can anyone who had the RNY be switched to the DS?
Please share more on this very broad question/provacative statement..hard to answer w/o more content..Are you venting frustrations, pissed off, depressed, in hibernation mode, have buyers remorse, medical complication?
Yes BPD/DS revisions may be possible, I have not heard of one doen 1 mo post RNY!? Certainly surgery won't pay but you can probably self pay for this ($30K or so???) one is bound to find a surgeon who would do it (IMHO no good surgeon would at this point in the game).....
Emotional/psychological toll of WLS is HUGE we do not realize preop the emormity of this choice....BPD/DS is a great surgery, at times I had thought about it if I had more info preop, if my ins would of covered, if there was a surgeon locally etc.
I choose now to make the best of what have, anger for me gets me nowhere longterm, I cna have it move thru it now quicker...letting go of remorse, embitterment but that is me. Be well.
Counseling helped me, and many others, perhaos that is a great place to get support as a support group could also augment this online forum! Posting to your oh blog may help yu see the changes along the way!
Yes BPD/DS revisions may be possible, I have not heard of one doen 1 mo post RNY!? Certainly surgery won't pay but you can probably self pay for this ($30K or so???) one is bound to find a surgeon who would do it (IMHO no good surgeon would at this point in the game).....
Emotional/psychological toll of WLS is HUGE we do not realize preop the emormity of this choice....BPD/DS is a great surgery, at times I had thought about it if I had more info preop, if my ins would of covered, if there was a surgeon locally etc.
I choose now to make the best of what have, anger for me gets me nowhere longterm, I cna have it move thru it now quicker...letting go of remorse, embitterment but that is me. Be well.
Counseling helped me, and many others, perhaos that is a great place to get support as a support group could also augment this online forum! Posting to your oh blog may help yu see the changes along the way!
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Jamie Ellis RN MS NPP
100cm proximal Lap RNY 10/9/02 Dr. Singh Albany, NY
320(preop)/163(lowest)/185(current) 5'9'' (lost 45# before surgery)
Plastics 6/9/04 & 11/11/2005 Dr. King www.albanyplasticsurgeons.com
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"Being happy doesn't mean everything's perfect, it just means you've decided to see beyond the imperfections!"
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Jamie Ellis RN MS NPP
100cm proximal Lap RNY 10/9/02 Dr. Singh Albany, NY
320(preop)/163(lowest)/185(current) 5'9'' (lost 45# before surgery)
Plastics 6/9/04 & 11/11/2005 Dr. King www.albanyplasticsurgeons.com
http://www.obesityhelp.com/member/jamiecatlady5/
"Being happy doesn't mean everything's perfect, it just means you've decided to see beyond the imperfections!"
On August 12, 2008 at 4:13 AM Pacific Time, kleekelly wrote:
Why? You seem to be doing GREAT. I know Dr Clarkes office does not do many DS...it is so risky, unless you are very obese and have many co morbities. operative risks are really not that much higher for DS than RNY, as some would lead you to believe... especially when you account for the fact that DSers (in general, though obviously not all) tend to have a higher starting average BMI than their RNY counterparts... in other words, if you've got a BMI of 60, your operative risks are greater than someone with a BMI of 45 undergoing the same procedure.
Dr Clarke is a great surgeon, as is the rest of the Ellis group... AND the Albany Med group....
BUT...
you said he "does not do many DS"..... last I checked (directly with their offices) NONE of the groups in the cap district do the DS *AT ALL*.
In the capital region, your looking at travelling if you want the DS... choices (IN state) are O'Malley in Rochester, Hill in Saranac, or a few of the NYC groups. I chose NYC.
regarding the OP's question about revision.... yes, it can be done, and has been done quite a bit... we have a few RNY-DS revisions on the DS board.
HOWEVER...
just as the DS is a more complicated (difficult for the surgeon) procedure than the RNY.... an RNY to DS revision is even more complicated than a "virgin DS"... which narrows your choices even more, as not every surgeon who does the DS will undertake a revision.
lastly, being only a month or two out.... give it time. your pouch is still healing, so you're sure to feel like poop for a while until you adjust.
That said, if you REALLY have your heart set on a revision (and have the finances available to self-pay, as no insurance would cover it this early out) it certainly CAN be done, and it might even work out better than if you were to wait 5, 7, 10 years.... what SOMETIMES happens, is that the "remnant" stomach will basically atrophy, and the pylorus won't work anymore from years of not being used... when they reconnect the pouch to the remnant, there's a chance (the further out the patient is) that they won't have a "FULL" DS, but sort of a hybrid DS/distal RNY with a standard RNY-style pouch... which is one of the reasons some DSers chose the DS - to eliminate some of the common pouch issues that sometimes arise in RNYers.
Give yourself time to adjust... this early out, I'm sure it's buyers remorse.
Good luck
Why are you asking about revisions already? You are so new & it takes time to heal & deal with the changes to your body. You have to give it time. I can understand that you might be scared & wonder what in the world you've done - that's normal - everyone goes through that but if you are asking about DS so you can "eat anything you want" then quite honestly that's complete nonsense! You haven't had this tool long enough to really learn what it can do for you. If you are having issues with head hunger & cravings & such - more so than you can handle - then maybe you should talk to the psych to help you work through it. That's what they are there for!! Revisions are riskier than the original surgery & they don't just do them willy-nilly... it is a HUGE deal!!! I suspect you are just feeling blue & sad about not being able to have your soda, chinese food, rice & such but you knew coming in to this surgery that you would have to make changes & you knew they weren't going to be easy. Time will help & right now you haven't given it enough time!!
Also you mentioned in another post the other day about a stricture... is that something you know for a fact that you have or are you playing dr & assuming because of what you've read that that's what's going on? If in fact you have one I'd suggest getting it fixed ASAP!!!! There are so many issues that can crop up because of it - dehydration is a major complicatin & nothing to fool around with!! I know you have small kids but I believe people told you that you are in & out of the dr or ER in no time. Find someone to watch them - your health is more important!! What good are you going to be to them if you aren't here & isn't that why you had this surgery in the first place?
I don't mean to sound harsh but you have me very concerned & I really think you need to sit down with your surgeon and/or your psych & address these issues before something happens to your health!!! We care about you & just want to see you succeed!!
Cece
Also you mentioned in another post the other day about a stricture... is that something you know for a fact that you have or are you playing dr & assuming because of what you've read that that's what's going on? If in fact you have one I'd suggest getting it fixed ASAP!!!! There are so many issues that can crop up because of it - dehydration is a major complicatin & nothing to fool around with!! I know you have small kids but I believe people told you that you are in & out of the dr or ER in no time. Find someone to watch them - your health is more important!! What good are you going to be to them if you aren't here & isn't that why you had this surgery in the first place?
I don't mean to sound harsh but you have me very concerned & I really think you need to sit down with your surgeon and/or your psych & address these issues before something happens to your health!!! We care about you & just want to see you succeed!!
Cece
Cece to be honest with u, im not missing soda anymore.. after my dumping moment.. i HATE vomiting!.. i dont miss rice like i thought i would.. and i dont care for any foods now.. having vomited for the past 3-4 days, dry heaves, constipation depression ( which i never had), crying over nothing... crying cause im vomiting and my kids giving me that look that says.. why did u have this surgery, we want our funny, happy, playing momma back. my daughter rolls her eyes at me, wehn im rushing in the bathroom lol my lil one cries when he hears me dry heaving my guts out... and my oldest just asks me constantly.. but momma we LIKED u as u are, why did u have this surg and now all u do is cry.. complain .. dont eat ... and dont play with us.... *sigh*
i went on the DS forum and the ppl their are always so.. happy with thier Ds.. they say such things to make me regret my RNY, even the newbies are happy. As the nurse mentioned in this post. i wish i had more info and found out who did the DS, instead of sticking to the surg my pcp recommended.
i guess i am in very regretful mode, buyers remorse etc.. and i guess im depressed as hell. i may sound childish and immature, when i say i wish my weight would melt off like others have been, but thats how i feel!.
and for those who dont like.. well by all means pls dont read nor respond to my posts. this site was made for everyone.. ppl who are happy with their RNY and ppls like me who are not.
i did not know going into this surg that i would not be happy about it.. the reason why i did this surg is cause i thought i would be happy. being 1 mo out, may seem to be too early to complain, but for someone who has complication like me, it dosent seem too early to complain. ( i know others who probably have more complications, but this is happening to me now and i feel alone and miserable)
i know i need to give this more time.. and in all honesty i have no choice to but give it time... but im frustrated, angry, sadden, and regretful. so..... if ur offended by my words... anyone... i wont apologize, but pls by all means do not answer my posts nor read it...
thanks
i went on the DS forum and the ppl their are always so.. happy with thier Ds.. they say such things to make me regret my RNY, even the newbies are happy. As the nurse mentioned in this post. i wish i had more info and found out who did the DS, instead of sticking to the surg my pcp recommended.
i guess i am in very regretful mode, buyers remorse etc.. and i guess im depressed as hell. i may sound childish and immature, when i say i wish my weight would melt off like others have been, but thats how i feel!.
and for those who dont like.. well by all means pls dont read nor respond to my posts. this site was made for everyone.. ppl who are happy with their RNY and ppls like me who are not.
i did not know going into this surg that i would not be happy about it.. the reason why i did this surg is cause i thought i would be happy. being 1 mo out, may seem to be too early to complain, but for someone who has complication like me, it dosent seem too early to complain. ( i know others who probably have more complications, but this is happening to me now and i feel alone and miserable)
i know i need to give this more time.. and in all honesty i have no choice to but give it time... but im frustrated, angry, sadden, and regretful. so..... if ur offended by my words... anyone... i wont apologize, but pls by all means do not answer my posts nor read it...
thanks
Hi! as a pre op at Ellis Hospital i read all your posts. I dont know if my words will make you feel better, but.....
It sounds to me like you just need to knwo you are not alone, you are not, This is a great site but sadly you are apparently getting soem negative thigns as well. At this point that is the last thing you need.
You will figure your belly out. I know when i was pregnant i threw up every day i dont hink i missed more than one or 2 I survived and you know what i figured out what made my belly happy and what was a no no . Maybe this is how it will be for you.
Like i said i dont know if im helping but i just wanted to say you arent alone.
good luck
It sounds to me like you just need to knwo you are not alone, you are not, This is a great site but sadly you are apparently getting soem negative thigns as well. At this point that is the last thing you need.
You will figure your belly out. I know when i was pregnant i threw up every day i dont hink i missed more than one or 2 I survived and you know what i figured out what made my belly happy and what was a no no . Maybe this is how it will be for you.
Like i said i dont know if im helping but i just wanted to say you arent alone.
good luck
no, no u do make me feel better, and everyone who does pots , make me feel better, and to try to see the light.
but as u said, some ppl are very negative towards my plight.. they seem to think that magically all my craving, all my habits, everything i have doen for the past 30 yrs should be oblierated because i had this surgery!. well it dosent! u still are the same exact person u were going intot he surgery.. just with a smaller stoma.
ppl are alwasy saying how grateful i should be.. well when ur miserable, u dont feel grateful... im sure i will be when i can master my new lifestyle, but for now.. i truly hate it. my kids hate it.. and my hubby .. he dosent even eat in front of me.. he feels guilty, even though i told him he dosent need to.
so yessome of the posts help me, like ur and some dont.
pls dont be put off by my comments.. as u can see everyone health issues and surgery is difftrent. im just one of those who isnt having a grand old time and "loving my RNY" like others.
but as u said, some ppl are very negative towards my plight.. they seem to think that magically all my craving, all my habits, everything i have doen for the past 30 yrs should be oblierated because i had this surgery!. well it dosent! u still are the same exact person u were going intot he surgery.. just with a smaller stoma.
ppl are alwasy saying how grateful i should be.. well when ur miserable, u dont feel grateful... im sure i will be when i can master my new lifestyle, but for now.. i truly hate it. my kids hate it.. and my hubby .. he dosent even eat in front of me.. he feels guilty, even though i told him he dosent need to.
so yessome of the posts help me, like ur and some dont.
pls dont be put off by my comments.. as u can see everyone health issues and surgery is difftrent. im just one of those who isnt having a grand old time and "loving my RNY" like others.
I am sorry if what I said offended you but it wasn't said with malice. I am concerned because you seem to have a lot of issues that worry me & I mean more of the physical ones that need to be addressed by a dr. We ALL have gone through & continue to go through the mental & emotional ones so nobody is putting you down for that... we all can symapthize! Everybody wants to help you & some people might need more info to be able to understand what you're going through.
I personally didn't go through the buyer's remorse & I have never regretted having this surgery so I can't help you with those issues but I sure try... everyone is trying. I hope you find the answers you are looking for & can finally find the peace you need in having made this choice.
Cece
I personally didn't go through the buyer's remorse & I have never regretted having this surgery so I can't help you with those issues but I sure try... everyone is trying. I hope you find the answers you are looking for & can finally find the peace you need in having made this choice.
Cece
CeCe:
Its so funny you said that. I read these posts and sometimes find my self wondering "wow what am i about to do to my self" and than there are people like you that keep me pushing forward. . I guess its just different for everyone. BUT WE ALL WILL LOOK AT THESE DAYS 5 YEARS FROM NOW AND BE HAPPY WITH OUR CHOICES
Its so funny you said that. I read these posts and sometimes find my self wondering "wow what am i about to do to my self" and than there are people like you that keep me pushing forward. . I guess its just different for everyone. BUT WE ALL WILL LOOK AT THESE DAYS 5 YEARS FROM NOW AND BE HAPPY WITH OUR CHOICES