Gaining Ground Slowly

marymazilla
on 11/20/10 1:07 pm - GARDEN CITY, MI

My attempt of deciphering is in red and my final opinion is in blue.
Hope this helps. But  You WLS teams rules and guide lines are the golden rule and you should follow what they told you to do

One popular myth is that only 30g of protein can be absorbed and utilized at one time.15 While this is commonly found in both lay and some professional literature, no scientific studies to date have tested this claim, especially in the bariatric community. Arnal et al16 studied the effect of protein-pulse feeding (7% [~5g] dietary protein given at 800 8am, 79% [~55g] given at 1200 12, and 14% [~10g] given at 2000 8pm) versus protein spread-feeding (25% [~17.5g] dietary protein at each meal given at 8008am, 1200 12, 1600 4pm, and 2000 8pm) on protein retention in elderly patients (mean age 68±1 year).  They tested whether pulse feeding (A quantity of protein in one or two feeding) verses  spread feedings (same Quantities of protein spread out two 4 feedings) on patients approx. 68 yrs old.  Nitrogen balance was more positive with the pulse versus spread diet. Protein turnover rates were also higher with the pulse versus spread diet, due to higher protein synthesis. These authors concluded that a protein pulse-feeding pattern was more efficient than a protein-spread pattern in whole-body nitrogen retention. The testers felt that for those 68 and older the pulse-feeding Twice a day was more beneficial to that type patient

However, in young women (mean age 26±1 year), When testing Young Women approx. 26 yrs old. these protein feeding patterns did not have significantly different effects on protein retention. There was not big difference  in the retention of protein for the 26 yr. old women then the approx. 68 yr old.
17 These data refute the “30g myth."this data proved  false the 30g myth
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 These authors conclude that protein source, time of consumption, quantity, and composition are factors determining the effect of protein on short-term satiety and food intake in young men.
they resolved that protein source (type of protein), time of consumption, quantity, and composition are factors determining the effect of protein
However, more studies are needed to determine how ingested protein load predicts nitrogen balance outcomes, especially among those with varying types of weight loss surgery. They also feel more studies are need to know how the loads effect those with different types of surgery

Metabolic Rate
Understanding the body’s metabolic state is also important when supporting or refuting the “30g myth." Protein, whether from food or supplements, provides amino acids. An important concept in protein metabolism is the amino acid pool(s) that contain amino acids of dietary origin (food and supplemental), plus those contributed by the breakdown of body tissue. The amino acids comprising the pool(s) are used for synthesis of new proteins for growth and/or replacement of existing body protein, for production of important non-protein, nitrogen-containing components in the body; for oxidation as a source of energy; and/or for glucose, ketones, or fatty acid synthesis.3 The amount of amino acids determines how much of the protein and how fast it is absorbed into the body and each WLS persons amino chemical make up of amino's can vary

what I  understand it to say is
Whether you are 68 or 26 if you were required to get 70 grams of protein per day
 that  if you consume 7% (5g)of your daily requirement  at 8am
79%(55g) at 12 o'clock and 14 %(10g) at 8 pm, your protein need will be more satisfied then if you consumed 25% (17.5g) of your daily protein at 8 am,12pm, 4pm and 8pm. And these findings prove the 30 gram myth to be wrong because of the one 55gram feeding at noon. And the amount of absorption depend on more factors then just the amount of protein you ingest in one feeding. these factors include  the type of protein and amino acids and how the patients amino's chemically respond to the nutritional values of the patient. And determining the limits for the amount of protein that can be absorbed is better determined on each WLS patients individual data for that particular feeding.


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grannymedic1
on 11/19/10 6:31 am - Lake Odessa, MI
Revision on 08/21/12
Go to My OH, and choose health tracker. Enter your weight and any thing else you want. Then hit Tickers and Widgets. Follow the prompts for that.. You will need to enable it before it will show up. Good luck, they are fun to play with. Glad all is going so well since surgery. It gets easier by the day, now. Sue

                    

Highest weight: 212.8 Current weight 135 Lost 77.8 pounds

    

Mary Carpenter
on 11/20/10 2:01 am - Holland, MI
Sue, thanks for showing me where and how to setup the health tracker.
Mary

grannymedic1
on 11/21/10 8:36 pm - Lake Odessa, MI
Revision on 08/21/12
You're welcome. It took someone showing me, too. I'm still not clear on how to do something more advanced.

                    

Highest weight: 212.8 Current weight 135 Lost 77.8 pounds

    

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