Need honest opinions on Duke Bariatric Center

lamp35
on 10/27/11 1:39 pm
I am in the very early stages of starting the WLS process. My insurance will only cover the procedure if it is done at Duke. I have heard both positve and negative about the Duke WLS doctors.....please share with me your opinions. This is my very first post on Obesity Help, so Im not sure if people can email me directly if their review is negative and they dont feel comfortable posting it on this thread....

Thank you so much for reading!
Barbara C.
on 10/27/11 3:45 pm - Raleigh, NC

Duke has a robust program which is an American Society of Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery (ASMBS) designated Center of Excellence (COE). This designation is bestowed upon practices and surgeons that meet or exceed rigorously defined guidelines.

The ASMBS Center of Excellence criteria include the following:

  • Hospitals must perform at least 125 bariatric surgeries per year. Surgicenters must perform at least 100 bariatric surgeries per year.
  • Bariatric surgeons at these Centers of Excellence must have performed at least 125 bariatric surgeries during their career and must continue to perform 50 surgeries per year.
  • Centers of Excellence must be staffed by a multidisciplinary bariatric team including surgeons, nurses and other consultants.
  • All centers must pass a rigorous onsite inspection.
  • All centers must report their long-term outcomes to the Bariatric Outcomes Longitudinal Database (BOLD). The information gathered in this database is used to analyze the safety and benefits of bariatric surgery.
  • All centers must be re-evaluated with an onsite inspection every three years.
This is important because it means that you are engaging a program that is experienced and is providing you with well rounded resources to help give you the best chance for success. Duke has two programs. One in Durham and the other in Raleigh.  Duke Durham - I had my surgery in Durham. At that time, it was the only site that Duke had. It is the larger program. I really like and respect the medical team. I felt and still feel absolutely safe having my medical care through them and felt safe recommending my husband have his through them as well. I had my surgery over 4 years ago, so some things and personnel have changed, some are the same. We had some issues with the administrative, front office. We were able to manage the issues by working hard to maintain a dialogue with them and keep detailed records of who we spoke with, what the conversation was about, as well as asking about what to expect in terms of time lines, what happens next, etc... We both had Hillary Blackwell as the RNP that worked with us. She is absolutely phenomenal! She listens and takes time to answer questions. I couldn't ask for more. My surgeon was Dr. Eric DeMaria. He is no longer with the program. My husband's surgeon was Dr. Dana Portenier and we both really like him. He is approachable and knowledgeable; he is very good about talking with you to address any concerns and answer questions. I have not worked with any of the other surgeons at the Duke Durham facility. I like both of the psychologists with the program and feel confident that they are there to ensure that we had the tools necessary to maximize the opportunity from a psychological perspective. The registered dietitian that we worked with pre and post op is no longer with the program and I don't really know the RD's that work with the Durham program anymore. I attended all of the follow-up sessions that were prescribed, finding some more helpful than others. I also attended most of the support group meetings for the first 18 months or so. Each month has a different topic of discussion and with most of their support groups, following the topic of discussion, there would be a 10 to 15 minute open discussion/peer to peer meet and greet. After the first year, I realized that if it was October the topic was X, November the topic was Y, and so on... I was actually seeing the same slides and hearing the same information. Most of the information was geared to the preop patient or patients that were new postop. I didn't feel that I was getting much information that related to maintenance, so I didn't go as often. (Disclaimer... I also host my own peer to peer support groups, so when I wasn't getting new information, I didn't continue going.) Duke Raleigh - Duke opened a bariatric facility in Raleigh which happens to also be very close to my home. I decided to go to their support group meeting. I really like the format of their support group meeting, but also really like their overall program. It seems more intimate and patient centric. Their Bariatric Coordinator is FABULOUS and really provides one on one support to the patients. I have met and really like Dr. Jin Yoo, as well as Erica, the RNP that works with the program. Again, warm, caring, takes time to answer questions, I have really felt heard by Erica. I have met both of the RDs that work with the patients at Duke Raleigh, as well as the psychologist. While I have not 'worked' with them, I have met them at several of the support group meetings. They are warm, open, answer questions and seem good a problem solving. The support group meetings at the Duke Raleigh facility are run differently. They start with a topic/discussion which varies from one month to another that lasts about 30 minutes, then they welcome Q&A as well as peer to peer discussion. Often, many of the topics that they have had seem to have relevance across patient populations... i.e., it doesn't matter as much whether you are preop, losing weight or in maintenance. While I have not personally gone through the preop workup with this program, I have a large support group that has patients from programs all over the triangle and beyond. I tend to get feedback about many of the programs. I am not aware of the same kind of front office issues with this program, but it is a much smaller program.

I guess, the long and the short of my perspective, is that Duke has a strong, robust program. You can get 'lost in the crowd'... especially with the Durham program which is much bigger, but if you advocate for yourself as you go through the preop process, finding out what the process is, timelines, what to expect, who the point of contact is, etc... I think that can minimize or make manageable the administrative issues. Regarding the care you get, I believe it is very good. While you may 'like' the personality of one Dr over another, or prefer a particular Dr because they perform a particular surgery you want to have done, I absolutely believe that all of the members of the Duke Bariatric programs in Durham and Raleigh are top notch.

I hope I helped... if you have more questions, please let me know.

Regards, 

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

Lifztooshort
on 11/5/11 11:35 pm
I had RNY with Dr. Sudan on 06.07.11.  My partner had RNY in January 2009 with Dr. Torquati.  When my partner went throught the process in 2008-09, Duke was struggling with serious customer service issues.  Things have changed greatly and for the better.  I admit I can only speak regarding Dr. Sudan's team, but I have never had an issue with speaking to someone on the phone.  I have not made many calls to the WLS Center but I have been pleased with the team and Dr. Sudan.  In my opinion he is in the elite category based on all my research and personal interaction with him.  My grandfather was a physician and expect my doctors to live by there oath.  Dr. Sudan is a quiet, knowledgeable surgeon who IMHO cares greatly about his patients.  He does not say much but I would not take that in a negative way.  He is one of a handful of Duodenal Switch surgeons in the country and he has done his fair share.  He is published and does robotic surgery also.  You are in successful, competent hands.
I get tired of going to the follow up groups but do it because I am supposed to.  It is nice to share with other surgery candidates and post ops.  I think you will find the process to be tough at times but it will not be due to the staff at Duke WLS.  Use them as your resource for all questions and read, read, read...  BTW I am 5 months post op and have had no issues.  I was 270+ a my highest and 260 at surgery.  I wore 46 pants and 2X shirts.  I now wear 34 pants and can wear a medium shirt.  I weigh 189 and continue to lose.  I work out regularly and maintain a diet consistent with what Duke recommends.  I have no regrets!!!!  It was hard during the first 2 months but I just kept telling myself it will get better.  This website is great and I belong to one on Facebook that is extremely positive and supportive.  "Zan Perry" on FB, come join us!  Best wishes.  I didn't read all of Barbara C's post but she is a great resource in the community!!!
Zan - Life's too short...        
Believe in yourself and seek clarity.  Be your own advocate because it is your life and your body.


        
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