can some of u describe ur dumps? my nut said my dump, which is not vomiting..

detroitredwing22
on 7/30/08 9:21 am - Downstate, NY
my nuy said that there are 2 types of dumping. one is by vomiting, and the other is excess bathroom use. mine is the latter. does anyone agree?
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Kisses , Nanette

 

Brittwoman
on 7/30/08 11:08 am - West Babylon, NY
Mine starts with the rapid heart beat, followed by the pounding head, then the nausea follows, and lo and behold I need to run to the bathroom for some "hearsy squirts" and....last but not least...then I need to sleep it off for an hour Not a VERY pleasant experience, but it keeps me on my toes!!
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detroitredwing22
on 7/30/08 3:53 pm - Downstate, NY
thank u for responding, i havent had those yet, but im careful not to eat anything too sweet and i dont eat fried foods, i wonder if i ever will, i miss my fried chicken and french fries
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Kisses , Nanette

 

rosemary52
on 7/30/08 8:52 pm - NY
I have experienced both ways...but, not very often...I learned early on what caused this to happen to me and I try to avoid it...its no fun.

Rosemary
jamiecatlady5
on 8/2/08 1:26 am - UPSTATE, NY
When mostly we have liquids in we will have liquids out. at 3 weeks eating 2-4Tablespoons of soft food is typical, keep from milk due to risk lactose intolerance, keep from carbs for dumping (this means no mashed taters, no oatmeal or hot cereal) ...when you throw up a irritated pouch stays this way for days sometimes go back to liquids. If you can not do a protein shake it may be lactose intolerance, can u do 2-4 T cottage or ricotta cheese or dannon fit lite yogurt or is it same resonse/ Could be your GB is shot or could be ulcer or other issue. What does fluids only do?



DUMPING SYNDROME DEFINED, EXPLAINED, AND AVOIDABLE!
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The weight loss that is achieved through the RNY appears to be primarily dependent upon the removal of the pyloric valve, leaving the individual without a regulator of food movement into the small intestine. This results in the well-known phenomena called "dumping syndrome" which can cause an individual to feel sick or even faint. Rapid gastric emptying, or dumping syndrome, happens when the lower end of the small intestine (jejunum) fills too quickly with undigested food from the stomach. "Early" dumping begins during or right after a meal. Symptoms of early dumping include nausea, vomiting, bloating, diarrhea, and shortness of breath. "Late" dumping happens 1 to 3 hours after eating. Symptoms of late dumping include weakness, sweating, and dizziness. Many people have both types. Stomach surgery is the main cause of dumping syndrome because surgery may damage the system that controls digestion. Treatment includes changes in eating habits and medication. People who have dumping syndrome need to eat several small meals a day that are low in carbohydrates and should drink liquids between meals, not with them. It is imperative to the Roux En Y or other procedural gastric bypass patient that they follow their diet plan to reduce the risk factor of Dumping Syndrome. Many people equate the term solely to be spasmodic fits of diarrhea, when that is merely one of the symptoms of a more intensified unpleasant experience. Dumping syndrome is usually divided into "early" and "late" phases - the two phases have separate physiologic causes and shall be described separately. In practical fact, a patient usually experiences a combination of these events and there is no clear-cut division between them. Early dumping is caused by the high osmolarity of simple carbohydrates in the bowel. The various types of sugar all have small molecules, so that a gram of (for example) sucrose has MANY more molecules than a gram of protein, creating a higher concentration (number of molecules per cc) from simple sugars than from other foods. This matters because, inside the body, fluid shifts will generally go toward the higher concentration of molecules. So, if a patient consumes a bite of milk chocolate (lots of sugar), when it gets to the Roux limb it will quickly "suck" a significant amount of fluid into the bowel. This rapid filling of the small bowel causes it to be stretched (which causes cramping pain). This also causes the activation of hormonal and nerve responses that cause the heart to race (palpitations) and cause the individual to become clammy and sweaty. Vomiting or diarrhea may follow as the intestine tries to quickly rid itself of this "irritant." Late dumping has to do with the blood sugar level. The small bowel is very effective in absorbing sugar, so that the rapid absorption of a relatively small amount of sugar can cause the glucose level in the blood to "spike" upward. The pancreas responds to this glucose challenge by "cranking up" its output of insulin. Unfortunately, the sugar that started the whole cycle was such a small amount that it does not sustain the increase in blood glucose, which tends to fall back down at about the time the insulin surge really gets going. These factors combine to produce hypoglycemia (low blood sugar), which causes the individual to feel weak, sleepy, and profoundly fatigued. Late dumping is the mechanism by which sugar intake can create low blood sugar, and it is also a way for gastric bypass patients to get into a vicious cycle of eating. If the patient takes in sugar or a food that is closely related to sugar (simple carbohydrates like rice, pasta, potatoes) they will experience some degree of hypoglycemia in the hour or two after eating. The hypoglycemia stimulates appetite, and it's easy to see where that is going...The reason that sugar does not cause dumping in non-operated people is that the stomach, pancreas, and liver work together to prepare nutrients (or sugar) before they reach the small intestine for absorption. The stomach serves as a reservoir that releases food downstream only at a controlled rate, avoiding sudden large influxes of sugar that can occur after a Roux En Y. The released food is also mixed with stomach acid, bile, and pancreatic juice to control the chemical makeup of the stuff that goes downstream and avoid all the effects outlined above. Obviously, surgeons consider dumping syndrome to be a beneficial effect of gastric bypass - it seems to be important to provide quick and reliable negative feedback for intake of the "wrong" foods. In practice, most patients do NOT experience full-blown dumping more than once or twice. Most simply say that they have "lost their taste" for sweets. Of course, this is always a great topic to ask patients about directly, so you may want to ask about it at our support group in person, or in a support group online. It is an unpleasant side effect of this surgical procedure, experiencing it means one simple thing; you are not following your prescribed diet, and unless you do, dumping syndrome is going to become a major part of your life. Do yourself, and your body a favor and follow doctor's orders, to the letter.
Take Care,
Jamie Ellis RN MS NPP

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