Feeling defeated after 3 mo. app't

ryntra
on 11/28/07 8:42 am - Grand Rapids, MI
I went to my 3 mo. check and the nut gave the overview of what we can/cannot eat. The big change is no fluid with calories (including soup, milk, juice, sf ice cream, smoothies, protein drinks, etc).....so here's my question/confusion....if surgery is a tool to assist us in making better choices, etc. then how can we be forbidden to eat normally?? 

I feel like I am being set up for failure. It just seems like they concentrate so much on the weight loss (duh--I know--but I feel like my health is being compromised because I do not get any real nutrients unless by pill). Then I felt somewhat normal at the 6 week check because I was given to OK to try anything and now I can't have any fluids with calories??? How is this realistic in the long run?? 

I am learning to deal with my food issues and am learning how to make better choices....but how will I maintain the weight loss?? because I know that I will not be able to deal with all the restrictions on a long term basis. I'm scared that the surgery was just for naught and be another failed attempt???



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(deactivated member)
on 11/28/07 10:28 am, edited 12/28/07 1:25 pm - Denver, CO
Hi Ryntra I am a couple of months further out than you, and also a patient of Dr. Foote.  NUTs are giving us good guidelines, and we all also learn a lot on this site from the experiences of our friends who have traveled the road before us and with us  Good luck to you!   Don't get discouraged!  You have a great weight loss so far!
ryntra
on 11/28/07 10:56 am - Grand Rapids, MI

Thank you for the response and encouragement. You are right--each nut is different. The nut who did the meeting I was at did not say we could have soup with crackers!! It's frustrating when the advice we get from our own doctor's office differs depending on who does the class. One of the people in the group explained how she was having difficulty with eating solid foods and used protein drinks to ensure she was getting enough protein. The nut told her to stop immediately. When it was brought up that she had to do what she had to do...she then went on about how we got ourselves into this situation so we have to follow the new rules. I found her very condescending. But enough about that... I just don't want this to turn into what every diet in the past has ended up like--complete failure. I am learning to eat differently and I have decided to use the nut's instruction as a guideline and to find out what works for me. My fear is if I disallow these foods (mainly soup, milk, protein drinks) then if/when I began having these during maintenance then I would begin gaining weight making the surgery futile.

Thanks again for the support :-)



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Judy G.
on 11/28/07 10:26 pm - Galion, OH

HI....WHAT NANCY SAID IS ALL TRUE...YOU CAN HAVE SOUPS AND PROTEIN DRINKS...BUT DO SO IN MODERATION OR YOU WILL BE GRAZING AND THATS WHAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO DO!!! HAVE YOU TRIED THE PROTEIN BARS YET? THEY ARE A GOOD WAY TO GET IN SOME SOLID PROTEIN AND KEEP YOU FROM BEING HUNGRY SOON AFTER EATING IT.

GOOD LUCK AND CONGRATS ON YOUR NEW LIFE!!!

HUGS


ryntra
on 11/29/07 6:25 am - Grand Rapids, MI

I actually do eat protein or granola bars and I usually only have a protein drink before I work out (I go at 6am and cannot fathom eating solid foods at that time!)..that really isn't the issue...I just felt like the rules are setting me up for failure. I understand that they want us to learn to make better choices and that liquids pass through quickly and does not satisfy...but I just feel like they are forbidding certain foods rather than allowing us to make the decision--such as having them in moderation. 



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Judy G.
on 11/29/07 10:22 pm - Galion, OH

YOU DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!!! LISTEN TO WHAT JENN JUST POSTED TO YOU....GOOD LUCK!!!

HUGS


Jenn F.
on 11/29/07 2:35 am - Lansing, MI
I also go to MMPC.  I was just there on November 1st for my one year check up.  The dietician yelled at me because I still have a protein shake for breakfast.  It keeps me satiated until lunch time.  Obviously after having lost almost 180 pounds, I've figured out what works for me, even if it's not within her guidelines. Unfortunately, these dieticians cannot give you advise that is not in their manual.  If you ask them something not in their book, they panic.  I have a hard time listening to someone who has never been where we have been. Listen to your body.  If you notice that after you eat something liquid, you are still hungry, then by all means, stop the liquid calories.  Every one of us is different and we all just need to figure out what works best for our bodies. Good luck to you!  You are doing excellent! Jenn
ryntra
on 11/29/07 6:31 am - Grand Rapids, MI

I also agree about them not being where we have been. In fact, in the meeting a person stated she was having trouble with solid foods and was taking protein drinks as a way to get in her protein until it is resolved and she was told to stop. Another person stated that she needed to do what she needed to do and the dietician stated "you're the ones who got yourselves into this situation" and that we basically needed to follow all the guidelines. I found it very condescending.

Anyway, I appreciate your support and advice. I will use the guidelines as exactly that and tweak it to work for me!

Congrats on your success by the way! I hope I can be as successful!



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Full of Life
on 11/29/07 10:47 pm - Broken Arrow, OK
In my personal oppinion - the things that the nuts tell us to do and dont do are just "generalities". In "general" people who drink protein drinks MAY not be full and eat more and hense not lose weight/gain weight. But what I found out (the hard way) is that I'm not "general" I'm me and my body DEMANDS what it needs.  I've learned to listen to my body and give it what it needs. When I was getting 60 grams of protein a day (using protein drinks) my labs sucked! They kept going lower and lower, but my docs said I was doing great because I followed their "rules". Well, those rules almost killed me!!! My body demands 100 grams of protein per day, and I'm NOT an athlete or an extreme exercise preson. It's just what my body needs to stay healthy. I give it what it needs. If that means doing two protein drinks per day then so be it!!!  As time goes on, you'll learn what your body is demanding. Do what it needs and you'll be fine. You're NOT a failure at wls!!!!!!!! Did you hear me??? You are NOT a failure. I'm 2.5 years out now, and I eat a pretty normal diet now.  Yesterday, we went to Bob Evans. I had a salad with extra cheese and bacon, cottage cheese, pot roast, and banana bread. The salad, I mostly ate the toppings with a little lettuce. I ate about 1/3 of the cottage cheese and I age about 3 oz of pot roast. The banana bread, I ate 3/4 of one piece and gave the rest away. I think that is a fairly normal meal for a post wls patient. Some would say, "OMGSH - you ate banana bread!!" To them I say - HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!  Yes I did and enjoyed every single bite!!!!!  Don't let your food changes get you down. It really does get better after a few more months.  HUGS

Laurie
I can do all things through CHRIST who strengthens me

 

RNY 5-19-05      
hernia repair/tt 4-10-06
BW: 262 lbs     GW: 140 lbs     CW: 126 lbs

5 Day Pouch Test Graduate!!! I lost 5 pounds and feel GREAT

ryntra
on 11/30/07 9:04 am - Grand Rapids, MI
Thank you Laurie! I needed to hear that! Sometimes all the information can be overwhelming and it does seem like a "one size fits all" kind of thing....but we ARE all individuals. Your reassurance means a lot!



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