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Hi - this is Ruth - I led the support group on Thursday evening. I'm glad you are posting - hang in there! The first few weeks of eating are a learning lesson - the tummy holds all the cards right now and sometimes it is happy and sometimes it isn't. BUT the tummy rules the roost right now.
Early on my taste buds were different, my smell sense was really different. We have always eaten what looked and smelled good - sometimes that was a bad thing too. You are going to have to be patient and keep trying. In the process - be sure to use the jello and popsicles if you aren't getting your liquids but pull away from depending on them.
If you liked certain "flavors" before - i.e. hot sauce, salsa, ketchup...sometimes you may be able to use a touch of these (sparingly for flavor until you find out if tummy likes it) just to give you a flavor you may recognize. I liked cottage cheese but only with barbeque sauce for flavor - doesn't sound very good - but it helped me.
Hang in there - it does get better I promise you!! Remember your body is having to relearn what to DO with the food too - so the bathroom trips are going to be a little confusing for a while as well.
We are here for you!!! There are a bunch of us that have MADE IT THROUGH - you can too Ms. Whiner. (your term right?) LAUGH GIRL!
Ruth
350/326/173current/159goal
Certified OH Support Group Leader
COURAGE IS NOT THE ABSENCE OF FEAR BUT RATHER
THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE IN THE PRESENCE OF FEAR.
I have a question, maybe a dumb one, but why does it seem the senses change somewhat after having bariatric surgery? I must admit I have been paying attention to all of you who have had the RNY surgery and have almost been swayed from my lap band decision. But, for some reason it almost makes me feel weird thinking about my insides being rearranged and my stomach just sitting off by itself stapled shut. I don't know why this bothers me. Or I would probably opt for the RNY. You guys seem to be doing really well on it.
Does having the RNY seem to make it a better hunger control?
Sorry for all the questions, but I am just curious. :)
Paulette
I wish I had a way to address the changes in the senses after surgery - I don't think anyone has studied it or have any explanation for it. However, after working with patients at WW and beyond for over three years, I have heard the same things time after time.
I have "heard" it may have some affect on the vagus nerve somehow - don't know how it could be - maybe some of the hormone changes - but within hours of my surgery (not enough time for hormonal changes) my sense of smell was heightened exponentially!! I didn't like ANY odors, good or bad! I have heard some patients say they couldn't stand being near their partners because they "smelled" all of a sudden.
Tastes change too - hormonal? Maybe as well. I tend to think it is more the "change" in diet also changes our tastes. I cannot and have not ever been able to stomach protein drinks of any type - tried most of them - hate them! I can do protein bars - maybe because the protein smell is masked - wait that is smell again too! I eat things I hated before surgery - lots of fresh fish lots of veggies (yada yada). But then that is what I am supposed to be eating - so no harm no foul!
As far as the "rearrangement" of the stomach - I think the only time I have ever even thought about it was when I was in the ER (not WW unfortunately) because I had a gastric bleed. During that whole thing I worried that the bleed may be in my "other" stomach and what would they have to reverse if that was the case. It worked out it wasn't - so no issue. But I have heard that happens but statistics are really low.
I LOVE MY RNY - it has served me well for getting close to three years - minus 200 lbs. At the time I made my decision - WW was only doing RNY and Lap Band - so the choice was easy - I was pre-diabetic and a sweet eater - decision made. But I know several Lap Band patients who LOVE the band, and many Sleeve patients that LOVE their sleeves.
Hunger control - THAT is an oxymoron!! They operate on our stomachs - not our heads. When they can put those two together think about how many skinny people will be wandering around! It is ALWAYS a fight! I will always have to think about what choices I make in eating. That is a life long quest. However, with the tool of your surgery comes a bevy of information to help you make the changes necessary to make better choices. There is the key to any successfull weight loss story - life long changes to make better choices.
If I get there - I'll bottle it and sell it on eBay!!
Questions are GOOOOOOOOD!!! Don't worry about asking them - that's what we are all here for!
Ruth
350/326/173current/159goal
Certified OH Support Group Leader
COURAGE IS NOT THE ABSENCE OF FEAR BUT RATHER
THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE IN THE PRESENCE OF FEAR.
on 12/19/08 7:37 am - The beautiful, US Virgin Islands......, XX
might I suggest Flax-z-snax? Its very different than most things you cannot have....it's tasty like oatmeal...it's good for you...with nearly no carbs, super high in fiber...add some frit that is pureed and splash of cream and 2 packets of splenda and you've got heaven....seriously and stuff....
I'm also not much of a beans/cottage cheese/ mushed up kinda stuff and egg person, so I had to adapt quickly. I have more suggestions, so if you like some different things that you're allowed to have that are creative, feel free to PM me...
T.
on 12/19/08 7:41 am
It took me a good six months to realize that "no fun" really doesn't matter any more. It's about finding something you can swallow and keep down and nourish your body with. On good days, food is still fun and I enjoy it, but on bad days, I choke down what I need to keep on going. One of the other things I finally figured out was, not eating because I dont "like" what I'm eating isn't a good option-you just get run down and worse problems develop.
There is a direct correlation between the number of tasteless eggs you skip and the amount of time it takes you to give in to those mashed potatoes and ice cream.
A little sooner than that I realize I was satisfied with quantity my tummy allowed-it was only my head freaking out entirely....."You've got to be kidding, you're DONE?" and nothing can prepare you for the strength of that emotion-I called it "band rage" (I was banded) because I was just so pissed OFF that I couldn't eat. I think that is something that hits us all, and it does pass. It passes quicker if you can figure out what you are feeling, what non caloric thing would make you feel better (for me it's herbal tea and shopping)-but figuring out all those feelings when you are in the middle of a funky period is a lot to ask, so at the very least, be kind to yourself until you figure it out.
One thing you write "not a cool diet for an adult" tells me you are feeling frustrated at the lack of control-realize that the tiny tummy IS in charge (but you chose for it to be so it's not really the boss of you, only because you let it!)
I have not had this surgery yet. I know it will be hard, but I think that it will be like most very difficult things in life. Each little step will make it better....The first time you step on the scale and see the numbers drop....Each time you look in the mirror, you will see a different you, each compliment will build your confidence. You will then ask...Why didn't I do this sooner. You will learn to love the new you, just like I learned to love my little son. That was 42 years ago....
You can do this....You will get through it and will never regret a day of it. Go to this website and she has tons of ideas to make the meals and snacks easier and add variety to your diet. Read these posts and you will also get ideas. Come and vent to us, whenever needed. You are in the right place...Relax and be ready for the next step on this wonderful journey.
theworldaccordingtoeggface
Hugs
Sherry