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Darla S.
on 12/13/11 11:01 pm, edited 12/13/11 11:18 pm - Maple Grove, MN
Topic: RE: lipozene or Jillian Michaels
Marsha, my love, the first thing you have to do is FORGIVE YOURSELF.

I'll wait.





Good?

Okay. You and I both have an idea of the kinds of stresses we've each been dealing with - and how easy it is to rely on our old friends, food and alcohol, to comfort ourselves. But what REALLY happens is we end up making ourselves feel bad - then we beat ourselves up WORSE! Because we gain weight, and because we know that catching a good buzz more than once in a while is especially dangerous, what with our increased susceptability to liver problems and cross-addiction.

So here's what I would challenge you to do. First off, I would bet if you can find a way to cut out the beer, or at least drastically cut down on the amount you drink, you will drop a surprising number of those pounds you've gained. It's evil **** - you know that.

Second - DON'T WAIT to get yourself back in the game! Why? Because if you just let yourself have a Holiday free-for-all, you're going to gain more, beat yourself up more, and possibly miss out on the GOODNESS of the season while doing so. Don't give yourself permission to circle the drain!

Take EVERY OPPORTUNITY to do the right thing for your WLS. It's hard - F'ing hard - but for every success you have? Every cookie or ****tail you pass up? YOU'LL FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF. YOU'LL BUILD MORE DETERMINATION TO STAY ON TRACK!! YOU'LL LOSE WEIGHT, AND THAT WILL HELP YOU RE-KINDLE YOUR DETERMINATION TO GET BACK DOWN TO 164 - or whatever goal you set for yourself!

So there ya go. That's my wish for you this Christmas, sweetie. Give yourself that gift! I love you - please don't hesitate to call, email or text me, K? I'm here for you

(Oh - and IMHO, bag the lipozene idea. That's not why you had WLS, so you could go back to trying fad, chemical, 'miracle' diets. Why spend precious $$ on another gimic?)


  Imperfect does not = unsuccessful

Paul H.
on 12/13/11 10:36 pm, edited 12/14/11 2:54 am - Eagan, MN
Topic: RE: lipozene or Jillian Michaels
 Marsha, you are preaching to the choir and there is a reluctance to post a remedy as we all are in a similar boat. Remember when you were estatic to reach "Wonderland!!!?" Now you are afraid of the same number. I will only give two items of note here.

1. Love yourself and find a different way to fill your emptiness.

2. Mindful eating starts today and not tomorrow. The  mañana  diet NEVER works.


     You aren't lost, you just wandered off course for a bit, get back on track TODAY!

Maybe this article could help:

http://health.yahoo.net/articles/weight-loss/photos/25-ways- cut-500-calories-day#0 
    55# Lost pre Surgery on 2/15/10, 100+ #  lost post surgery
      
vanish
on 12/13/11 9:47 pm - MN
Topic: RE: Another Monday rolls around--keeping it honest!
Hey Renee!  Did you get that stomach flu?  We did, it was hateful!

My freak out number is 120, so I get what you mean.  I had kidney stone surgery about 10 days ago and came home from the 2 days in the hospital at 126.5!  But then it went back down to 118, it was all fluids but it still freaked me out.

My big thing is I can't work out at all right now because of the stone, so I have to be really careful about what I'm eatting.  Not easy this time of year.

Just wanted to say hi!

Tess
 RNY 12/28/09 
                      
vanish
on 12/13/11 8:04 am - MN
Topic: RE: lipozene or Jillian Michaels
Hi Sarsha (big hug).  You shouldn't feel shame, you came on here and did a very difficult thing by making this post and I applaude your courage.  You realize that you need to make changes and that's a good thing.  Now the beer is NOT good.  I don't want you to damage your liver and end up sick or dead.  That worries me.  I would absolutley drink more than once in awhile if I could.  I feel like **** the next day even if I have just a little, not every time, but most.  I get what you are saying about it numbing your problems, I miss a good buzz  myself.  But please, please, please be careful.  It's a slippery slope.  I will cheer you on and help you in anyway that I can.  You know how to get ahold of me I think.  PM me if you  want.

You are a great gal Marsha, your wit and kindness drew me in right away.  I've not been around much either, but have thought about you and wondered how you were.

Get through the holidays and make the commitment to make the changes because you deserve it!

Tess
 RNY 12/28/09 
                      
Marsha F.
on 12/13/11 3:31 am
Topic: lipozene or Jillian Michaels

Hi everyone, I know it has been awhile since I have been on.  To be honest I am very ashamed to even be on here now.  I have gained alot of weight back.  I can't control myself right at the moment I always say I will start dieting on monday, then monday comes I'm good for a day or 2 then back to the same ole crap.  I really don't have that much support either, there are no support groups around here unless I come to the cities.  We have tried a few times to have coffee groups here but there is just not enough people.

I want to get back on track but am waiting till after the holidays.  I did join the gym this month so that's a start.  Have any of you tried after surgery lipozene, or any other jump start diet stuff?   I went from 300 lbs to 164 and currently I am at 199.  The more pissed off I get about it the more I eat.  Also, for about the last year i have been drinking beer, and sometimes lots of it.  It started out with drinking 1-2 and then gradually getting to be more and more.  Currently I have graduated to about 8-10 beers.  I feel so good when I drink all my worries and responsibilities go away, and I can let loose and be me.  I need to figure out how to do that with out the beer. 

I know I should quit with the excuses but I always have one.
I will be 5 years out in a couple days.  I know I can do it I just need that extra kick in the butt from you all.   So please feel free to help me out and let me have it.

For all you NEW ones I beg you NEVER NEVER let yourself get off track.  It is so easy to get off track and lose yourself.

Thanks,
Marsha

 
happy girl
on 12/12/11 9:25 am
Topic: RE: Dr. Dan Carey - Underwater Weighing
this is so sad.  I saw him as part of his project and he was very kind to me.


2003 RNY, 2007 Revision Distal RNY
April 17, 2009 ~ fleur de lis TT w/Muscle Repair, Medial Thigh Lift, Ventral Hernia Repair 


  

 

Julie6
on 12/12/11 6:53 am
Topic: RE: Another Monday rolls around--keeping it honest!
Good for your kick butt attitude.  Catch it while its just a couple lbs.  You h ave done wonderfully Renae. 
Julie Sadek    
callmeEJ
on 12/12/11 6:52 am - Minneapolis, MN
Topic: RE: Dr. Baker vs Dr. Ikramuddin
I have no comments on the VSG, but maybe a VSGer can weigh in on this.

-Does it seem drastic? Yes. But it has a proven track record. Best track record for weight loss and remission of type II diabetes. The malabsorption helps keep the weight loss more permanent (though it is possible to eat your way through a DS, just like it is possible to eat your way through a RNY, VSG, Band).

-I do take a lot of vitamins, but I do NOT spend $150 a month on them. I just recently did a re-stock on **6 months** of vitamins from Vitalady, I spent just over $300. I don't get all my vites from her, but I will probably drop another $50-100 for 6 months worth of the other vites I need. Considering how much I was paying on co-pays for prescriptions before I lost all my weight, it's money well spent. I probably drop about $30/month on protein supplements, but you may not consider that necessary until after you can get all your protein from food. I just like drinking protein shakes.
I do keep an 6-month stash of vites available, and since I am only 30-something, I havne't really given too much thought to being in the nursing time. I'm hoping I will be ok when the time comes, but only time will tell. There are elderly DS patients out there who are thriving, so I will cross my fingers that I'll get there, too.

-I have one BM a day. In the morning, when a first wake up, and in the privacy of my own home. Does it smell? Oh hell yes. But BMs from normal people smell, too, so... eh? Yes, mine smell kind of bad, but I have Ozium, I take Devrom if I am worried about exposing others to my BM smell (which has rarely happened). My BMs were a bit more frequent for my first 2 months, but that's because there's a bit of an adjustment period.
And my gas production is pretty much tied to my diet. If I eat too much sugar or white flour carbs, there is gas, and it does not smell pretty. I can eat moderate amounts of sugar and white flour carbs and be ok.

-I am only a year out,  I can't really answer the question about losing too much weight. I have seen a few people on the DS board talk about how they are losing too much weight, but it seems like most of them were lightweights to begin with.
There are also digestive enzymes (like Creon) that can be taken to slow down weight loss if it's really that drastic. But Dr. I cuts his common channel pretty conservatively (100 cm for all patients), so the chances of you losing too much weight are minimal.

As for losing weight the "old fashioned way" -- just how many diets have you been on in your lifetime? How many attempts have you made? I can give you a horrifyingly long list of things I have done in the name of losing weight. If diet and exercise eally word for everyone, there would be NO NEED for bariatric surgery at all. But it doesn't work for everyone... in fact, 95% of people who lost weight that way will gain at least some, if not ALL of it back.
I'll put it another way... if you had cancer, you'd get chemo and treatment, you wouldn't just hope that it'd go away, right? Obesity is not cancer, but there are tools and treatments for helping

If you are in the Twin Cities area, I stronly encourage you to come to one of our DS group meetings, meet with some other DSers. PM me w/ your email address and I can toss you an invite to our December and January meetings from Facebook. Also, get yourself on the DS board and read EVERYTHING.
-EJ
"If television's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up." -cat and girl

5'6" HW 325 / SW 317 / CW 214 / First Goal 190    |    Century Club 09/19/2011
nosnhojm
on 12/12/11 2:39 am
Topic: RE: Dr. Baker vs Dr. Ikramuddin
 Well, I think I need to start going to these information seminars and meeting the docs/teams.  I still have a lot of emotions and concerns regarding both DS and VSG procedures (RNY is officially out of my running):

DS:
- Seems drastic; they bypasss 5 feet of intestines.  Lots of potential complications.  I watched a video of a laproscopic DS and it kinda grossed me out.
- Taking so many vitamins; 15-20 @ $150/mo for the rest of my life.  I know it's stupid, but if I was shipwrecked or something and had no access to vitamins...I would die!  What about when I'm really old and in a nursing home...I'll be taking 30 pills a day (although without the surgery I likely wouldn't make it to a nursing home).
- More frequent/smelly bowel movements.
- Would loose too much weight?  I don't care about getting skinny, I just want to be healthy so that I can watch my daughter grow up.

VSG:
- No insurance coverege (I'm kinda doubting an appeal would work).
- Results not as "garunteed" long term; I may strech my pouch and regain the weight.
- Long term effects not well understood; not many years of data.
- Surgeon/staff may not have much experience with this proceedure; less helpful care/support.

Both:
- I'll have all this excess skin that is both astetically and functionally a burden.
- I've never had ANY surgery before; it kinda scares me.
- I'll have 6-8 laproscopic scars.
- Admitting to friends/family that I couldn't do it on my own.  My mom lost her weight the "old fashioned" way.
- Worried that it will change my personality.  When my mom lost her weight, she become somewhat self absorbed (much unlike how she used to be).

Sorry to vent my fears, but I'm sure you guys may have had some of the same ones.  Hopefully these information seminars will answer some of these questions and give me confidence  that this lifestyle would be right for me.
callmeEJ
on 12/12/11 1:07 am - Minneapolis, MN
Topic: RE: Dr. Baker vs Dr. Ikramuddin
I have heard a lot of wonderful things about Dr. Ikramuddin, and he has a great track record so far.

If you're right on the line for BMI, you may be able to appeal the >50 BMI requirement if they deny you on those grounds.
-EJ
"If television's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up." -cat and girl

5'6" HW 325 / SW 317 / CW 214 / First Goal 190    |    Century Club 09/19/2011
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