crack head

HOTTMAMMA
on 9/12/07 9:51 pm
I post here because I thought I could talk to you all. I guess not. I am getting help. I am going 2 times a week to get help. I can't wait till some of these people on here loose lost of weight and go through what I have. I am sorry but I don't see a freaking thing wrong with the way I dress. I have my family took care of if and when I die.  I am sorry if I put to much drama on here for you all.   
SFCynthia
on 9/12/07 11:54 pm - San Francisco, CA
On September 11, 2007 at 9:52 AM Pacific Time, HOTTMAMMA wrote:
If I get called a crack head one more time I am going off on some one......Had a man I never seen before in my life wanted to trade me sex for crack. I told him crack would kill my little ass. Then the same thing happen the next day. I get called a crack head almost 3 ot 4 times a week. I am 43 years old. Even women will say she looks like a crack head......what the hell.............
"I get called a crack head almost 3 ot 4 times a week".  Amy, You need to go somewhere, and get a lot more help.  You need to check in, and get some In-Patient care.  There is no way around it.  I'm not trying to be hard or mean.  But honest.  No exscuses from you.  They are meaningless. 

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Carl Sagan

HOTTMAMMA
on 9/13/07 3:04 am

who in the world is going to pay my bills while I go????? rent,lights, I will need a home to come back to. That is the only thing keeping me from going to get more help. I get all the help I can afford............................I know I need help. I am doing all I can do to get it........but there is no way I can go for more than 2 days and I know I can't be helped in that little time. I would love to go to a place where they deal with eating disorders.

amy

dlfrederick
on 9/14/07 12:55 pm - Charlotte, NC
Other people have gone to the state for help.  So can you.  They will help you pay your rent, bills and give you food stamps.  Amy I was not trying to be rude , mean, or heartless when I said " if I saw you on the street I would probably say the same thing."   I have had first hand experience with crack heads and I work in the ER so I see people with eating disorders, also my sister-in-law had WLS 2 years this December and she is starting to look like you do.  I speak my mind and you came on here venting so I spoke my mind.  Everyone on here is talking  about  being from the south, we are kind, nice, and have manners.  I have them all.  I am the sweetest person you will ever meet.  But  sweetie the truth is the truth.   And  this country has freedom of speech. I will keep you in my prayers and hope that you get the help you need.


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Gigi23
on 9/13/07 3:14 am - Haw River, NC
SFCynthia
on 9/15/07 1:03 am - San Francisco, CA
On September 13, 2007 at 10:14 AM Pacific Time, Gigi23 wrote:
That was harsh and un-called-for.  You are being hard and mean.  What makes you think you can tell anyone they need inpatient care?  That is the doctor's call.   And saying her "excuses are meaningless!"  Pease don't post here in NC if you can't be kind and supportive.  Down south here, we have manners, are not rude and unkind.  That was all of the above.  Please apologize to Amy. Blessings, dianef
In recovery we have a term for the type of support you are talking about.  We call it..."Loving someone to death". Sorry, but I'm not going to sugar-coat anything about this situation.  It is very sad and scary.  And I want to be able to say I tried to help Amy and her family.  Her daughter is beautiful, and I can tell she loves her Mom.  I am motivated by that beautiful young woman to try and tear down the wall of denial for Amy. Anyway,  Amy has now run away.  I hope she comes back.  But I refuse to be someone who loves her to death.  Or to support her faulty thinking.

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Carl Sagan

Gigi23
on 9/15/07 2:27 am - Haw River, NC
SFCynthia
on 9/15/07 10:26 am - San Francisco, CA
On September 15, 2007 at 9:27 AM Pacific Time, Gigi23 wrote:
And we all see how well "your way" worked.  If you want to flame someone, next time please look in your own back yard.  It is well known there are plenty of flamers in San Francisco.  This is the Bible belt of the south and you don't seem to have a clue as to what that means.  You are not her keeper, mother, or therapist.  It clearly appears that you hunted her down on this website to tear her down some more.  This is an obesity support group:  not rehab.  Please keep your strong arm tactics where they belong.  Here in the south, we look after our own.  You will argue that your are right until the crows come home.   It is painflully clear that it is more important to you that you are right, than helping Amy!  How sad is that? We genuinely love and care for Amy "as one of our own."  We appreciate any genuine effort you made, but your work with Amy stops here.  I am asking you kindly to leave her alone.  Just by virtue of the fact that Amy does not WANT  your help seems to egg you on more! If you continue this pursuit, when Amy may come back, I will report these unwanted tactics to the proper authorities here and you can argue with them how right you are.  I will pray for you too, with your continued recovery from drugs and alcohol.  Please remember to trust in the Lord.  There are times you have to let go, and Let God, for through Him ALL things are possible. Blessings, Dianef
Wow Diane!  I'm sorry you are unable to read my words without feeling such rage and anger towards me. Save your prayers...I'm an athiest...and very proud to be so.  I have not attacked your state, you, or your belief  system.  But I have only explained my own.  And I love my San Francisco "Flamers".  But I say it with love, and not hostility like I'm guessing you are saying it. I am not "hunting" down Amy.  I care a great deal about her and her daughter.  Her son is already gone.  Yes, I was directed to this post of hers by another person in another website.  I don't think that is a crime as this is not a private website, and nither is the other one.   There are many paths one can take to reach the end of a road.  Are you truly able to physically go and take care of Amy?  That would be great.   Can you go and help her take care of her home and find a place for her to get some help.  Perhaps even give her some rent money so she can do this.  I think that is wonderful. I can only reach Amy throught the same media she uses.  I wholeheartely support you reaching out and helping her in person or over the phone since you are in the same area. Good for you!  (I'm hope your not lying about being there and being able to help her...I think your bible would have to say something about someone being dishonest and such...I think that is a big no-no in your god's eyes.).

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Carl Sagan

raylo
on 9/16/07 4:36 am - Brooklyn, NY
On September 15, 2007 at 5:26 PM Pacific Time, SFCynthia wrote:
On September 15, 2007 at 9:27 AM Pacific Time, Gigi23 wrote:
And we all see how well "your way" worked.  If you want to flame someone, next time please look in your own back yard.  It is well known there are plenty of flamers in San Francisco.  This is the Bible belt of the south and you don't seem to have a clue as to what that means.  You are not her keeper, mother, or therapist.  It clearly appears that you hunted her down on this website to tear her down some more.  This is an obesity support group:  not rehab.  Please keep your strong arm tactics where they belong.  Here in the south, we look after our own.  You will argue that your are right until the crows come home.   It is painflully clear that it is more important to you that you are right, than helping Amy!  How sad is that? We genuinely love and care for Amy "as one of our own."  We appreciate any genuine effort you made, but your work with Amy stops here.  I am asking you kindly to leave her alone.  Just by virtue of the fact that Amy does not WANT  your help seems to egg you on more! If you continue this pursuit, when Amy may come back, I will report these unwanted tactics to the proper authorities here and you can argue with them how right you are.  I will pray for you too, with your continued recovery from drugs and alcohol.  Please remember to trust in the Lord.  There are times you have to let go, and Let God, for through Him ALL things are possible. Blessings, Dianef
Wow Diane!  I'm sorry you are unable to read my words without feeling such rage and anger towards me. Save your prayers...I'm an athiest...and very proud to be so.  I have not attacked your state, you, or your belief  system.  But I have only explained my own.  And I love my San Francisco "Flamers".  But I say it with love, and not hostility like I'm guessing you are saying it. I am not "hunting" down Amy.  I care a great deal about her and her daughter.  Her son is already gone.  Yes, I was directed to this post of hers by another person in another website.  I don't think that is a crime as this is not a private website, and nither is the other one.   There are many paths one can take to reach the end of a road.  Are you truly able to physically go and take care of Amy?  That would be great.   Can you go and help her take care of her home and find a place for her to get some help.  Perhaps even give her some rent money so she can do this.  I think that is wonderful. I can only reach Amy throught the same media she uses.  I wholeheartely support you reaching out and helping her in person or over the phone since you are in the same area. Good for you!  (I'm hope your not lying about being there and being able to help her...I think your bible would have to say something about someone being dishonest and such...I think that is a big no-no in your god's eyes.).
(Deep breath)

 
 I find myself in very foreign territory here, as it seems that I'm about to defend something that Cynthia has written.  Oh ... the irony ...

 I really don't see where Cynthia has hunted Amy down, and although I'm not a big OH poster, this is not the first time that Amy has disabled her profile. I cant see how one could go about blaming that on Cynthia.
 
 Gigi23/Dianef -- your "
plenty of flamers in San Francisco" is nasty, and obviously homophobic, more than that, it has no bearing on the topic at hand. If you want to post positioning yourself as the mouth of the south speaker, representing all of the Bible Belt,  why not do it with a more Christ-like demeanor?  I'm more than sure that many of your fellow Bible Belt residents don't want, or need you to paint them with your hateful paintbrush.  Yes, this is an Obesity support group. Amy is no longer obese, and the other end of the spectrum she's now on, is just as dangerous as being Super Morbidly Obese.   Have you any experience with Anorexia Nervosa?? It kills. It causes heart damage. It's got to be one of the most difficult eating disorders to come back from. Starvation alters the brain chemistry. I've been in an Eating Disorder treatment center, a 30 day inpatient thing, when I was in my early 20's -- for treatment of bulimia. I met bulimics, anorexics, compulsive overeaters (what we'd now refer to as M.O. folks), 'exercise bulimics' (compulsive exercisers) ... and many people in treatment had a combo of these disorders.    Really, inpatient treatment is the most helpful for one dealing with the horrors of anorexia, and even that isn't the most successful.    I can't speak to the reality of finding treatment, nor how Amy would find a way to make it financially, were she in an inpatient program.    The state of healthcare sucks, and a great deal of private insurers no longer cover EDU programs -- it's unfortunate. I can't speak to what a state health care would cover, because one never knows. Hell, I don't even know if Amy has health coverage -- it sucks if she doesn't. Speaking as one of the uninsured masses, despite being disabled, I know just how difficult it can be to find help for oneself.   As for letting go, and letting god ... as someone recently pointed out to me, god helps those who help themselves.    ~Rachel
Gigi23
on 9/16/07 12:29 pm - Haw River, NC

Rachel, I am certainly not homophobic.  I'm not even angry.  I just feel like folks come out of the woodwork to attack Amy.  Folks have said some mean and hateful things, accused her of being on crack... how would they know that in San Francisco?  I don't know either. I do know that folks have turned up that never ever posted on the NC board, just to go after Amy.  And that drove her away.  Is it better now that she is not reaching out? I have never been accused of behaving in a manner other than a Christian.   I am terrified for atheists because I know where they are going to end up!  Amy is gone, let's leave this alone.  We obviously disagree.  My beliefs come from the Bible, the most scrutinized book ever written and still undeniably the best selling non-fiction book ever written.  I put all of this in God's hands.  Through God all things are possible.   I realize Cynthia is on a mission to prove herself right in her own mind.  I happen to know she is wrong.  My opinion won't change if she calls in 1,000 people to defend her.  This is a dead issue.  I wish no one ill will.  I am not angry.  I am very sad and disappointed that folks can be so cruel, proudly denounce our heavenly Father, know they are going to hell and not even care.  It's sad. It's like watching demons half drain a swimming pool, fill it with acid and watch a group of children running to jump in the pool.  The pool is clear and pristine on a hot summers day.  You can scream and shout to warn them not to jump in, and they keep running ...not listening or caring.  The more you try to stop them, the madder and meaner they get.  It is agonizing to watch, as a Christian. When you turn your back on the Lord and proudly denounce him, you become like one of those children running for the pool of acid. 

If you care to, please read the book 23 minutes in Hell.  It's about a man who died and went to hell and returned to life 23 minutes later.  The analogy I used about the children running toward the pool came from that book. I am sure Cynthia feels she is right.  I am 55 years old, with 3 grandchildren.  No, I have never dealt with alcoholism or drug addiction.  I am battling food addiction.  This web site has been a god send to me.  I would be lost in my journey without it.  I don't want to fight with anyone and lose my spot here. I believe what the Bible says and I will until the day I die.  It is who I am.  My heart breaks for Cynthia!  I know Amy is not well, and no, I don't know enough to say what's wrong. I believe that if Cynthia wanted to approach Amy on the personal level that she did, it should have been done privately, not in a public forum to humiliate her.  That was cruel. When she no longer had Amy to attack, she came after me.  I just shut it down.  I feel Cynthia is full of rage.  I could be wrong.  As for me.. I'm laid back, low key, don't like drama Diane. God answers all prayers, but in His perfect timing.  God loves all His children.  He does not want to see a single one of His children in Hell.  The pain he suffers from each lost soul is more than any mortal soul could stand.  It is not the Lord that sends us to Hell, we, as human beings, do that to ourselves. I realize Cynthia called in the troops to prove her point.  Even though I have blocked her, please extend to her my blessings and let her know she is prayed for tonight.  God bless you! Diane

Through God ALL things are possible! 

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