Getting to goal??? John's bone mass comments

I responded to MamaHen's post earlier regarding her "goal" weight that her doctor has set for her.  I had remembered a post that Jon posted sometime ago and found it.  I just wanted to copy it...hope you don't mind John....regarding the goal weight thing.  It is very interesting.

Fleemore

 Post Date 8/20/08 7:32 am
Topic: RE: Same size as my sis, but I weigh more

One of the things I've been reading and discussing with my PCP is that when we're heavy for so many years, sometimes our bones will become more dense to be able to support our body mass.  Then, when we lose weight, we still have increased bone density, which adds pounds, but doesn't affect body shape/size.  Was your sister ever heavy or has she always been the same dainty size 8 that you both are now?   That might be an answer....

The reason I've been discussing with my PCP is that he thinks it might not be realistic for me to use the "ideal" weights from a standard BMI chart because I might never be able to get there after being obese for almost 30 years.

John

The bone mass is most likely someone who has had WLS and weighs 200 pounds won't look that heavy???  Sounds logical to me!!!


 

I was reading this and I thought about the conversation my sister and I had about 2 weeks ago. She told me that she was 222 pounds and has not been that big in over 35 years. I listened to her and thought should I tell her how much I am weighing....then she said she in 20/22. I  felt the devil on my shoulder and I said well sis I am 219 and I am wearing a 18....silence. The point being is this she lost her weight before she was 18. And I lost mine before I turned 43. I dont think bone density can be used between sis and bro cause men are prone to be haevier then men. Case in point is my sister.
When I saw her back in May she didnt "look" to be what I would consider huge just a little fluffy. And she said she weighed 190 at that time. For us, we have been overweight and we cannot perceive ourselves as being thin. To find joy and to realize we are smaller it is important to take pics to look in full length mirrors and strut our stuff....
thanks for this post

You are so right on Pattye about taking pictures.  I have my DH take pictures at least once a month.  I was having a really hard time "with my head" and knowing that I had lost weight....  I had those pictures in my digital camera but had not developed any.  I took them and had them printed and laid them all out and oh my gosh.  That so helped my head but....I still see that 408 pound woman when I look in the mirror even now.  Maybe my brain will catch up some time.  I KNOW I am smaller because of the clothes but as we say over and over...the surgery was on our stomaches and not our brains!!!

time for a pattye intervention...lol
go look in a full length mirror and view yourself from all around. and then notice the person you are looking at is you...the same person that was 408 pounds but now less. that same woman is you just smaller. I take a pair of my older pants and hold them up to my new ones and I see the size differences....
since I was 478 which I can not NOW believe that I was that big I see the difference when I sit down when I walk in front of store windows when I try on clothes and so much more. I am getting the JOY back. cause I let it slip away again....

Thanks Pattye...I can always count on you to say something to make me go into reality!  It is awesome to get the JOY in life back that was lost for so long.  I am so proud of all of us!!!!  I'll take a long look in that mirror when I get home this afternoon too.  Thanks!

Is there not a song that goes like that.....lol...i went and bought a full length mirror just to see me..i like all that I see except my cottage cheese legs....they need help

My son always called that Hail Damaged legs....

Both of my sisters are very small framed. Their wrists are so small, yet both have gotten heavy over the past 5 years, where I have just stayed the same. Their normal weight growing up was 105 to 110. My normal growing up was 120 to 130. Keep in mind that was teen years...Still today though they are real heavy, their wrists are still so petite. Now is it true what they say about bone structure? Does a small wrist mean smaller structure or is this all just heresay? 
My sister doesn't think she is that big, but she weighs more than I do now....She can't see herself as big where many of you can't see yourself small...I think the pictures are a great idea...my trouble is I usually delete those of the camera before anyone sees them!!
I guess I will have to break down and keep a few to show my brain what my body is doing once I get this surgery!!
Girls, I do know one thing! You are looking great on here! Your avitars show it!
It has been a long road for me....I changed my avitar to a rose flower because I just kept seeing the same old chubby face and it was hard to look at. No change is tough! BUT....it's going to change!!

You are so right sister!  You are going to see change soon.  I MUST take pictures.  You need to have your daughter take a before picture and then regular pictures as you go down.  It is good for the brain to feed on and smile at!  I don't know about small structures but I do and have always had very small hands, wrists and ankles.....that was all that was small and still is even smaller.

I honestly think being overweight reaches a point where you feel paralized in so many ways....
at least I do.  Even being on here is a fear in many aspects. It opens you up to support or rejection....even the smallest thing can become rejection. I know that had I not had a welcome committe on here, I may have left because of those fears. I just feel it is the first step to begin posting and if no body responds.....It scares you. You feel as if you can come here and people understand how you feel but the fears of rejection are still there....It is for sure a mind game...I hope the body change will change the fears too.....We shall see..


I don't even know what my goal is....I mean I gave the nut a desired weight, but I don't know if that is logical or not.... I mean she said it was a reasonable goal. I want to weigh about 135 to 140. So that is 55lbs away....My most important goal is to stop this out of control diabetes....I am so praying it works on that....If I can lose this weight and it not come back....maybe the diabetes will do the same. I hope the sleeve works on the diabetes like the RNU does. I haven't seen to many stats on that here.