11 more days and all is swell (my legs that it is)

(deactivated member)
on 4/18/08 11:11 pm - Porter Corners, NY
I can't get rid of this fluid! Diet, exercise.....but still retaining water. I may have to call my legs reseviours (butchered it )  cause they are retaining water. 11 days away from Gastric Bypass...and yet I feel numb. Why do I feel numb? I WANT it...I am working for it.....I WILL have it....
jamiecatlady5
on 4/19/08 10:58 pm - UPSTATE, NY
Tim:
Great topic for discussion. I bet with some personal reflection (talking to supportive folks, journaling etc) you can figure out for yourself what is going on...sounds like you are starting this process here at least! Great!

In my experience....

Numbness is typical in grief/loss....The penetrating emotional numbness and confusion accompanying grief can seem almost unbearable at times!

Numbness is a typical response to a major change/trauma in one's life. Consider if your life has anything that would classify (humm major surgery that will change not only your body but your mind and spirit as well!), the loss of someone in your community (friends, family, etc) to suicide is a major trauma that can call up acute stress reaction.

For those who have had past traumas, the body gets good at detaching to protect and can do this again and again w/o awareness even!. here are several reasons people might feel numb in the face of trauma.

1) can be a normal response if they are in shock.
2) Sometimes when people have been seriously injured they go into shock and temporarily don't feel physical pain. The same can be true with emotional injury; the shock temporarily protects the mind from pain until it's better able to deal with it.

Depression and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder have numbness as core components at times...Lack of feeling that goes beyond the current acute situation to a pervading case of the blahs about everything, is not normal and may be a sign of depression, an actual illness that can be helped with medical attention.
Sometimes if are exposed to abuse/neglect etc in our childhood we learn to shut down our feelings to protect ourselves, and grow up emotionally calloused.

So feeling numb is healthy and protective but can also if a ongoing pattern be unhealthy or destructive.

What is PTSD:
http://www.ncptsd.va.gov/ncmain/ncdocs/handouts/handout_What%20is%20PTSD.pdf

Ways to cope that are +/-:
http://www.ncptsd.va.gov/ncmain/ncdocs/handouts/iraq_clinician_guide_app_j6.pdf

or

http://www.concernservices.com/tipsheets/Coping%20with%20a%20Traumatic%20Event.pdf

Loss impacts us profoundly relationally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually. Got any loss going on in your life?

http://www.colorado.edu/studentaffairs/fsap/grief.html
Grief and Grieving

Grief is the process by which we adjust to the loss of someone (or something). It is therefore the inevitable companion to our love for and attachment to someone or something which is close to us and has meaning for us. It is important to understand that there is no 'right' or 'wrong' way to grieve or experience grief. Everyone will go through the grieving process somewhat differently. There are however some commonalities that most people experience when they have lost a loved one. Emotional numbness, guilt, denial, sadness and anger can all be a part of this process as well as physical manifestations such as sleeplessness, fatigue and a loss of appetite.

Grief is Normal
When someone is grieving, there is usually an intense feeling of sorrow or sadness. The grieving process allows us to accept the loss we feel and go on with our lives. It is important to experience grief after a loss to avoid 'bottling up' our feelings. Absence of the grieving process following a loss can cause physical illnesses and emotional problems. Experiencing and working through the grieving process is or can be a painful experience - but necessary to ensure future emotional and physical health.

The Grieving Process
It is generally believed that the grieving process can be less painful if we understand the various stages and see it as a natural and normal part of life. Following are some of the predictable stages - understanding that we all grieve differently and not all people go through all these stages.

Emotional Numbness: this is often the first reaction to a loss and may last from a few hours to days, weeks or years. The numbness can help us get through those practical arrangements that may have to be made regarding the loss. If the numbness persists, it could pose a problem that should be addressed through professional help.
Sadness: the emotional numbness usually gives way to an intense sadness, silence, loneliness, and for some people withdrawal from family and friends. This sadness is often accompanied by sudden outbursts of tears and memories associated with the loss. Prolonged sadness can turn into depression which may need professional assistance to be alleviated.
Anger: during this stage, we feel anger over the loss and its unfairness. We may find ourselves displacing this anger onto others - most often those who are closest to us.
Guilt: following a loss, many people feel a sense of guilt that is associated with all the things we didn't do or say to the person whom we have lost. It is important to accept our humanness and forgive ourselves in order to proceed with the grieving process.
Loneliness: as we move on with our life, we begin to experience the loss as a feeling of loneliness (and at times fear). It is important to reach out to others during this time.
Acceptance: with the passage of time, we begin to accept the loss. This does not mean immediate happiness but rather an acceptance of the reality of the loss.
Hope: we eventually reach a point in the grieving process where remembering is less painful, 'let go' of the loss and begin to look forward to the future.
Length of the Grieving Process
The grieving process can be lengthy and should not be rushed. Its length varies by individual and situation. It is believed that in general, it takes most people one or two years to 'recover' from a major loss.

Coping with Grief
There are many things that can be done to cope with the grief that is felt following a loss. It is important to ask for help and support from family and friends - or you may decide to join a grief support group. Discussing your feelings - be they anger, guilt, or sadness openly and honestly helps the grieving process. If your religious convictions are important to you, talk with a member of the clergy about your feelings and beliefs. During this process of grieving, avoid making major decisions as you may not have your usual good judgment. And, give yourself time; it takes time to heal which means you have to be patient with yourself and others.

Unresolved Grief
Some people do not seem to go through the grieving process. They don't cry at the funeral, they avoid mention of the loss of someone significant and return to normal activities very quickly. This may be their normal way of adjusting to loss and no harm may result. However, others may suffer from physical symptoms or repeated bouts with depression over the ensuing years. Sometimes the demands of family or work do not allow time to grieve. Or, some individuals may begin the grieving process and then get 'stuck'. In either case, the sense of disbelief seems to be prolonged. It is often advisable for someone who experiences an unresolved grieving process to seek professional help to assist with this important healing process.

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Be well on this journey...
Take Care,
Jamie Ellis RN MS NPP

100cm proximal Lap RNY 10/9/02 Dr. Singh Albany, NY
320(preop)/163(lowest)/185(current)  5'9'' (lost 45# before surgery)
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(deactivated member)
on 4/20/08 12:46 pm - Porter Corners, NY
I finally broke down and talked to a pastor friend of mine in Hudson Falls about some of the things bothering me. I Just sat in his living room and cried like a baby...but I felt good afterwards... God is good. He have me a friend that is a Biblical counselor and he gave me some encouragement and insights...and GOALS which will equal solutions. I read your info too Jamie..and as usual...you are helpful. you should really think about going into the mental health profession
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