When I asked for advice!
Well yesterday I posted a new topic asking for advice about hair loss and getting vitamins down and this is the reply that I got:
Then this is what I responded:
And this is the response that I got back: From MisterObjective
I think that 1in 100 deaths from surgery is insanity. I am here to support people not WLS and especially not gastric bypass.
I have reserached this thoroughly. I could sit down with you surgeon and kick his ass when it comes to the function of the digestive system. I destroyed one a a radio talk show. He thought I was a diet guru. He did not know that I knew more than him.
You "surgeon" did not explain the digestive prossecc to you because if he had you would not have had this done. You may want to re read the release form and show it to a lawyer who specializes in WLS mal-practice. My best friend, a psychologist , used to evaluate WLS candidates for several bariatrc surgeons. He told me the money these guys were raking in was obscene. He also found out that the patients were not getting the full story from their surgeon.
If you want to shorten your life span I suppose that is your business. If you want to be one of the 400,000 Americans who eat themselves to death I suppose that is your business too but I am a person of good conscience and when I see a wrong I speak up. I am sorry if the truth upsets you. We all make mistakes but when trusting people get led into something through deception I say something because that is how I am.
As a nutritionist I can give you some sound advice about how not to to become nutrient starved. I an sure I have forgotten more about nutrition that most MDs will ever know. If you are happy with your choice and the consequences then let the chips fall where they may. I will suggest that you get a juicer or use a blender to puree raw veggies and drink protein shake and take amino acid pills.
Just wanted to know what everyone else thought about it...... please give your 2 cents.
| Date Sent: | January 19, 2009 - 11:17am |
| From: | MisterObjective Click here to add this user to your friends list |
| Subject: | Call a lawyer |
| Really! see if you can have the WLS undone. The nutrional deficiencies will kill you quicker than being fat. |
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Then this is what I responded:
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| Date Sent: | January 20, 2009 - 11:47am |
| To: | MisterObjective Click here to add this user to your friends list |
| Subject: | RE: Call a lawyer |
| This is a choice that I made.... and now i have to find ways to make it work I have lost 50lbs already and feeling better then I have in a long time.... there are little kinks that have to be worked out ... and who are you to tell people things like that.... this is suppose to be a support group so if you don't support it then you have no right being here..... |
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I think that 1in 100 deaths from surgery is insanity. I am here to support people not WLS and especially not gastric bypass.
I have reserached this thoroughly. I could sit down with you surgeon and kick his ass when it comes to the function of the digestive system. I destroyed one a a radio talk show. He thought I was a diet guru. He did not know that I knew more than him.
You "surgeon" did not explain the digestive prossecc to you because if he had you would not have had this done. You may want to re read the release form and show it to a lawyer who specializes in WLS mal-practice. My best friend, a psychologist , used to evaluate WLS candidates for several bariatrc surgeons. He told me the money these guys were raking in was obscene. He also found out that the patients were not getting the full story from their surgeon.
If you want to shorten your life span I suppose that is your business. If you want to be one of the 400,000 Americans who eat themselves to death I suppose that is your business too but I am a person of good conscience and when I see a wrong I speak up. I am sorry if the truth upsets you. We all make mistakes but when trusting people get led into something through deception I say something because that is how I am.
As a nutritionist I can give you some sound advice about how not to to become nutrient starved. I an sure I have forgotten more about nutrition that most MDs will ever know. If you are happy with your choice and the consequences then let the chips fall where they may. I will suggest that you get a juicer or use a blender to puree raw veggies and drink protein shake and take amino acid pills.
Just wanted to know what everyone else thought about it...... please give your 2 cents.
LAKRISHA
287 / 230 / 160
START/ CURRENT/ SOON TO BE
I say you need to report the emails to OH!!!! he is clearly here for the wrong reasons.....
BUT, I too had diffucilty taking my pills in the beginning. Are you trying to swallow pills or do the chewables. Sometimes the first while its easier to do the chewables. As for the hairloss, the drs warn us before and it happens to almost all of us. I do take a vitamin for it, biotin and I do notice a difference taking it. My mom hasnt had WLS and she has hair loss bad as well she started biotin when I did and she swears that it works!
Hang in there it will get better!!!
BUT, I too had diffucilty taking my pills in the beginning. Are you trying to swallow pills or do the chewables. Sometimes the first while its easier to do the chewables. As for the hairloss, the drs warn us before and it happens to almost all of us. I do take a vitamin for it, biotin and I do notice a difference taking it. My mom hasnt had WLS and she has hair loss bad as well she started biotin when I did and she swears that it works!
Hang in there it will get better!!!
Wow! I think these boards are NOT the place to flame or critize anyone for anything. It's a support forum and if we don't like the topic or what was said just ignore, move on and not respond. I don't agree with everything I read either but it's sure not my place to flame anyone. We are ALL here for support and if we can't offer that then I feel they should get off the forum! Just my opinion for what it's worth and that and a $1 might buy you a cup of coffee somewhere cheap!!
I have had severe hair loss issues as well after WLS. Mine started 4 months out and stopped about 8 months out. My hair isn't falling out anymore but is far from healthy. It is dry, brittle and I had curly hair before and now it is straight as a board. I use good products, take my vitamins etc as my surgeon told me to do, take biotin and use lots and lots of conditioner. It is better but has a ways to go. I can see new growth coming in and it will be fine in time. I have never seen a bald lady at our support groups so I'm so hoping this will resolve itself soon. Hang in there. It just takes time and patience. We have discussed this issue many times on our forum. You are welcome here!! Good luck.
I have had severe hair loss issues as well after WLS. Mine started 4 months out and stopped about 8 months out. My hair isn't falling out anymore but is far from healthy. It is dry, brittle and I had curly hair before and now it is straight as a board. I use good products, take my vitamins etc as my surgeon told me to do, take biotin and use lots and lots of conditioner. It is better but has a ways to go. I can see new growth coming in and it will be fine in time. I have never seen a bald lady at our support groups so I'm so hoping this will resolve itself soon. Hang in there. It just takes time and patience. We have discussed this issue many times on our forum. You are welcome here!! Good luck.
This is the ride of my life.....what an amazing tool I now have!!!
WOW Talk about ****y!! This guy is a trip. Take comfort in the fact that he's probably a 37 year old dork who lives in his momma's basement and wears startrek underware, and gets a kick out of trolling the internet looking for people to upset....If he'd done ANY research at all he'd know that pretty much everything he spouted as 'fact" about WLS was total crap. His first statement "THe nutritional deficiencies will kill you quicker than being fat" was a complete condradiction to what I read just yesterday http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/a/gastric_ bypass.htm
It's a really intresting article...and it blows this guy right out of the water... For a "Nutritionist" he sure does have alot of spelling and syntax errors in his message and the part about "I an sure I have forgotten more about nutrition that most MD's will ever know." I'm just wondering who he's trying to convince....you or himself???
Well said, DeWitney!
There are some people we call trolls on OH. Their only objective is to hurt, damage and make people feel insecure. Mister Objective is a troll and should be treated as such. Consider the source and move on.
I too have had hair loss that is really only noticeable by me so I'm lucky. I do take Biotin and have been using Nioxin shampoo and conditioner. I'm not sure any of it helps but I wanted to know that I was doing something! And I will say that my hair is growing faster than ever. Oh, and I did switch from Biotin to Healthy Skin, Hair & Nails but it's pretty much the same thing.
Don't let someone else ruin you day. He simply doesn't deserve that power. Let karma take care of him.
In the meantime, come here for support! We are a troll free zone!
There are some people we call trolls on OH. Their only objective is to hurt, damage and make people feel insecure. Mister Objective is a troll and should be treated as such. Consider the source and move on.
I too have had hair loss that is really only noticeable by me so I'm lucky. I do take Biotin and have been using Nioxin shampoo and conditioner. I'm not sure any of it helps but I wanted to know that I was doing something! And I will say that my hair is growing faster than ever. Oh, and I did switch from Biotin to Healthy Skin, Hair & Nails but it's pretty much the same thing.
Don't let someone else ruin you day. He simply doesn't deserve that power. Let karma take care of him.
In the meantime, come here for support! We are a troll free zone!
I just checked out Mister Objective's profile. There is nothing there and they just joined OH on 1/18/09. Definitely joined up just to cause trouble. He's probably trying to sell something. There uses to be a guy online who was a vitamin salesman. He responded to every single post that had anything even remotely to do with supplements and spouted off about his brand of vitamins. He has been removed from the boards by OH. Maybe you should report Mister Objective to OH - he obviously needs another hobby!
It is ok .... I stood up and told him/her how I felt.... It didn't hurt me in anyway I just wanted to let everyone else know how he/she approuched me about my problem and to let his name be known.... I know that there are a lot and is going to be a lot of people like that in this world that I am going to have to face...... THIS IS MY CHOICE AND NOW THAT I AM A LOSER I FEEL AWSOME!
LAKRISHA
287 / 230 / 160
START/ CURRENT/ SOON TO BE
I hope you blocked him from contacting you anymore!
It causes fear to be approached by something like this....Ask people who have had this surgery years ago and they all will tell you that they would do it all again...Facts out weigh what this person has suggested. So what if the doctors make a buck off us....He takes your life in his hands...he deserves a buck or two....
I'm so sorry you got blasted! It sucks to have someone flame you, when you haven't done a thing!
Keep your chin up sweetie! You are doing great!!!! Don't let anyone cause doubt in anything you have decided. You did what was best for you!
I had to add this....I used to go into a chat room on AOL that was a food chat. Chefs would come in and give great recipes...We always had people coming in there that would say things like "Is food all you fat people think about!" They would call us all fatties and so on....Not everyone who cooks or goes to food rooms are fat!! These people thought it was great fun! It just showed how ignorant they were....We spent alot of time blocking these idiots! Some kids love to just play on the computer when Mama isn't home!
It causes fear to be approached by something like this....Ask people who have had this surgery years ago and they all will tell you that they would do it all again...Facts out weigh what this person has suggested. So what if the doctors make a buck off us....He takes your life in his hands...he deserves a buck or two....
I'm so sorry you got blasted! It sucks to have someone flame you, when you haven't done a thing!
Keep your chin up sweetie! You are doing great!!!! Don't let anyone cause doubt in anything you have decided. You did what was best for you!
I had to add this....I used to go into a chat room on AOL that was a food chat. Chefs would come in and give great recipes...We always had people coming in there that would say things like "Is food all you fat people think about!" They would call us all fatties and so on....Not everyone who cooks or goes to food rooms are fat!! These people thought it was great fun! It just showed how ignorant they were....We spent alot of time blocking these idiots! Some kids love to just play on the computer when Mama isn't home!
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