What I ate today - How did you do?

LindaM
on 1/3/06 8:05 am - Ravena, NY
Today is Jan. 3. and I need to post my food items. I miss MsMoozy's post. Hey Deb when will you be back? AM double protein shake with ketoslim (lots of vitamins and minerals) for a total of 48 g of protein B 4 oz carb control blueberry yogurt & lite string cheese L Stallone choc pudding (just received my order - it's not so bad) D 3 oz chopped burger with 1 slice of lite cheddar cheese melted & 2 tsp ketchup. some broccoli and a pineapple chunk S sf popsicle. My goal this year is for 60-80 g of protein each day. today was over 90. Now I have to get a scale. Exercise - 1 hour snow shoveling.
Shrinking.Violet
on 1/3/06 8:54 am - Cold Spring, NY
Hi Linda I'm 10 weeks out and STILL have no appetite, no desire to eat and nothing appeals to me, but I keep trying. So far today I've had two protein shakes (for a total of 70 grams of protein), 1 little turkey sausage link (that came back out -- guess I ate too fast, or maybe it was because I just didn't want it ) and about 8 small tortilla chips with cheese (those were ok, but I don't think I want them again). About scales, I got this one on-line from amazon.com back in October, right after my surgery and I LOOOOOVE it -- 26.99 with FREE shipping: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00024B76U/104-5313445-0217516?v=glance Vi
LindaM
on 1/3/06 9:26 am - Ravena, NY
Hi Vi, any protein intake will do you good. I'm 8 weeks out and it's sometimes a chore to eat as opposed to drinking water, tea, hot choc, pureed soups, broth, sf popsicles, etc. I think I've been actually hungry may a handful of times, however, I can't eat more than 1-2 oz of anything...and forget chicken and fish, the stuff just won't stay down. That's why I drink so much protein.
jamiecatlady5
on 1/4/06 6:05 pm - UPSTATE, NY
This is true most say~30g protein at a time, otherwise u r wasting money and taking in usesless calories! (*I wondered when looking at your posts WHY u were doing double protein shakes???) See http://www.vitalady.com/why_protein.htm for more info: (She (michle/vitalady) is 10 yr + distal RNYer who is known to many as MOM, she also answers many many emails feel free to contact her ok! and u dont have to be a customer!) Why do we use protein supplements? Protein is initially broken down in the upper small intestine, just outside the lower stomach, using an enzyme manufactured there called trypsin. Once broken down, protein best is best absorbed in that first 12 to 18 inches out of the stomach. If the food doesn't go by there any more, how will you break down and extract the protein from the tiny bit of food you can eat? While you can absorb some broken down (pre-digested) protein throughout the intestinal tract, the most absorption takes place right at the beginning, where ALL bypass and RNY patients are not going to get it. Supplemented protein is already pre-digested for almost instant absorption. It's liquid form makes it easier to get in, even into an irritated pouch, and the pre-digestion means you can count on absorbing at least most of it (unless you are very, very distal). Each person needs a minimum of 60g of protein per day. It's hard for any stapled stomach people to get it in their food, as the high protein foods are so dense, we simply can't get enough IN to ever reach 60g. Also, since many foods must be combined with bread or grains to be complete, what happens if you can't eat bread yet? Protein is best absorbed in amounts of no more than 30g at one time. Professional athletes can do a little better, but for weight loss surgery patients, 30g would be a good try. More protein won't hurt, but is just wasted. Unless you are very distal, two drinks of 30g each is an excellent start toward a healthy protein intake. Protein is the main foundation of our health. If the supply becomes depleted, malnutrition will result. But before that, we'd experience deficiencies in many other vitamins or minerals that show themselves more vividly, such as calcium. Another benefit to supplemented protein is that it satisfies cravings. While we are losing, the sugar cravings can drive us nuts. Part of it is sugar's hold on us. Part of it is low protein, very common for any of us and part of it is lack of general nutrition. By being well nourished, don't' ever go into starvation mode. It keeps the body thinking everything is fine and it is relaxed about allowing us to lose. Let it go into starvation mode, and it retaliates by hoarding even more calories than before surgery. The proteins we offer here are all considered "complete" and contain the full branch chain of amino acids, a smattering of vitamins & minerals and are lactose free, as well as very, very low in carbs, sugars, fats and calories. We also try to stick with smooth and tasty ones. The soys are rather gritty, so we can special order them, but do not stock them. The whey proteins are more flavorful, rarely chalky and never gritty. Most will shake up easily in 4 oz of water or sugar free juice or pop. If your surgeon forbids carbonation, flat pop will still give interesting flavors. Samples are available for a small price plus shipping. We encourage all weight loss surgery patients to consider this valuable resource over the usual milk and Carnation Instant Breakfast. Many of us become lactose intolerant after surgery. Milk is quite high in sugars, and low in protein in comparison. For the pouch space spent, the proteins offered here give much more brain satisfaction and more nutrition than milk or any FOOD type of protein and are more "available" to us for absorption. These samples represent about 20-30g, whatever it says on the label. If it says that 1 scoop - 22g, then this sample is 22g of protein (one scoop). Some brands have tiny scoops, so it takes 2 scoops to reach 30g. Those bags are marked 2 sc = 32g, so you've gotten 2 scoops or 32g of protein, for example. The label is from the only brand whose labels come off easily. While each one has slightly different sweeteners and other stats, generally this profile is what you will find in all our proteins. Glutamine enhanced, lactose free, low in sugar, cars, fats and high in protein with the full branched chain of amino acids. Protein HOLDS onto muscle, while allowing the fat to be flushed away with all tha****er you're drinking! ProScore 100 needs to be BLENDED with 6-8 oz of liquid and some ice, to taste. It doesn't shake well at all, but it is OH SO WORTH the blending! All others will shake up nicely in 4 oz of water. For variety, you can add them to Crystal Light or Diet Ice or Sobe Lean or any other sugar free juices. The ProBlend 55 vanilla is FABULOUS with diet root beer or diet orange pop, but I don't recommend shaking those unless you are CERTAIN the pops are flat. And yes, flat diet pop is safe. Blending them also takes out the carbonation if you blend them thoroughly. Yes, you can add fruit chunks when your doctor allows, bu****ch the sugar! We never add them to milk. Bear in mind that these products are made for body builders and weight trainers, as well as professional athletes. They are designed to put weight ON if used with milk! No one really can absorb more than 30g (or so) at one time, except professional athletes. We recommend a 30g "dose" for breakfast and during your mid-afternoon "sleepies" to get the most benefit if you are trying to get 60g per day. If you are a distal, 30g every 2 or 3 hours will get the required amount for you. You can mix up more grams and drink at one time, but you are merely buying the protein, not really getting the benefit of it. It is not advisable to mix it up in advance, as we know it loses its protein integrity (but how much?), and it begins to gather bacteria after as little as 30 minutes. Even refrigerated in a tightly sealed container is no guarantee that you'll be getting the full safe dose you hope for. We hope that you'll find one or more brands that you enjoy for your maximum weight loss and best possible health! Thanks! Take Care, Jamie Lap RNY 10/9/02 Dr. Singh 320/163 5'9'' (lost 45# before surgery) Plastics 6/9/04 & 11/11/2005 Dr. King "Being happy doesn't mean everything's perfect, it just means you've decided to see beyond the imperfections!"
us2bfat C.
on 1/3/06 8:55 am - selden, NY
i think i read somewhere that our bodies only absorb 20 or 30 grams of protien at a time.... not sure so dont kill yourself trying to get in so many grams in one shake.....keep up the good work your doing awesome Stacy
LindaM
on 1/3/06 9:29 am - Ravena, NY
Stacy, Wow, no one has told me that about the protein absorbtion rates... I mix a choc flavored one with one that has lots of minerals and vitamins and it's not so bad mixed with a piece of banana either. I'll check out the protein thing...Thank you for the information. Linda
us2bfat C.
on 1/3/06 9:52 am - selden, NY
i thought i was getting over by taking all 4 of my vitamins in the morning but my surgeon said we only absorb two of them at a time... let me know what you find out ... thanks.. Stacy
TberryRose
on 1/4/06 5:27 am
Hi Stacy Yes you are right about the protein AND the vitamins. I was told by Dr. Adaniel that we will only absorb 30 grams of protein at one time this is why we are told to split up our shakes to one in the am and one in the pm..the same reason for taking our vitamins and calcium in the am and pm. How were your holidays? Mine were wonderful. Got back from Florida last night--spent 11 days down there. Now I need a vacation from the vacation. Lots of reading to do on the posts to catch up for the past 11 days. Hugs Marianne
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