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kajunblues
on 10/13/10 2:07 am - Wayne, MI

Hey Ya'll....

Can someone tell me where to find a copy of the 5 day test. I have gained 30 pounds since March. Ilost 10 pounds when I was off work after my cancer surgery. Well now I have gained that back plus 20 more......I need some serious help...and a kick in the butt. ...I have to do something..........................   

Kajun
Pat R.
on 10/13/10 3:24 am - Sturgis, MI
Just google "Five Day Pouch Test"......it should come up!

Good luck.

 
 


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elm62
on 10/13/10 12:16 pm - Clarkston, MI

Have you put carbs (damn devil food) back in your diet???  I find the more carbs I eat the more I want.  Damn white stuff!  I think I have to pull away from them, then maybe I can control my urges more, dunno.

Good luck to both of us.

Edie

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kajunblues
on 10/14/10 1:48 am - Wayne, MI
Hey Edie....  Good luck to both of us.....Yea, I have been eating a lot of carbs, seems like that is what I reach for when I get stressed.....

Lianne sent me the link to the 5 day pouch test...I printed some recipes out and I am going to have my hubby cook them for me for dinner.
Kajun
Lianne C.
on 10/13/10 3:26 pm - Garden City, MI
http://www.5daypouchtest.com
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kajunblues
on 10/14/10 1:54 am - Wayne, MI
Hi Lianne, Thank you so much for the information. It was kind of strange seeing your name in the email, my daughters name is Liane....I see you are in Garden City. We could be neighbors, I am in Wayne...Once again thanks..I am going to try and kick this thing in the butt and get going again. It has been a long time for me. This Nov. 4th will be 8 years for me....
Kajun
Lianne C.
on 10/14/10 1:58 am - Garden City, MI
Hey after 8 years and 30 lbs, count yourself blessed! I am really worrying but I am gaining for a reason. Even though it is 15lbs, I am scared!
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marymazilla
on 10/14/10 5:55 am, edited 10/14/10 6:04 am - GARDEN CITY, MI
5 Day Pouch Test Days 1 and 2 :Liquid Protein low-carb protein shakes, broth, clear or cream soups, sugar-free gelatin and pudding. The first two days are all liquids. You can have as many low-carb protein shakes as you like to satisfy hunger or cravings. In addition drink at least six 8-ounce glasses of water each day. The purpose of all liquids is to break any snacking, grazing or processed carbohydrate habits. In addition the liquids will work to cleanse your system and prepare you for the following three days. Try to reduce your caffeine intake as well, but do not stop caffeine cold turkey or you will feel sick and frustrated potentially losing the desire to continue with the pouch test. It is very important to drink a minimum of 64 ounces of water each day. This will prevent dehydration, will help curb cravings and will flush your body of toxins and fat. Sufficien****er intake improves kidney function and cell processes.   Day 3: Soft Proteins The next three days you get to eat as much as you want as often as you want! Ahhh, but there's a catch: it has to be solid protein and you only get 15 minutes each time you sit down to eat. No drinking 30 minutes before or after meals and no drinking with your food. A dry pouch will hold your soft protein longer helping your to feel full and fed longer. Protein Recommendations: canned fish (tuna or salmon) mixed with lemon and seasoned with salt and pepper, eggs cooked as desired seasoned with salt pepper and/or salsa, fresh soft fish (tilapia, sole, orange roughy), baked or grilled, and lightly seasoned. This starts your program with "soft" protein. Measure your portion (1 cup volume or 4-6 ounces weight) and eat only until you feel full, not overfull. Remember, no water for 30 minutes before or after you meal, and no fluids with your meal. We are going back to the beginning and fluids will prevent you from feeling the pouch. If you need to add a moist condiment ( Miracle Whip or mayonnaise) to the canned fish I understand, but keep it to a minimum so the meat is not too moist. One reason we lose the sense of tightness in our pouch is that we eat "slider foods" - foods that are too moist and do not stay in the pouch very long, they slide right through the stoma.   Day 4: Firm Protein Protein Recommendations: ground meat (beef, turkey, lamb) cooked dry and lightly seasoned, shellfish, scallops, lobster steamed and seasoned only with lemon, salmon or halibut steaks, grilled and lightly seasoned. By now you should be experiencing that familiar tightness that will reassure you that your pouch is working. Remember to drink plenty of water between meals. Take some time to meditate and rediscover the wonder of your pouch. Often we don't like that uncomfortable tightness of the pouch, which is why we gradually move toward slider foods that don't make us uncomfortable. It is always my preference to eat moist protein so I don't get uncomfortable, but doing so allows me to consume more than I should. Rediscovering the pouch with this 5-day plan reminds me of how the tool really works. I hope by now you are rediscovering your tool and enjoying the hope and excitement because your pouch still works. Day 5: Solid Protein  Protein Recommendations: white meat poultry cooked dry and lightly seasoned, beef steak (if tolerated) grilled or broiled. Remember to chew chew chew. Measure your portion (4-6 ounces) and eat only until you feel your pouch tighten. Remember, only 15 minutes per meal, so you'll have to work fast to chew your food completely. By now you should be out of any carb cycle you were in and perhaps you have lost a pound or two. You will have new confidence in your pouch and your ability to work the tool for your health and emotional well being.      

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Pam T.
on 10/15/10 1:46 am - Saginaw, MI
 Try this:

Back to Basics Guidelines

1. First, find a good in-person LOCAL SUPPORT GROUP and then … never miss a meeting. Make it a priority, put it on the calendar and don't let other stuff interfere with this important part of being successful. Statistics show that patients who attend in-person support group meetings have a higher rate of long term success in maintaining their weight loss.

2. BACK TO BASICS -- you know the rules, you know how to use your tool, so do it.

  • Protein first and always (80-100g/day). 
  • Moderation with carbs (no white stuff - focus on veggies, fruit and whole grains to get your carbohydrate needs of about 40% of your total daily calories ... and remember to get enough fiber to keep the digestive tract working properly)
  • Get enough good fats in your diet.
  • Be sure your meals are dense, not sliders. Soft foods will slide straight through your pouch and leave you hungry sooner. Dense food can stay in your pouch for up to 2 hours or until you start drinking water again. Try a meal with 5oz grilled chicken breast and a side salad. 
  • Get all your water each day - 64oz min
  • No drinking with meals or for 30-90 minutes after meals
  • Track every morsel of food that passes your lips. You can't know how to adjust your intake unless you know where you are starting from. Figure out where your calories need to be and stick to it 90% of the time. Studies show that people who track calories lose twice as much as those who don't. 
  • Plan your meals and eat on a schedule. I still follow the hour-by-hour schedule that I received in pre-op nutrition class before surgery. 3 meals, 3 snacks pre-planned and eaten at specific times during the day and water intake between to curb hunger and grazing tendencies. 
  • Be a religious fanatic about your vitamins and supplements.
  • Exercise your butt off. If you're not sweating like a pig, you're not working hard enough.
3. BREAK THE STALL -- If the scale has stopped moving - if you're in the midst of a plateau - make sure you review the list of questions to ask yourself to "Break a Stall".     4. BE SURE YOU'RE HEALTHY -- If you haven't had labs drawn recently then get that done. Here's a list.Some vitamin deficiencies can actually cause weight gain or make the scale stop moving, so eliminating that as a culprit is important.  And most importantly, make sure you're taking your vitamins. If you're not sure what to take, check out page 7 of the ASMBS Bariatric Nutrition report - this is where you need to start with the base vitamins, and adjust your doses once you get your lab results back. Also take a close look at your medications list - might any of those be causing weight problems? 

6. LEAN ON OTHERS for support when you're not strong enough to do it on your own. Eventually you will become strong enough and then you can be the support person that someone else relies on down the road. Find inspiration where ever you can and hold onto it as you grow stronger. The Nike "I Can" commercial is a good place to start for inspiration.

7. GET HELP -- if you need to deal with the "mental crap" (as I call it) -- the emotional struggles that we all face of food addiction and disordered eating and figuring out how to create a healthy relationship with food, then make an appointment with a therapist. A psychologist recommended by your surgeon's office is often the best resource - someone trained to work with weight loss surgery patients. You don't have to do it on your own.
  8. YOU CAN DO HARD THINGS -- you're worth the effort it takes to be healthy, happy and strong. Believe in yourself.  And remember the words of Winston Churchill:  "Never ever ever give in. Never give up."  You CAN do this. You can do hard things.

~Pam

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Jani
on 10/19/10 8:56 pm - Interlochen, MI
I haven't been on OH in quite some time.  I see you're having trouble with carbs.  I am too, but I haven't gotten to the real gaining yet.  If I gain 3# I buckle down and lose them again.  I watch the scale a few times a week, and it seems to be working for me.  I do love the carbs tho.  I've only been out 15 months, so kudos to you for the 8 year mark.  I hope to walk the straight line for the rest of my life, but we all know it's going to be a bumpy road.
Hope you're doing well and cancer free.  Take care now.
Jan
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