reaction to sugar???

scribblekh
on 8/17/09 7:48 am - Auburn Hills, MI
hi everyone.. have a question.. i have never been much of a sugar person, thankfully.. i did have a bit today and was a bit nervous about how my new body would respond... nothing.. nothing! at all happened.. i thought i was supposed to dump?  is it normal that some people react and other's don't? 

Also, I am 7 weeks out and seem to be somewhat intrested in food.. very very mild hunger.. whereas before, I couldn't care less about food... so much for it taking 6-9 months?  Again, all you pro's out there.. is this normal as well?

i'm happy with my success so far.. almost at 50# for 7 weeks out.. yipee...:)  thanks again for your input..

katie
Brenda M.
on 8/17/09 7:51 am - Westland, MI
Unfortunately, it's very normal.
I don't dump....and I'm hungry all the time.   That started at about 3 months out.

scribblekh
on 8/17/09 7:58 am - Auburn Hills, MI
3 months out?  so what on earth made you so lucky to get that bonus?  what does your doc say is the reason for it?
Brenda M.
on 8/17/09 8:13 am - Westland, MI
Katie,
It seems to be pretty random.  
I haven't had much success talking to my doc about the issue....I kind of feel like they don't believe me?  When I went to my 3 year appointment and told the PA that I can eat A LOT of food and not feel full, he just kind of laughed and said "How much is a lot?"  

You are in a great position now because you can recognize what's going on.  I find it's easier to pretend that you are going to dump.  That will save you some heartache in the future....when you can eat just about anything.  You'll have to follow the "get your protein first' rule.  That will keep you fuller longer.

Also, one more warning....I have learned this from talking to a lot of people that don't dump.  I can sit here and eat a whole bag of sugar and never feel anything.  I have sampled everything out there and most things don't do anything to me.  But there are some things...(a bowl of Lucky Charms) that make me feel like I'm going to die.  Just be careful and do everything in moderation.  That is the key to keeping your weight off and not accidentally finding the one thing that will make you dump and be really, really sick.


tunafish88
on 8/17/09 8:24 am - Chelsea, MI
It's very hit or miss for me as to what makes me dump.  I didn't dump on anything until I was 18 months out or so and it wasn't because I didn't have sugar until then.  Sometimes, I get really upset that I can eat sugar, but then again other times, I'm glad I can have a little and be OK.  So, I take dumping with a grain of salt.  Plus I find sometimes, it's worse when I eat sugar on an empty stomach.  It's not that I sit around and eat sugar all the time, either, but if I want to have some, I will...just in very small amounts. 

As far as the hunger pangs...well, I think as the nerves heal, you'll still feel hunger.  That's one thing that took a very long time to come back and rarely do I ever feel TRUE hunger.  I'm more apt to feel light headed or something like that, if I've gone too long without food than I am to feel hungry. 





 

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Robin
on 8/17/09 8:47 am - Walled Lake, MI
Katie,

I am 6 years post-op and  I was afraid to eat any sugar until last year.  It seems that certain yogurts make me dump big time and its a terrible feeling. I try and eat my protein first. Bread pasta and rice are also no-no's for me.  I know many people can eat them and have no problems, for me.... I get sick.

I did try a few M&M's  and that was a HUGE mistake, I was sick for hours.  Best of luck and congrats on your weight loss

Robin
saxman007
on 8/17/09 2:08 pm - Port Huron, MI
I don't think I've EVER felt full :(  it's just not something I've learned yet and being 2 years post-op I don't expect it to happen soon.  Seems like I've got to deal with 'feedback', as my surgeon's office so politely called it, at least every other month or so.  I guess the nice thing is after I start to feel that bloated feeling I've learned I can speed things up and NO I'm not becoming bulimic, lol.
I think I started to get 'hungrier' around 2 months so I think you're pretty normal.  I was still very much into making sure I was eating 5 times a day (not an easy thing to do) and journaling all of my food intake.  If I felt hungrier I tried to drink more water.
Sugar, I'm pretty sure I've said it to you but STAY AWAY FROM IT!!!!  Just don't go there.  Think about everything that you've gone through.  If you COULD control your cravings and eat normal portions you wouldn've had to have surgery.  Take this time to try to really re-learn those eating skills that are truly normal to how the human race was designed to live off from!  
I've had one pseudo dumping syndrome and that happened 2 weeks ago.  I had and rootbeer float on the last day of my band camp.  It had been a great week, but they're always stressful and I got I believe 15-18 hours total for the 5 days so I caved in and took it.  I don't know if was from that or from eating too much too quick but I was in pretty bad shape.  I vomited twice and  if I wasn't at camp with 400 parents coming for a performance I would've collapsed in bed and enjoyed my misery in private.  
So I got the RNY thinking/hoping for the dumping syndrome so it'd kick my a$$ every time I got off track.  At first I was upset that I didn't dump, now I'm grateful.  I've had need, yes need to chug 40 ounces of gatorade due to low blood sugar.  While I'm exercising I can take almost any sugary food out there (including M&M's which are such a treat during the Detroit Marathon).  I'm not sure if it'd be different outside of exercising, I doubt it but I just don't trust myself enough to try to find out.
Don't know if this helps or not, didn't mean to carry on or preach so much!
--Sax

justjudy
on 8/17/09 10:45 pm - Canton, MI
I am a bandster and we generally don't dump, so I have no advice. But sometimes I wish dumping was an option, since my sweet tooth is still intact.  If it weren't for volume and consistency restrictions with my band, I would be in big trouble. Fortunately, even ice cream can cause a "stuck" episode if I eat too fast.

Judy
            

Pam T.
on 8/17/09 11:58 pm - Saginaw, MI
A couple things...

** Only about 40% of RNY'ers actually have dumping syndrome with a low threshold of sugar tolerance.  Even though I dump on large amounts of sugar (over 30g-ish) I consider myself a non-dumper. 

** At 7 weeks out you probably don't have the pouch capacity to eat enough to get the sugar amount necessary to dump.  Some people dump on less than 10g of sugar, but that's pretty rare, it's usually closer to 12-15g.  For instance one package of Reese's Peanut Butter Cups (2 pieces per package) is only 16g of sugar.

** hunger is very individual.  It usually takes 3 months to 18 months for those nerves to regenerate and start working again.  For some it's faster, for some it never happens.  Hunger can be a mental thing or even a habit thing (If I eat every day at 3pm, my body knows it's 2:45 and starts giving me signals that it's almost feeding time) or a true physical hunger.  It's really hard to tell the difference and sometimes we can never really tell which is which.

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