need help

linda S.
on 10/24/08 8:39 am - tulsa, OK
I have been trying to get approved for wls for 3 years are more.   It' seems like something is always stopping me from obtaining my goal.. 

I was recently told my the surgeon office, that the cardiologist, did not approve me for the surgery, due to the fact that I take coumadin (an anti couglant tht prevents blood clots from forming).  I know that i'm not the only person that has or waiting to have the gastric that takes this medicine. 

The nurse called me back and referred me to another heart specialist.  You are required to pass the ekg and echo-gram and I passed them both.  So if anyone has any advice for me.  I will appreciate your comments.

Thanks, desperately seeking advice.
Linda
(deactivated member)
on 10/24/08 9:24 am - The beautiful, US Virgin Islands......, XX


Linda,

most everyone will not like my answer, but it it a real world answer to help you get your approval.  Get a new primary care provider who knows NOTHING of anything you're taking or ailments, then let him know you're thinking about Weightloss surgery but you wanted a physical, then let him or her give you their approval, and when the insurance company sugests you go to the next step, go to a completely different doctor for the heart specialist and all of the other docs you want to see to get the approval.....HOWEVER....doing this means YOU are risking YOUR health and I could not condone doing this but it is a solution to your problem and I have heard of others doing the same thing.  So go into this as informed as you can and weigh your risks carefully. If you've passed the required tests, you can get the results of that test and give them to your surgeon as proof you've completed those requirements successfully and you won't be out of pocket those expenses....

OR you could go to Mexico...party your hind-end off for a few days....maybe even find some "vacation love" and then go into surgery by a doctor *****ally doesn't require what they require in the States....  but then again....it's your life....  I'll not judge you either way...  after all, i don't walk in your shoes and hey, everyone has to make difficult choices to be happy....  I know I made them until i was happy and it got me everything I could want and more...

See ya....  oh crud... I forgot my disclosure statement ("I'm not a doctor, I just play one in bed"), there you go...now you know...

T.
linda S.
on 10/24/08 10:17 am - tulsa, OK
Thanks, for your response, that exactly what the cardiologist nurse told me.  She said, that was not a good of reason to deny me.  She suggested that I see another doctor and she almost certain that he will approve me..  I trying to put all my ducks in a row,  and I know that this is a big risk, but lifes a risk.. Were at risk everyday with going to and fro from work to home, driving, flying and socializing,  The risk of weight loss surgery for me, is worth the risk and more.  I have to do this not to just look better, but its for my life and i want it back. 

I also want to be able to play miss doctor in bed.. and be happy and well doing it... (LOL)..
Kim J.
on 10/24/08 9:33 am - Claremore, OK
I'm sorry I don't know much but I do know they have you go through these tests to make sure you are healthy enough to survive the surgery and life after the surgery.  Have you talked with your cardio to find out why he won't approve you? If you know other people who have had the surgery and are on coumadin talk to them and find out how they did.  Heck, go to their cardiologist and see what they say!  I would hate for you to do something detrimental to your health.  I hope you can get approved as much as you do but I would want you to be healthy in the process!  Be safe!  I'm not judging you or trying to be ugly, I KNOW how you can want this so badly, because I do too.  I just hope you will be safe!  Thats most important! 

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, "I used everything you gave me." Erma Bombeck
  
19 lbs lost before surgery
9/3/09  Full TT, MR, BL, BA, Arm Reduction and Lipo 10-12 lbs skin/fat removed

linda S.
on 10/24/08 10:27 am - tulsa, OK
That exactly why I posted the message, trying to find people that have had difficulties similiar to mine, or if they of someone who has had similiar problems.  I will be visiting another dr and doing everything in my power to have this surgery.  Thanks, for answering me, I appreciate the feed back.
(deactivated member)
on 10/24/08 11:35 am

So, did the second heart specialist approve you or was there another problem?  If two cardiologists are saying no, then perhaps you need to listen to what they are saying rather than just wanting what you want.  Remember, the goal is health, not just weight loss, and if there is something getting in the way of your surgery, address it, then have the surgery.

Going to Mexico and with holding information about what you are taking (in this case coumadin) would likely mean that you'd bleed to death and the poor Mexican docs would get a bad rap for something that was your fault.  I hope Cowboy was just being a smart aleck, but in case he wasn't-that's a really a$$-hat thing to suggest. 

linda S.
on 10/24/08 12:42 pm - tulsa, OK
No.  I havent seen the 2nd cardiologist yet.  I think Cowboy was just being funny.
(deactivated member)
on 10/24/08 11:45 am - The beautiful, US Virgin Islands......, XX
hey now, i would notify the mexi-doctors about eveything since they really wouldn't care as long as the money was in hand...lol....  The American docs...well they're a bit different! hehe....

as for me....I'm lucky that I was healthy as a horse...  I'm highly fortunate that I haven't felt better than I do now and that my bloodpressure remains 112 over 67.....and i'm running about 10 miles per week with 112 pounds less on my stealthy frame...although i still don't recognize the super handsome man in the mirror....

wink, wink..

T.
(deactivated member)
on 10/24/08 1:47 pm

Cowboy-do you really think, in you heart of hearts, the American doctors CARE more than the Mexican doctors, or could it be they are just more likely to be sued over here?  It all comes down to the dollar, else they'd be giving the surgery away for free.

I don't think you are an A$$ hat (or naive either.....LOL)....but I just wanted to point out I said it was an A$$ hat thing to say-not that YOU were an A$$ hat-but I do like using that term a lot-so thanks for letting me get it out of my system.       

(deactivated member)
on 10/24/08 1:58 pm - The beautiful, US Virgin Islands......, XX
You have no idea how I am laughing at the term...a$$ hat...OMG...I've never heard of it but I think that I must now borrow that term.....for a variety of parties and stuff....and hey, debra, you already know that if I've given you satisfaction in any way...even in letting you use aterm effectively, that I can count that as making sure that I satisfied you..... THAT is the important thing...since most males forget how to satisfy a woman....at least you still have me....hehe! 

T.
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