Monday Morning cup of Joe!!!

Good Morning Michigan, Hope everyone had a great weekend ? There some of us that have today off to.. It's super cold and a Big Snow Storm coming in this week. 5-10 inch's by Thursday morning. I'm drinking my old stand by . I Took the  DW coffee this morning. What's in your cup this AM?

The Q for the day...........Why do some people still gain weight even after WLS?

For Me....I've seen people that have had WLS and loss weight. Fail only to gain all there weight back and then some. There is ways to do it and they have broken all the WLS rules to gain it back...

                           Have a great day !!!

Hi Randy,
Yep, it was a nice weekend.  My strawberry pretzel dessert was a flop.  My family does not like anything sugar free.  So, I ate most of it.  Which brings me to your question.... I gain weight from eating what my family refuses to eat!!!!

As far as me pointing out why OTHERS fail?  You will NEVER ever see me doing that Randy.  Its condescending and also not very wise.  We all have failure, different degrees of it.  I do not judge or point out these failures.  Just my two cents.

If you don't look at why other fail then it opens the door for you to fail. This is not a cure to our weight loss it is a tool. We as people have to use this tool or it will fail us also. It was not asked to be anything but a learning tool for all of us ....
sorry if it hurts anyone

Randy,
We were all given the How to Succeed Pamphlet.  We know what makes us successful.  We know what makes us fail.  We all know to Follow the Rules of the Pouch/Band.  But dont forget.  Its in the eye of the beholder.  what YOU consider a 'failure' can also be measured as a Success to the individual living it.   Though I appreciate what you are saying Randy, I just don't agree with it.  I prefer to aproach my tool through success.  I look to see how other SUCCEED rather than Fail.  I guess I am more of a glass half full type of person.

If we all knew why we fail or why others fail, AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT, we wouldn't have needed surgery in the first place.  Yes, it's a tool, but just like anything else, we're all different people.  We all come from different places.  We all have different issues and experiences.  It's nobody's else's place to look at me and try to figure out why I've gained weight in the past (aside from being pregnant).  Just as I would never presume to know why YOU or ANYONE else has gained weight.  I have enough to worry about without worrying about what others are doing.  It doesn't affect me directly.  With my friends, I listen, I support and I also feel like I can be myself in front of them without them judging me for what I may or may not eat or drink.  

Hi Boxermom - 

I'm a support group leader for my local group.  But I'm also an active part of OH, which is just another form of a support group.  I attend local support groups and come to OH to receive the support I need to be a success.... but I also am active in both to provide support to others.  I feel it is my responsibilty, as a fellow WLS'er,  to guide people in the direction of success.  If I see someone acting in a way that will sabatoge their success ... and bring on failure ... I will lovingly and compassionately point it out to them.  Not in a judgemental way, but in a way that will help them with their own success.  

In the same vein... if I'm doing something to sabatoge my own success, I would expect my WLS Support Circle (that includes you, Boxermom) to point it out to me and help me get back on the path that will lead to my success.  

For instance, I have my FitDay food journal made public.  My friends (or the whole world) can look at what I eat everyday.  I've told my friends that if they EVER see chips and salsa on my food log they have permission to kick my ass to hell and back.  And I expect that to happen.  My food journal is the place where I am the most honest with myself.  I don't lie there.  Every morsel of food that passes my lips is on that log.  So by making it public I'm inviting the support I need from others. 

Yes, we all know the "Rules of the Pouch" ... or "how to be successful" ....  but a lot of times our own mental and emotional issues get in the way of following those rules. I'm the queen of justifying bad behavior.  Sometimes we might just need a nudge in the right direction from someone who cares enough about us to keep us on the right path.  It's not about judging the other person, it's about helping them achieve their goals.  If you're screwing up and I can see that and you can't... I'm not going to pat you on the head and tell you it's alright... I'm going to help you recognize the self sabatoge and help you get back on the right path. But I'm going to do it because I care about YOUR success just as much as I care about my own success. 

We're all in this thing together.  We don't have to walk this journey alone.  Sometimes leaning on others for a little while makes us stronger. 

I agree with you that we can't define "success" for each other.  But we can take each person's own definition of success and help them achieve it.  That's what a support circle is for, in my opinion.  

Pam

Morning MI and Randy!

My cup has my old standby, too. Dunkin' decaf w/skim milk. Sorta boring.

I can't speak as to why other people gain weight after WLS, but I can tell you what my nemesis is.  It's all in my head.  I know my trigger foods, the foods that soothed my soul before surgery and I have to stay away from them or the old habits sneak back in.  I recently bought a box of low fat Wheat Thins, a favorite.  It's always been easy to overeat on these and last night I chowed down way more than I should have. I paid for it, too.  I hesitated in the grocery store while looking at them on the shelf, so I learned that if I hesitate, it's best for me not to buy these foods, period.

It's hard to break old habits, it's a struggle sometimes not to eat the "old" way; to retrain my brain that I don't need to shovel food into my mouth to feel good. Last night was my first regretful meal and I don't want to go there again. 

Maybe that's the way it is with other people. Old habits die hard.  One slip leads to another and then you just give up. 

Elaine 
  

Waiting for my coffee to finish brewing.  I'm off this week for winter break (YAY!).  I'm eating an orange while I wait.  Did the dishes and started the laundry.  Yesterday was a VERY restful day....no chores!  Last night I made steak, baked potatoes and fresh asparagus for dinner.  It was SO good. I haven't been able to eat much meat, plain, by itself since getting pregnant, but last night's steak was melt in your mouth!  I'm looking forward to the rest of my dinner for lunch. LOL!  

I'm painting this week.  My family ditched me this weekend because of the weather on Saturday, so now I'm determined to get this room finished and put together before next weekend!

OMG!  I had 3 protein shakes this morning.  It was crazy!  Started out with a Protein Hot Chai Tea.  Then worked on craft projects with my mom.  Then we experimented with choclate protein shakes for her and with all the sips and taste tests, I estimate I had another full shake.  Then she wanted to try my Chai Tea and I had to make another one... she had 2 sips and I drank the rest.  So before noon I already had 90g of protein in!  My tummy is full!

QOTD -- people regain weight because they don't make the permenant lifestyle changes with their eating ... fall back into old habits ... graze on high calories foods .... drink with meals ..... don't exercise .... and ignore the WLS rules.   It could be one of those things or all of them together.  This isn't a diet that we're on until we lose weight, then we're off the diet.  Obesity is a chronic disease that must be treated with diligent lifestyle changs that last the rest of our lives.  If we don't deal with the mental side of it, it's not going to work.  

On rare occassions, the regain can be attributed to a mechanical failure of the surgery itself.  But that's rare. 

Hi All,

What's in my cup? Isopure protein mixed with apple juice!

QOTD ~ I must agree with some of the other post.......it's a total lifestyle change and your "mind" must be changed as well.

Have a great Monday!!!