetes. My doctor said cut the salt (for my then elevated blood pressure) and the processed white flour and sugar products. It was AMAZING how much stuff is empty white carbs!! It was rather easy to do though. Since my youngest is glutten and dairy free. I LOVE my two health food stores! And even Wal-Mart is getting into the glutten free market with offering more items.
I'd advise making sure exercise is part of your daily routine. Just walking in the mornings are night is a HUGE boost to helping your body kick it up a notch and start burning those calories!
Good luck and sending blessing prayers your way sweety!!
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You have to expect things of yourself before you can do them. ~Michael Jordan
My Goals:
1) 200lbs ACCOMPLISHED
3) 170lbs
4) Run 5K
"Unneeded food is not any less wasted in a body that doesnt need it, than it is in the trash." ~Brandilynn
"Those that will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." ~William Penn
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
You have to expect things of yourself before you can do them. ~Michael Jordan
My Goals:
1) 200lbs ACCOMPLISHED
3) 170lbs
4) Run 5K
"Unneeded food is not any less wasted in a body that doesnt need it, than it is in the trash." ~Brandilynn
"Those that will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." ~William Penn
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
Even sweets aren't an issue for me now. I took a bite of a former favorite and it actually tasted too everything. Down the road I'll probably crave something and taste it, but for now, I mostly want the protein so I will have energy every day.
Do try to get off the carbs before surgery, so you'll have already worked through the withdrawal period. I talked to one woman who didn't quit them 'til the day before surgery & she has had a rough time. I went on South Beach, Phase I, three months before surgery & was really very well weaned from the carbs.
Do try to get off the carbs before surgery, so you'll have already worked through the withdrawal period. I talked to one woman who didn't quit them 'til the day before surgery & she has had a rough time. I went on South Beach, Phase I, three months before surgery & was really very well weaned from the carbs.
5'3/4" 56 years young
Heaviest Weight 250; Consult Weight 232; Surgery Weight 211
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The WW postop diet is the bomb!!!! You will be eating such a small amount, you really will not even notice you don't have carbs. As a former Diet Mt. Dew-aholic, I was freaking about the no caffeine no carbonation as well as no carbs, when I went to the first seminar. I thought these people were out of their minds and could not even imagine a life without my "crutches" :) Gosh, I wish I had gone to that seminar sooner! Giving up those three things have been life changing.
What a difference a few months make...I don't even think about making a carb choice anymore, and don't miss them in the least. If I do get a "twinge" for something sweet, a sugar free popsicle does the trick, another life saver has been Lipton Sugar Free Decaf Tea,(don't overdue there are a few carbs), I drink it hot.
I tried a taste of bread at Thanksgiving, and it just wasn't worth it for me, it felt like it swelled up in my little pouch, and I was miserable for about 15 minutes.
You'll do great!!!! Just listen and do what they say!!!!!!!!!
Cathy
"It doesn't matter how strong your opinions are, if you don't use them for positive change, you ARE, indeed, part of the problem"
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