anybody have trouble with MEDICARE paying for your sleeve?

emmakinnison
on 4/29/08 6:35 am - northwood, OH
hey i was suppose to have my surgery may 6 at cleveland clinic. anybody having trouble with MEDICARE paying for the sleeve? debra cash from the financial dept says they are getting claims denied from medicare for patients that have had it donE! email : [email protected] thanks em
sunshineangel_1977
on 4/29/08 1:06 pm - sabina, OH
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but...medicare does not cover a sleeve...they only cover open and lap RnY,  open and lap Duodenal Swithch and lap adjustable banding (lap-band, realize band etc...). They specifically say gastric sleeve, will not be covered....

The evidence is not adequate to conclude that the following bariatric surgery procedures are reasonable and necessary; therefore, the following are non-covered for all Medicare beneficiaries:

  1. open vertical banded gastroplasty;
  2. laparoscopic vertical banded gastroplasty;
  3. open sleeve gastrectomy;
  4. laparoscopic sleeve gastrectomy; and
  5. open adjustable gastric banding

this information can be found at: http://www.cms.hhs.gov/mcd/viewdecisionmemo.asp?from2=viewde cisionmemo.asp&id=160& The complete decsion is as follows.

Decision Memo for Bariatric Surgery for the Treatment of Morbid Obesity (CAG-00250R)

Decision Summary

The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) has determined that the evidence is adequate to conclude that open and laparoscopic Roux-en-Y gastric bypass (RYGBP), laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding (LAGB), and open and laparoscopic biliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch (BPD/DS), are reasonable and necessary for Medicare beneficiaries who have a body-mass index (BMI) > 35, have at least one co-morbidity related to obesity, and have been previously unsuccessful with medical treatment for obesity.

CMS has determined that covered bariatric surgery procedures are reasonable and necessary only when performed at facilities that are: (1) certified by the American College of Surgeons (ACS) as a Level 1 Bariatric Surgery Center (program standards and requirements in effect on February 15, 2006); or (2) certified by the American Society for Bariatric Surgery as a Bariatric Surgery Center of Excellence (BSCOE) (program standards and requirements in effect on February 15, 2006).

A list of approved facilities and their approval dates will be listed and maintained on the CMS Coverage Web site at  www.cms.hhs.gov/center/coverage.asp,and will be published in the Federal Register.

The evidence is not adequate to conclude that the following bariatric surgery procedures are reasonable and necessary; therefore, the following are non-covered for all Medicare beneficiaries:

  1. open vertical banded gastroplasty;
  2. laparoscopic vertical banded gastroplasty;
  3. open sleeve gastrectomy;
  4. laparoscopic sleeve gastrectomy; and
  5. open adjustable gastric banding.

The two non-coverage determinations in the National Coverage Determination Manual (NCDM) remain unchanged - Gastric Balloon (NCDM Section 100.11) and Intestinal Bypass (NCDM Section 100.8).

Modification of the current policy on obesity, found in section 40.5 of the NCDM, will include a reference to the covered surgical procedures and will merge the obesity policy with the final bariatric surgery policy. The modified obesity policy will read as follows (emphasis added to the new language within the policy):

Obesity may be caused by medical conditions such as hypothyroidism, Cushing's disease, and hypothalamic lesions or can aggravate a number of cardiac and respiratory diseases as well as diabetes and hypertension. Certain designated surgical services for the treatment of obesity are covered for Medicare beneficiaries who have a BMI > 35, have at least one co-morbidity related to obesity and have been previously unsuccessful with the medical treatment of obesity.

Treatments for obesity alone remain non-covered

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sunshineangel_1977
on 4/29/08 1:19 pm - sabina, OH
I'm surprised they sched. you for a sleeve surgery knowing you wanted a sleeve and had medicare...my surgeon said in the informational meeting if you have medicare you can not get the sleeve because it is not a covered procedure.  You will be responsible for 100% of the surgery cost. If i were you i would discuss it with the quickness with my surgeon and reschedule for a different surgery if you dont want to get stuck with a $12,000.00 or more bill.  I dont understand how a billing office that has to be approved with medicare doesn't know that it is not covered.  Get out quick!!!  research and decide on another surgery or you may want to finance it if your heart is set on haveing a sleeve.  but its coming quick (surgery date).  You can confirm what i am saying by calling medicare.  I also have medicare and they are great at paying and you don't have to have all the diet history, and your file can be incomplete as long as you have a bmi over 35 and co-morbidy or bmi over 40 and no co-morbidy.    hope this and the post above helps you... I feel for you and again I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 4/29/08 8:38 pm - OH
Whatever you do, do NOT go ahead with the surgery just because someone at the surgeon's office says you can petition Medicare to cover it.  An ex-coworker's wife did that and they got stuck paying the entire surgical bill (over $20,000) because Medicare said that by policy it is not covered for any reason since there are otehr surgeries that ARE covered. Lora

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calpernia
on 4/30/08 3:50 am - Medina, OH
This is confusing because my best friend - who is on disability - just had a sleeve done on March 25 by Dr. Schauer and it was totally covered.  I really don't know anything about the system, but I do know that he had no problem getting OK'd for surgery.  Good luck Cal
emmakinnison
on 4/30/08 8:45 am - northwood, OH
i have medicare primary medicaid secondary/ im suppose to have the sleeve done. did you have friend have the sleeve or the rny? my email is [email protected] thanks for any info im stressed out
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