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Topic: RE: Navigating the WLS program office
My first WLS Seminar I ever went to was with Dr. Myers last year in June. I was very impressed with him and made the decsion to have him as my surgeon. Where it went bad was when I sat down with their financial/insurance counselor, it gave me the feeling I was trying to buy a car. While I had
"great insurance" for the cost of the add on fees I could have flown down to Mexico and had the surgery and still been even. I put the decision on hold and went to a Cleveland Clinic Seminar and was impressed by how everything is contained in one center, NUT's, Psych, regular MD's and the surgeons, all in the same building within 300 feet of each other. And most importantly no addon fees.
I have nothing against Dr. Myers, he was my first choice and he has a history of great results. It wasn't the money at all, I was prepared to cash pay if insurance didn't cover it, to me it was the principle.
"great insurance" for the cost of the add on fees I could have flown down to Mexico and had the surgery and still been even. I put the decision on hold and went to a Cleveland Clinic Seminar and was impressed by how everything is contained in one center, NUT's, Psych, regular MD's and the surgeons, all in the same building within 300 feet of each other. And most importantly no addon fees.
I have nothing against Dr. Myers, he was my first choice and he has a history of great results. It wasn't the money at all, I was prepared to cash pay if insurance didn't cover it, to me it was the principle.
Topic: RE: Navigating the WLS program office
Naw, I am not on the defensive, just wanted to make sure you and other readers understand. It isn't Riverside that doesn't include Mike, it is insurance that won't cover his services. Must just be for the bariatric surgery though, because his services were covered when they had to take out my gallbladder. I understand what you mean about not supporting the ministries, I don't either, I buy my vits elsewhere as I prefer to support US based charities.
We are all in the same boat here, no room for judging each other's choices, we choose what works for ourselves and there is no on perfect program for all.
BTW, love the picture of the saddle in the avatar! I am a horse person as well.
We are all in the same boat here, no room for judging each other's choices, we choose what works for ourselves and there is no on perfect program for all.
BTW, love the picture of the saddle in the avatar! I am a horse person as well.
Topic: RE: Navigating the WLS program office
Hi sfmini,
Please, I don't want to put you on the defensive about Riverside. Frankly, If I had the money, it would be my first choice. I still would look at the costs ctitically, though. It;s just my training, I guess.
Here's where I am coming from. I guess for me (with limited finds as I am no longer working) I don't feel obligated to pay that much out of pocket. My psych eval is paid for by my insurance, and I can find better deals on the vits. and other presurgery items. I support other ministries, so I can't afford this one as well.
I really don't understand why Riverside would not include the cost of this outstanding OR especially if he is vital to the surgery. This is a big red flag for me.
I know the out of pocket money is a big motivator-believe me, I have enough of a co-pay to elicit that "I have got alot invested in this" feeling!
Take good care!
Nanner
Please, I don't want to put you on the defensive about Riverside. Frankly, If I had the money, it would be my first choice. I still would look at the costs ctitically, though. It;s just my training, I guess.
Here's where I am coming from. I guess for me (with limited finds as I am no longer working) I don't feel obligated to pay that much out of pocket. My psych eval is paid for by my insurance, and I can find better deals on the vits. and other presurgery items. I support other ministries, so I can't afford this one as well.
I really don't understand why Riverside would not include the cost of this outstanding OR especially if he is vital to the surgery. This is a big red flag for me.
I know the out of pocket money is a big motivator-believe me, I have enough of a co-pay to elicit that "I have got alot invested in this" feeling!
Take good care!
Nanner
Topic: RE: Navigating the WLS program office
You are paying for Mike to be there because insurance won't cover it and he is one of the best and assists Dr Myers in every surgery. Makes it much safer since they have worked with each other for years. Plus, Mike stays involved with your after care as well. Some of the money goes for the psych consult, can't say I was that happy about that part, but I believe you can opt to go elsewhere if you wi**** was convenient though to be able to have all the testing done in one day and not being aware of other psych options, I did it. As for the products, yes you do have to buy the pre-op diet as the purpose of that is to shrink your liver to make surgery safer. After surgery and the liquid diet(provided by them), you can buy whatever wherever you wish as I have done. If you do buy your vits from them afterwards, the profits go to a hospital in Africa where he volunteers his time each year. He blogged about his time there, trust me, it is a very worthy cause.
Another thing about the money out of pocket is that the thought is that it will be more successful if you have invested your own money into the surgery and you have a financial stake in it. After all, the surgery is only a tool that is to be used properly, but can also be mis-used and thus a failure.
Another thing about the money out of pocket is that the thought is that it will be more successful if you have invested your own money into the surgery and you have a financial stake in it. After all, the surgery is only a tool that is to be used properly, but can also be mis-used and thus a failure.
Topic: RE: Navigating the WLS program office
Hi sfmini,
A little confused here.
I too was told that I had to purchadse their stuff. They alsu have a very steep program fee $3200.00? Just seems like a lot of extra fees that should be included in 20k surgery. When was the last time you paid put pf pocket for the service of an OR nurse? They did offer 300.00 off as I have my own gym.
I thought their program sounded great and very personable. I have a neighbor who has had a great experience and she is 2 years out. I just cant pay those extra fees (in good conscience) that just seems like a mony maker for the doc who already receives a salary for offering surgical services.
Nanner
A little confused here.
I too was told that I had to purchadse their stuff. They alsu have a very steep program fee $3200.00? Just seems like a lot of extra fees that should be included in 20k surgery. When was the last time you paid put pf pocket for the service of an OR nurse? They did offer 300.00 off as I have my own gym.
I thought their program sounded great and very personable. I have a neighbor who has had a great experience and she is 2 years out. I just cant pay those extra fees (in good conscience) that just seems like a mony maker for the doc who already receives a salary for offering surgical services.
Nanner
Topic: RE: Navigating the WLS program office
The purchase of suppliments from Dr Myers is optional, you can buy them anywhere. You are given the first bottle of vitamins to start, but he will also give you a script for prenatals. The extra program fee goes towards a 3 month membership at the exercise facility there along with 8 personal trainer sessions so it is money well spent. Also covers the lifetime access to the support group.
Was going to ask you who you had a problem with, but since it isn't his staff, can't help you there. I have never had trouble getting info from them, and all of his patients are given his personal cell phone number which he does answer immediately.
Was going to ask you who you had a problem with, but since it isn't his staff, can't help you there. I have never had trouble getting info from them, and all of his patients are given his personal cell phone number which he does answer immediately.
Topic: RE: Navigating the WLS program office
Soulds like are in the same boat here! It is very frustrating.
I am considering writing the hospital director, or at least talking with an ombudsman.
We should keep track of each other's journey....
Nanner
I am considering writing the hospital director, or at least talking with an ombudsman.
We should keep track of each other's journey....
Nanner
Topic: RE: Navigating the WLS program office
I am trying to grt rid of Dr. Meyers name on my posts. I am not going through their program. I looked through all the settings and cannot find how I got this on my posts in the first place.
They have sooo many extra required costs, and I question the ethics of docs offices selling particular supplements that you have to take....hmmmmmm.
Much thanks!
They have sooo many extra required costs, and I question the ethics of docs offices selling particular supplements that you have to take....hmmmmmm.
Much thanks!
Topic: RE: Support Group in Columbus??
Hi Laura,
Welcome to our support group. I hope you are having a good experience -- have you started BLAST yet? If not, you'll get lots and lots of good infomation there too. I plan to make it to the Apr. 6 meeting. See you there! Marise
Welcome to our support group. I hope you are having a good experience -- have you started BLAST yet? If not, you'll get lots and lots of good infomation there too. I plan to make it to the Apr. 6 meeting. See you there! Marise
Topic: RE: Navigating the WLS program office
Meg's right about the Nutritionists. They have heard it all and helped people thru it. Keeping your NUT's number handy is a wise thing to do.
