WLS Mythbuster time!

kevphill
on 11/27/06 7:31 am - MI
I only know people. And besides, nobody around here ridicules you,,,, as far as you know. BB
Judy G.
on 11/22/06 12:22 pm - Galion, OH
AMEN JON!!! AMEN!!!!
Jay K.
on 11/22/06 2:41 pm - Madison Heights, MI
Happy Thanksgiving Jon. I hope you and your family have a wonderful day. I know i plan to as i have much for which to be thankful. Life's been good here in Michigan.
PATT
on 11/22/06 7:59 pm - Durand, MI
Jon you are so correct. Problem is another piece of this puzzle also slips in and that is depression. It's such a vicious cycle that once we get caught up in that it's so hard to see the reality. So may people think depression is only manifested in the severist form. But it is insedious and sneaks up on you. Sort like a functioning alcoholic. They still get up go to work every day but abuse alcohol after work, on the weekends etc. In fact your words are some that are the mantra of AA, Alanon, Weigh****chers and any other reputable self-help group. So the next question is how does one break the cycle? Again you said it so well. Come to the table openly and honestly. We need to be ready to hear things we may not like to hear. We need to be ready to accept the responsiblity we all have in this. Some of us get it quicker than others though. Some need to hear this with some sugar instead of cold hard facts. You men are so good at laying it all out with, as Elliot Ness said "Just the facts, nothing but the facts". We females sometimes, most times, need the feel good emotions inserted amoung the facts is all. And I think that is the cruzx of this. It isn't so much what is being said as opposed the HOW it is said. Doesn't lessen the accuracy of your comments just a different approach. I for one am so glad we have each and everyone of us to balance this all out. Kind of like a home. When you have both parents who are emotionally healthy to parent.. well it balances it all out. So thank you Jon. Your post is certainly dead on accurate. Let's also not forget the nurturing side is needed and so perhaps we gals need to step up to the plate and do more of that for those who are struggling and for ourselves too. Our ultimate goal is to be successful right? So let's all do what it takes to help everyone one of us be successful. But in the end it is indeed our own individual process and no one can do it but us individually.
Toni R
on 11/24/06 8:58 am - sebewaing, mi
Well said... You nailed it on the head. First of all the issue of depression, as well as food addiction are major culprits but we need to recognize it. You said everything Jon did but with the women's touch. Yes, the guys are right, but being guys they communicate on a totally different level then we do. I can't believe how men talk to each other and still call each other "Friend"....lol We women would be bringing the claws out. Sometimes I think that men tend to think it is macho to poke fun at others weakness' ( I am NOT refurring to anyone per say.)...It is just an observation I have seen thru out my life. Thank you for pointing this out in your post. You see until you are at 3+ yrs out no one will really understand. It weird but if feels like all bets are off when you hit it. If it where just me that felt this way, I would think it was "JUST ME" but, it's not. I am sure there are some out that that MAY not have to eventurally struggle but I am sure they are few and far between. I just hope the newbies see what is going on and take advantage of the warnings they are getting and get help NOW! I wish manditory counceling for emotional eating would become a part of the wls programs. If only we where prive to the info and knowledge of ones who came before us, we may not be having these issues now. Not saying that wls hasn't been around for years, what I am saying is we are the trailblazers of the great movement in wls, when I started there where no long term statistics, only thing we had to go on was what our program of choice told us would happen. As much as I loved my surgeon, we didn't have ANY long term support, nutritionist, or even a hand book to go by. The only info we got was at the seminar and of course what we could teach each other here, but that was very minimal to say the least. I just hope the newbies will learn from us then maybe this struggle will be worth it. God Bless Toni
Karen53
on 11/27/06 1:09 am - Roseville, MI
Toni - - That's why I come to this web-site just about every day. I NEED to learn from the experiences of others. Thank you for being here. Karen
navymom
on 11/22/06 9:07 pm - St. clair Shores, MI
Amen, I say to you Jon, You are still the Man!!!! May God bless you and all you have done for all on this board. Have a great day. Love, Carol
spraguerl
on 11/22/06 9:37 pm - Traverse City, MI
Jon, Very well said. I know I will always have to battle my weight. Right now I am still holding my own. I are trying to learn that food doesn't have any control over me. I also trying to make sure I attend all the support groups because I think it is so important. I feel I have a food addiction. My friend and work is a recovering alcoholic and I really feel we have some of the same issues. I know part of recovery is admitting the fact that I do have a food addiction. I will be fighting this til the end. I plan on walking today before and after eating the Thanksgiving dinner. Have a great day! Happy Thanksgiving! Lynn
(deactivated member)
on 11/22/06 9:46 pm - someplace, MI
i don't agree. you are mean. can i have my stuff bunny back? usta
Annette L.
on 11/23/06 12:41 am - Farmington Hills , MI
Hi Jon, Please stay on your soap box as long as you speak the truth. I have been really struggling lately. Your post has really helped me to think about what we all face everyday. It's a battle and we have to fight hard if we are going to be successful. The way we eat, well we choose what we are going to put into our mouths everyday. Whether it's good healthy foods or junk foods it will show on the scale and on our bodies. We can blame no one but ourselves for what we eat. Oh if it were that easy~ it's not my fault I ate the garbage instead of the healthy stuff. It's not my fault that I keep over eating, even though my pouch is full and hurts etc. etc. etc. Take care. God bless you, Annette
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