WHATS HAPPENING FRIDAY

Worked all day long in the yard today. Don’t know if I accomplished much but was out there doing stuff. Lol

Re potted several baby plants into bigger pots in the greenhouse. That was fun..

But not very exciting to report I guess.

 

The lake is really high and with all this new rain suppose to get tonight wonder how much more it will raise LOL

The weather guys said we are suppose to get some pretty sever thunderstorms tonight  .

Thought I would go ahead and get this typed and even put on the board in case the elect fails. Even tho we don’t have near the electric disruption as most places around do.

 

Got a phone call from Faye tonight wanting the protein ball recipe. If someone else wants it here it is once more.

1 cup of protein powder

1 cup Splenda

1cup of old fashioned uncooked oats

2 cups of natural peanut butter. (I like Skippys best)

Mix together make balls the size of black walnuts ,

Lay it out on cookie sheet with waxed paper.

Put in ref. to cool back down, then store in air tight container in Ref.

About 8 grams protein per ball

           

 

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO Connie Foray and Cathy Wolfe  today

HOPE THE DAY IS GREAT FOR BOTH OF YOU.

 

 

DEBBIE  M: well was good to see you here again. hey I have the lumps in my neck too. One large one on the right side completely encases the thyroid gland and have 6 on the other side . They did ultra sounds, and all sorts of stuff. Took 10 vials of fluid out of them and sent it to mayo clinic only to find out that it was nothing. Totally negative of any harmfull cells. Did real extensive thyroid tests and all of them came back ok that my thyroid glands were working great. They did say to keep an eye on them to see if they get larger that it might be something that we want to operate on and get rid of but I don’t think so .

Glad Jason and Wendy are doing good. And that they are now having another baby.

Hope you continue to post and stay with us. We have missed you.

 

 

TRACI: lol well I got you to giving everyone lots of answers to the protein question. I have another one for you , Ever since I have know about protein and this surgery I have been told that we cant use anymore than 30 grams an hour. Is this true? I have not and can not find anything that says that it is. Also what about caffeine? Does it dehydrate or what?  Thanks for answering all of our questions.

 

BEV: Pancake? Wow you are braver than me. I did eat a few bites of a multigrain one but don’t want anything to do with white flour pancakes. I threw out all of my white flour and bought wheat flour it is really good I think. I make everything if it calls for flour out of the multi grain flour.

Bev if you are lacking something in your diet it is probably protein. It is what gives you energy and makes you lose but as Traci says you have to get it all from protein drinks.

Glad you looking for a new PCP, I love mine she supports wls , she doesn’t know a lot about it and is always asking me this question or another. I told her to call Dr. Hornbostels office and talk to Him or Margie and have them send her stuff . She did and has a whole file about things and what to watch for with me now. Lol

I have been trying to do as Traci says about my protein drink. And just make them with water. But I have to had some flavor to it. I never have been able to take liquid meds and made with water it taste like medicines to me. So I use different flavors in my water so it at least taste half way good lol

I still make my first one in the morning like I did like a smoothie. I use it as my breakfast and what I use to get down my pills.

 

NANCY : yes that is the one I couldn’t remember the name of. I knew there was one that you can mix with hot stuff.  How is it? There no taste at all to it? How much protein

Glad you decided to post on here and continue to talk to us ok?

 

 

JANET: That is always a horrible ordeal to pack up for someone that has passed away. Poor guy must have been really sad and lonely . Do you really think he took his own life?

That is so sad , what a waste of what God put on this earth.

Good luck on your completing your fire arms test. It will be ok don’t worry about it you are very smart.

I am praying for you to get that Gall Bladder out of there. Even tho it was a horrible pain it can get worse. To the point that you pass out actually. So hope you get that fixed right away.

Isnt it exciting to be able to do things that you never could do before? Amazing isnt it?

Does he go both in the spring and in the fall too? hunting that is?

Joe doesn’t like to hunt them in the fall for some reason. Don’t know but it doesn’t matter cause he never gets one anyway lol

I hope my tulips up in front bloom but I have been having a fight with the deer over them this year. Next year I am going to put up a elect fence to protect them and see . I bought some stuff to spray on them  that is suppose to keep the deer and rabbits away but I think it was too late , Some are getting buds on them but don’t know …will just have to wait and see I guess. Makes me mad. I told Joe wish he would sit out there at night and shoot them.

Maybe Mike could take a tractor and make Steph a turn around spot at the end of the drive lol I just don’t think I would be brave enough to get in the car with her. Lol

 

 

SHANNON : so sorry that you are having all of these health problems. Seems some have all sorts of things happen to them and others have nothing. Just doesn’t seem fair does it?

It doesn’t bother you to work in braces? Or do you only wear them at night?

I hope they find someway to help you. Hey maybe they could inject some of your own fat cells in there that you want to get rid of somewhere else lol

They can inject them from other places into your face so why not your knees.?

Hope you get better quick.

 

Well I did this post quite a bit early tonight so I can get it on before the storm**** .

Hope where you are  at that all of you are safe and dry.

Remember what they say about driving over water covered roads and bridges.

Turn around don’t drown.

 

\Love you all

GOD BLESS/

 

Morning everyone Wow - some wild storms in Missouri last night.  Hopefully everyone is okay.  There was a tornado warning for our area, and saw a huge storm headed our way, and the thing split in two and pretty much went right around Sullivan.  Praise God - but I hope no one else got  hammered or injured!! I got a lot done yesterday, work-wise.  I need to be equally as productive today.  Hopefully I can be.  Jan:  I too have always heard that 'no more than 30 grams of protein at one time' statement.  I've asked many to confirm that to me in writing, with a scientific study - something.  I have yet to see anything, or where that info originated from in scientific fact to back it up.  I have studies or other credible information to back up everything I post here on the board.  It's not just me spouting off or repeating some rhetoric I've heard elsewhere; although, it is all information that is out there and posted elsewhere, I wanted proof.  So I did research and found evidence/proof to support what I post.    Some of it is just plain common sense and thinking through normal biology - how it functioned before and how our bodies have been altered; and then thinking about  what malabsorption really means, and how it really effects us as post-ops; and with all that in mind, what we need to do to stay healthy. Girl - let me tell you something, there are a few topics in the WLS post-op world that will bring about some extremely heated debates and arguments: and believe it or not, whether or not to even drink protein shakes at all is one of them, and then if you do - whether or not to mix them with anything at all besides jus****er, is another.    If one were to read over all the information I've posted on protein, and really soaked that in and realized how our new bodies just are no longer able to effectively digest protein, just as we're no longer able to absorb B12 and really iron either - and basically fully come to realize and understand what malabsorption is and means for us in our new post-op bodies:  then it won't be a shocking conclusion that we need protein shakes, and of course, vitamin supplements, in order for us to stay healthy.    I just think most folks see and hear all this biology stuff and their eye glaze over like a deer in headlights and their brains shut down and they just don't hear it.  Either they don't want to, it's too technical for them, or whatever - but it's critically important that every RNY and DS post-op patient know this stuff. 

Good Morning Jan and OH Peeps~ What a dreary Friday it is here-and what a change from yesterday. We set a record yesterday-it was 82 here!! Right now its like 49!!! Whats up with that? I didnt sleep much last night-I ended up with that nagging, hacking cough that just irritates you off and on all night long. Sat upright on the couch and tried sleeping that way-would swig my cough medicine like an alcoholic right out of the bottle (LOL) but it wasnt helping-think it helped knock me out at one point, but thats it.  Our weather changed by 30 degrees in just an hr or so-and we started getting those storms. About 15 minutes south of us-they got hail so hard and large that it was busting out house windows! They showed it on the news and I cant believe how big the hail was! Yesterday I didnt do much of anything but pitter patter around the house-got a lot of calls yesterday-so much going on. That guy that had threatened to kill me and my dad-he got arrested for holding a gun to 3 peoples heads while his step brother beat the dad with a lead pipe-that guy that got beat-he ended up in the ICU dept at Freeman Hospital with severe injuries-then they rammed a police car while the cop was getting back into it-and the car they used to ram the police car-was stolen. My dad made his call up to the police dept to make sure that this Jeffrey Thurston thug got served the complaint my dad signed. The police know him and his family by name and advised my dad to sign the complaint as the manager of the motel and not to put my last name on the paperwork-due to us being the only ones in the phone book with that last name-and of course-our address is listed there as well!!! Anyway-he is bound over for trial. Hopefully this time he stays behind bars where peices of crap like him belong. Megan was with me in the office the night he threatened me-because he wanted his money back (had been evicted for 4 different reasons) and I couldnt do that-he spit in my face-and without thinking-I wigged out and spit back in his and then I lost it-just before he spit in my face-this huge guy walked in the front door of the motel-and when I spit back on Thurston, the angel, as I call him-walked over and stood right in front of me so that Thurston would have to move him to get to me. When Thurston left the office-I called my dad and then the police since he said I better say goodbye to everyone I love because tonite would be the last night I would see my loved ones. The angel looked at me-and he said-I was driving my truck (semi) and for some reason-I was told I had to get off that exit and come here-Im not tired and I have never been here before tonite, now I know WHY I was brought here! I started bawling. Thank you, God! Thanks for the gaurdian angel that night!! I now have a tazer and pepper spray in the office. I now have Annie at home-just in case-and now we have a rolodex with peoples names on it that we cannot/will not rent to. IF someone comes in with a nondrivers license and they are driving-we dont rent to them-most of our evictions and problem customers-are ones with a nondrivers license-but they are driving anyway. Today I am going to get Stephs car legal, I hope. Have to get her tax exemption paperwork and get the 30 day tag on it, then go to work, then leave work early and finish up the last night of the Hunters Safety course. Yikes!! Im not looking forward to that today. Megan is coming over after school to help me get a couple of boards put back in the fence where the dogs are. They were across the street this morning, they have NEVER done that before!!! I cant have them doing that!  Plus I have several calls to make and then Im off. So-I will wrap this up (since I keep getting off track anyway-LOL) and get my day going. **Jan-Mike hunts turkey and deer, and then all year long he can hunt pig. He hasnt been pig hunting in awhile due to his knees and he is putting off his surgery because of his job. He takes Darrel out in youth season for both as well. I doubt I will go deer hunting-but at least with my course completed, should I pass-I can if I want. I know I am going turkey hunting if everything is okay-but will see about the rest. I wont go pig hunting because of the terrain (up around Stockton Lake) and they are mean when they go in packs, I would get too nervous if they started chasing me-like they did with Mike and his friend Terry (not Mels hubby Terry-)  Hey-maybe you could put one of those blocks out for the deer-like a salt block-or the apple flavored one-or even what they call deer cocaine-I bet if you put that out there away from your tulips etc-they will go right to that and leave your plants alone-I have them out here-the deer leave my stuff alone-but the rabbits are another story-we have dozens upon dozens of bunnies out here!  Hope your shot goes well today and that you have instant relief.  Miss you. ***Deb-Good to see you-you look wonderful!!! When did you change your hair? I was like-Deb? Anyhow-you look so good!!! Congrats! I would have never recognized you!  So you are going to have a little granddaughter? Congrats!! I keep Wendy and Jason in my prayers! As well as you and David! Miss seeing you here and hope you will keep coming back. We love you. 

***Bev-your old PCP sounds like she was lazy, or she didnt know what to treat you with-so she just didnt. Glad your getting a new doctor-you cant keep going to a dr who is an idiot and wont help you with your health issues-kind of defeats her being a doctor if she wont or doesnt treat you medically! Good luck with the new one! **Shannon-Im so sorry to hear about your health issues now being because the fat is gone! Thats what the docs are telling me now too-since there is no fat padding my back-I am in so much pain now-I have to have all my lower discs fused, 2 rods put in my back, have some cysts removed from my spine and my siatic nerve fixed-and thats after finally being healthier than I have ever been-can you believe it? It still makes me go hhhmmm, doesnt it?  Im sorry for what your going through, Shannon-and I will keep you in my prayers! Well, I am getting off here and getting the house picked up so I can get my stuff done before work. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend and as always, your in my thoughts and prayers.  Janet

Good morning/afternoon...no, there's no taste to it at all.  I was skeptical, but it really has no taste...i'm not going to say it doesn't make things look different, but they still taste virtually the same.  There is 17 gm protein per scoop and the scoop is pretty good sized...i only use 1/2 scoop in a large cup of coffee.  I figure any extra protein is good...i also add it to my sf pudding when i make up a box of it....i have given it to my kids and they didn't know the difference.   It can change the texture of baked goods so you have to kind of do that by trial and error until you get it the way you can tolerate it.  Glad i could help..........Nancy

Good afternoon OH friends!  It sure is nice out today hope it stays that way? I made the salsa crockpot chicken recipe that I posted earlier in the week and it was wonderful....I don't care much for breast so I used thighs in mine it was really good and a big hit with the family.  I couldn't eat much of it because my stomach didn't like it that day it's funny sometimes I can eat chicken and sometimes not?  I also made a low sugar strawberry short cake.  I just used the 50% less sugar yellow cake mix and made that up then I got some fresh strawberries and mashed them up and sweetened them with splenda and topped it with lite cool whip it was yummy and my tummy didn't mind that at all.  Tomorrow I am going to make my wonderful low carb crockpot BBQ brisket..... I have lost another 2 pounds with a grand total of 67lbs since surgery two months a go so I was thrilled this morning.  I only have to lose 34 more pounds and then I will be rewarding myself with a new bike.  I have wanted a bike for years but would never get one cause I thought I was too fat and people would make fun of me but now I feel like I could get one and ride it.  I think I have one picked out but it's like $300???yikes!  Maybe I could afford it since I just paid my car off Monday? WOW moment!  I had on a pair of sweats this morning size 3x and my friend told me not to wear them anymore cause they were too baggy and falling off me.  I thought I would never hear something like that when just a few months ago I filled those sweats out!  I need some new clothes that fit I guess?  I changed into something a little less baggy. Question to Traci;  How much protein does our body absorb from meats if an?  And why is it that the dr says to eat protein first if our bodies aren't absorbing it?  What about cottage cheese it's high in protein do we absorb that? Have a great day everyone! Bev

Bev:  my picky pouch still has a love-hate relationship with chicken!  If it's shredded and really moist, I can eat it; but a chicken breast cut-up, not likely to settle well.  As for protein absorption from meats or any food source:  from the studies I have and my research, protein is protein; and it all needs to end up in the same form of ammino acids in order for our body to absorb it and be used.  All protein requires the same enzymes and digestive process to get down to those ammino acids.   What I am not 100% clear on myself is if, as you mentioned, cottage cheese, for example, is easier to break down than a piece of chicken breast or beef steak.  Logic and in theory that would seem like it would be, but on a chemical level, which is where true digestion and absorption occurs, I'm not sure that's necessarily true.  Protein is protein.  The chemical compounds that make it protein to call it protein are, I'm assuming, the same:  if it wasn't, then it wouldn't be protein, it would be something else.  Clear as mud?  LOL   BUT, I have put my feelers out, if you will, to get this very question answered to see if cottage cheese might digest more in what little bit of small intestine we have, as opposed to chicken.    The fact that protein just needs a lot of enzymes, hours sitting in the chyme (this slurry of 'stuff' in our old stomachs) in order to break it down (which we no longer have) and then more time spent in the long length of small intestine (again, which is very greatly reduced for us), tells me that all protein would be created equal and none would truly digest in our new systems:  but I am doing more research to find out if this is 100% accurate for all protein types.    I'll certainly let you all know when I hear something concrete.  Until then, I err on the side of caution, based on the biology and the studies I have on hand, and say no - it does not absorb and drink the shakes.  As to why surgeons and nutritionists tell us to eat the protein first:  I have two theories on this.  #1:  the surgeons, at least, know next to nothing about nutrition.  This is the truth.  They have maybe one or two classes in med school on nutrition.  That's it.  You'd think they would be a little more on the ball about the mechanics of the post-op digestive system and how it functions so differently from the pre-op one; but apparently not.  I have discussed this at great length with my own doctor and he concurs with my research and findings and whole-heartedly agrees with me.  As do  many other physicians in this field, but obviously not all of them.  As for the nutritionists:  I believe that they are basing their training on a normal digestive system.  We aren't normal.  Those rules no longer apply.  New digestive system.  New rules.  But they are teaching what the surgeons tell them to teach.  The surgeon's have had no real nutritional training.  So it all seems a bit trial and error; and guess who the guinea pigs are?  The patients!!  Telling post-op patients to take Flintstones vitamins and drink Carnation Instant Breakfast (which is exactly what they told me to do!) is ridiculous!!  I'm not a 40 lb toddler, so why would I take a toddler vitamin?!   I've noticed surgeon's changing their post-op diet and nutrition protocols.  This is good!  But what about those post-op patients who fall through the cracks and either don't come back years down the road for follow-up care with their surgeon and they aren't given this new updated protocol on supplementing and all that.  This is one reason why support groups are so important.  Why getting your blood work checked at least every 6 months is so important.  #2:  eating protein foods gives us that satiated, full feeling longer and helps to avoid grazing, snacking and other bad habits from creeping back in.  Of course, drinking your protein shakes will also curb any cravings because you're actually absorbing the protein taken in, but the density of the solid food, and any calories or other nutrients possibly derived from it, are also reasons to eat protein foods. 

Hellooo Mo well I was layed off on wed due to not having any work at the moment suppose to go back on monday so I have been chilling in my house. finally put the snowmen away. I often leave them up late because they are a "winter" item but not this late! my son has been home on leave. he will leave at 4:30 am from Joplin....lol of course he sprang it on my last night that he would need a ride...probably at 3am because of all the protacall for those flying. so now do I take a nap or just stay up? Ill probably just stay up. cleaning out my work area. I have a small mini project in my mind waiting to get built. but my work space is a MESS  or I could read...just finished "The Body Farm". very good book and very interesting if you are into forinsics at all. my friends in Alabama sent me home with some of their books.  I had a small dumping episode today...this is weird...I eat the same thing each time we go but a few times I have dumped. its mexican..so I have the chips and salsa(ducking) and than I will have 1 cheese enchalada....Im real sure its a fat thing but I dont know why it only affects me sometimes???  I do know that fat content is as important to me in choosing stuff to eat as the sugar. if  Hey Tracy....I decided to post today because I wanted to let you know how much I am learning about the protien. I now know that I have not been getting ANY where the needed amounts. I have increased my drinks to 2 a day. along with the protien bars....tell me is the same said for them? that we are only getting about half of what the bars info say? and if I were to make Jans protien balls with the protien powder would I be getting more actual protien than in eating the bars?  I am very much interessted in learning how this all works. I feel I have given up ALOT for the regaining of Health and I want to do as much right as I can. plus I still have over 100 pounds I want to loose. also Bev...how lucky you can eat any chicken at this stage. wow I just recently was able to eat some chicken and some beef. going to try fish again this weekend as Dean has a hankering for some. but I have not had much luck with fish.or meats in general.  so maybe I have cheated myself out of weightloss and health. because I definatly can relate to Jan saying dense protien is not her friend.    I finally took my rings in to be sized. I hope I didnt get them to small....LOL I lost the ring band I wore around my rings..AGAIN so I went and looked in my jewlery box and there was my grans ring...I wore it as a pinky when my mom gave it to me....I wore it to wal-marts on my ring finger...to see what size it was...it was tight at a 6!!!! so my wedding band and diamond is going from an 11 to a 6.5 and my Sapphire is going from an 11 to a 7 to wear on the right hand.  my grans ring is old...her mother bought it from the rag man when my gran was 7 or 8 so I put it away and am now wearing my CLASS ring!....I have worn a ring for so long that I just cant stand not having one on...so I am wearing my class ring. I didnt have my mothers ring sized yet. I thought I would wait to see where my fingers are after the next 100lbs. I hope everyone has a great weekend! nutti

Hi Nutti Great job on your weight loss and losing those ring sizes!!  WOW!! Okay, my thinking on the protein bars and absorption {and like everything else, not everyone in the post-op WLS world agrees on this}:  it all depends.  How's that for an answer!    It depends on the protein used in the bar - if it's a pre-digested, good quality protein like found in the shakes, then I believe yes, we would absorb that, because it's already pre-digested.  However, like protein powders, not all protein bars are created equal. Some are nothing more than glorified (and expensive!) candy bars.