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justlori
on 9/9/11 7:32 am, edited 9/9/11 8:33 am - Winnipeg, Canada
VSG on 02/21/12

So at 8 a.m. this morning I attended the bariatric surgery information session at St. Boniface hospital.  This is something new, the first session was held last week.  According to Dr. Vergis, it's a time saver as he along with the other surgeons don't have to repeat themselves 20 times a day giving out the same information.  Makes sense to me.   I was a little surprised at the amount of women there, there had to be at least 20 of us squeezed into a conference room.   Dr. Vergis did a excellent job explaining everything with the help of a power-point presentation.  Drs. Andrew and Hardy were also in attendance.  It started promptly at 8 a.m. sharp and lasted about 50 minutes.

All of us had appointments scheduled throughout the day to meet one-on-one with our surgeon.  My meeting with Dr. Vergis was short but thorough.  He went over my medical history, looked at my belly and informed me I was an ideal candidate.   Andrea measured my height and weight.  I've gained 10 pounds since being refered in December.  I actually thought I had gained more.  Dr. Vergis wants me to lose it in the next 2 months.  

As for dates.  The nutritionist is booked until the end of November.  I have to wait for a December appointment.  Andrea told me I'm probably looking at April 2012 for a surgery date.  That sucks!  

Medi-trim is out, Optifast is in.  If Optifast does make protein bars they're no longer an option, only shakes.  It's also less expensive, approx. $50 less.  I asked Dr. Vergis why the change, and he stated Optifast is the more popular bariatric pre-surgery diet in Canada. 

It is not the mountain we conquer, but ourselves. Edmund Hillary
HW 282  CW 229  Height 5'9"  NUT Goal: 195-199  My Goal: 175

                          

kaskelkenz
on 9/9/11 1:01 pm - Canada
Hi Lori, I attended the info session with you this a.m.  Dr. Vergis said you have to lose the ten lbs you gained but did he officially approve you for the surgery or do yu have to wait until you lose the 10 lbs?

 He said he could not approve the surgery for me until I started exercising regularly and to prove I am exercising he told me I have to lose 15 lbs.  I was devastated!!!  I just sat in front of him and cried, it was AWFUL!!  I don't understand why he won't just proceed with the process while I work on an exercise program and losing the 15 lbs, given the process is so long and surgery wouldn't be til 2012.  I have become very discouraged and I am so sick to my stomach tonight.  I really did not expect this outcome from my consult today.  So anyay, I was just curious if he has officially approved you for surgery or if you have to see him again in two months??  Do you think everyone who attended this morning's info session have been exercising regularly?  I would be surprised if they have been.  So, I would imagine he did not approve ALOT of the ladies that were there, unless they have not been exercising regualrly but put down they have been on the questionaire. 

Has anyone else on this forum  had this roadblock in their journey?  Just a word of advice to those who are still waiting for their consult, START EXERCISING, or your proces will be delayed.  Sure wish someone had given me this advice over the last 8 months.  It would have been great if the initial letter I recieved from the surgeons office, saying I met the criteria, had also included the fact that you need to be exercising REGULARLY to be approved.
justlori
on 9/9/11 2:03 pm, edited 9/9/11 3:19 pm - Winnipeg, Canada
VSG on 02/21/12
I'm really not worried about losing the 10 pounds.  But the problem is I can lose it and gain it back 5 times before my surgery which is apparently at least 6 months away, and that concerns me.  I normally do exercise so that's not a problem for me. We discussed what my normal routine was and he basically told me to get back at it asap.    I was honest with Dr. Vergis and told him that since my referal I've slacked right off in the exercise department....thus gaining the 10 pounds.  We also discussed my previous attempts at weight loss.  He seemed satisfied that my weight problem has been life-long and I have made many, many attempts at battling the bulge, only to gain it back in the end. Perhaps the surgeons just want to make sure that all candidates have made honest efforts to lose weight on their own before taking the surgery route.  

I just went over all the paper work I was given.  I was approved.  I signed my life away and then when I asked what I had just signed, Andrea said it was acceptance into the program.  I was given the phone number to make an appointment for a psych exam.  Were you?   And Andrea will be making an appointment with the nutritionist for me.  She would have given me one today, but like I said, November was all booked and she didn't have the available dates for December. 

I agree with you, exercise was never mentioned as being part of the criteria, and I highly doubt that all the women at the info session today exercise.   Is the 15 pounds he wants you to lose weight that you have gained since you were refered?   You can lose it!   Put your mind to it and think of it as a small price to pay for a means to an end.  Don't be discouraged. 

It is not the mountain we conquer, but ourselves. Edmund Hillary
HW 282  CW 229  Height 5'9"  NUT Goal: 195-199  My Goal: 175

                          

Hes0775
on 9/10/11 1:49 pm
Hello, Ladies,

I too, was in the meeting on Sept 9th and Dr. Vergis also DENIED me for the surgery until I lose 15 lbs.  He re-scheduled to meet in 2 months hoping I will have lost the weight by then in order to proceed with the program. 

I think because I have a sedintary job and I'm not currently excersising, he wants to get me into a routine of excersising again as it is required to maintain the weight loss after the surgery.  I understand his decision and the concept behind it but I too was DEVASTATED. 

At the meeting everyone was excited they finally "MADE IT" - then to be DECLINED later in the day was hard to take.  I know it's a small set back in the grand scheme of things but it was enough to make a person bolt for the cookie jar. 

I'm trying to keep my mind on the big picture.  I figure I have 40 more years on this earth so a 2 month delay is not going to make much of a difference in the long run.  Keep your chin up, Kaskelkenz.  We'll get there. 

Heather
cedarstar
on 9/11/11 4:35 am - Manitoba, Canada
I had my first consult with Dr. Vergis in January of this year. At the time he did not mention anything about losing any extra weight before being accepted. He had mentioned a possible surgery date toward the end of May/June. I was to get started on an exercise program. It was to be cardio intense as to raise the heart rate. As I also have Fibromyalgia my own PCP wanted me to start with something like Tai Chi. I was also to see Laura (NUT) about my eating habits, I ended up having to see her 3 times before seeing him again. She got me on a good eating plan and never once asked me to lose weight. I again saw Dr. Vergis April 21st and when I was put on the scale it showed about a 3 lb gain. I was now going to the Y 2-3 evenings a week doing aquasizes and some treadmill beforehand. I also walk my dog everyday. He was not satisfied and did not at this time approve me for surgery in the summer as I had so longed for. I was scheduled again to see him June 3rd. Dr. Vergis wanted me to now lose 13lbs by then. I was so heartbroken by his decision that when I went to my own PCP a few days later I broke down crying. I felt like such a failure because I couldn't get to the Y as often as Dr. Vergis had wanted. I'm a single mom with Fibromyalgia, I work full-time and live out of town. I am always tired and was so proud of myself to get moving even a couple extra days a week. My PCP gave me 5 weeks off work and I then made an effort to get up every morning and head to the Y. I did back to back aquasize classes, one deep water, one shallow. Since I was off work I took my dog to the park and walked him. By June 3rd I had managed to lose about 12 lbs and it was enough for Dr. Vergis to final approve me into the program. I had all my pre-op blood work and xrays that day before I left the clinic. I also signed what I needed to sign..... Now I was so excited!!!!

Then came to waiting to see Laura and get a surgery date, always waiting.... I had my RNY Sept 6th and I am on my road to recovery..... don't give up it will happen... 

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sillychocolatehippo
on 9/11/11 12:13 pm
Out of curiosity, how do you know about these meetings? Do you get letters in the mail? When was this group of people referred?
justlori
on 9/11/11 12:48 pm - Winnipeg, Canada
VSG on 02/21/12

We were notified by mail a week and a half prior to the info session.  Following the session and throughout the day all the women at the session had a one-on-one consult with their surgeon.  I do believe most in attendance at last Friday's session  were referred in January. 

It is not the mountain we conquer, but ourselves. Edmund Hillary
HW 282  CW 229  Height 5'9"  NUT Goal: 195-199  My Goal: 175

                          

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