PNC Patients?
OK here goes...
Was anyone here having RNY done at PNC "forced" to go through a DBT class?
They are telling me they refuse to submit me to insurance until I complete DBT even though Im not in the least bit interested and actually quite unhappy about being made to do group therapy. It is uncomfortable for me, it makes me unhappy, and I dislike it for many reasons.
I DO go to individual therapy and have solid, stable med management for 7+ years and they know this and are still refusing me unless I do DBT.
This is making me really upset and I'm really stressed out about it. Isn't the point of the dietician and the education pre-op to help me learn about what I will need after surgery and how to treat my new body? Not to cause me more anxiety and stal my process.
Anyone want to chime in here?
Was anyone here having RNY done at PNC "forced" to go through a DBT class?
They are telling me they refuse to submit me to insurance until I complete DBT even though Im not in the least bit interested and actually quite unhappy about being made to do group therapy. It is uncomfortable for me, it makes me unhappy, and I dislike it for many reasons.
I DO go to individual therapy and have solid, stable med management for 7+ years and they know this and are still refusing me unless I do DBT.
This is making me really upset and I'm really stressed out about it. Isn't the point of the dietician and the education pre-op to help me learn about what I will need after surgery and how to treat my new body? Not to cause me more anxiety and stal my process.
Anyone want to chime in here?
Have you not already posted about this, because I was thinking you had and I asked the same question MNDane did...what is DBT?
Ultimately, you are a "candidate" whether you like it or not and a surgeon can refuse you for any number of reasons. If this surgeon/clinic is wanting you to take an additional step in the process and you feel it is unnecessary for whatever reason, you have a right as a patient to take your business elsewhere. PNC is not your only option, unless it comes down to an insurance coverage issue but even then, you usually have another option or two.
Ultimately, you are a "candidate" whether you like it or not and a surgeon can refuse you for any number of reasons. If this surgeon/clinic is wanting you to take an additional step in the process and you feel it is unnecessary for whatever reason, you have a right as a patient to take your business elsewhere. PNC is not your only option, unless it comes down to an insurance coverage issue but even then, you usually have another option or two.
I asked the same question about what it was. Seems to me that making this required is a bit of overkill. I think everyone should be evaluated individually for problems, not grouped into one thinking we all need therapy because we are (or were) fat. But if it's only a few sessions, I'd probably suck it up and go if I really wanted to go with PNC.
The power of Google helped with the definition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_behavior_therapy
The power of Google helped with the definition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_behavior_therapy
Lori J.
It's better to be imperfectly happy than perfectly unhappy. 
Requiring DBT - or any other kind of therapy pre-WLS - is highly uncommon.
For that reason, I would suggest you take a deep breath, and pay attention. The therapists are seeing something that concerns them, and they want you to get some help with it before they feel you are truly ready for WLS. PNC, and probably every other bariatric program out there, has performed WLS on people who WERE NOT mentally or emotionally ready, and those people blamed PNC for their post-op struggles. Had they been better prepared before surgery, they would have been more successful and struggled less AFTER surgery.
I have known a few people who have gone through DBT for various other reasons, and been extremely grateful for what they learned.
So that's the deal here, doing whatever it takes so that you are TRULY READY for WLS. This isn't a game, it's not some lose-weight-quick-and-then-you're-done kind of deal, it's a significant change in your relationship with food that, if you're going to do this right, is for the rest of your life.
Don't be angry, be receptive. It's worth whatever you have to go through to get it.
For that reason, I would suggest you take a deep breath, and pay attention. The therapists are seeing something that concerns them, and they want you to get some help with it before they feel you are truly ready for WLS. PNC, and probably every other bariatric program out there, has performed WLS on people who WERE NOT mentally or emotionally ready, and those people blamed PNC for their post-op struggles. Had they been better prepared before surgery, they would have been more successful and struggled less AFTER surgery.
I have known a few people who have gone through DBT for various other reasons, and been extremely grateful for what they learned.
So that's the deal here, doing whatever it takes so that you are TRULY READY for WLS. This isn't a game, it's not some lose-weight-quick-and-then-you're-done kind of deal, it's a significant change in your relationship with food that, if you're going to do this right, is for the rest of your life.
Don't be angry, be receptive. It's worth whatever you have to go through to get it.
Imperfect does not = unsuccessful
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on 8/1/10 10:58 am - Clear Lake, MN
on 8/1/10 10:58 am - Clear Lake, MN
Can your theripst write a letter stating that you don't need this DBT?
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