Difference of Opinion
Obviously, Sherri & I have a difference of opinion on some topics. I would just like to clarify a few things.
Please don't assume that I'm not doing as I'm told. My nutritionist's name is Ruthann at Clarian Bariatrics. If you think I'm lying when I say that I can have what I've said, then call her. The original poster in the recent thread in question asked for opinions. I gave mine. I didn't do so in order to sabotage pre- or post-ops. I asked Ruthann about caffeine the last time I was there. I showed her my Click canister which states the ingredients. I told her I sip Coke sometimes. She did tell me to stop that...not because of the carbonation, but because of the sugar. She said a little caffeine is okay because my pouch is completely healed. No, they're not crazy about carbonation, but at this stage they don't say absolutely not to have it. I SAID in my post that moderation and common sense is the key.
I made it very clear in my post that early outs should do neither. I made it very clear that the pouch should be healed before introducing carbonation or caffeine into it. I reiterated that I was 6 months out before I drank caffeine (in moderation) and carbonation (in moderation). In case there is a question, both Dr. Mattar and Ruthann have licenses to practice their specialties, and they are both very happy with my progress and happy for the most part with the way I eat. They did not warn me away from carbonation with dire predictions regarding blowing up my pouch. They simply don't want me to overdo it...which again, I made very clear that I don't. If you want to believe that five or six sips of Coke is gonna ruin your pouch, then by all means, don't do it. I'm here to tell you, though, that I have had no complications whatsoever and I do it occasionally, and if you read the main board, you will see that many others also do the same thing with no complications whatsoever. You just have use a little common sense with it.
There is more than one valid opinion on these subjects. I do not like the implication that I'm going against my doctor's instructions with impugnity and encouraging others to do the same. Question my opinion all you want; I love interesting discussion! However, do not question my integrity.
Jenny
Please don't assume that I'm not doing as I'm told. My nutritionist's name is Ruthann at Clarian Bariatrics. If you think I'm lying when I say that I can have what I've said, then call her. The original poster in the recent thread in question asked for opinions. I gave mine. I didn't do so in order to sabotage pre- or post-ops. I asked Ruthann about caffeine the last time I was there. I showed her my Click canister which states the ingredients. I told her I sip Coke sometimes. She did tell me to stop that...not because of the carbonation, but because of the sugar. She said a little caffeine is okay because my pouch is completely healed. No, they're not crazy about carbonation, but at this stage they don't say absolutely not to have it. I SAID in my post that moderation and common sense is the key.
I made it very clear in my post that early outs should do neither. I made it very clear that the pouch should be healed before introducing carbonation or caffeine into it. I reiterated that I was 6 months out before I drank caffeine (in moderation) and carbonation (in moderation). In case there is a question, both Dr. Mattar and Ruthann have licenses to practice their specialties, and they are both very happy with my progress and happy for the most part with the way I eat. They did not warn me away from carbonation with dire predictions regarding blowing up my pouch. They simply don't want me to overdo it...which again, I made very clear that I don't. If you want to believe that five or six sips of Coke is gonna ruin your pouch, then by all means, don't do it. I'm here to tell you, though, that I have had no complications whatsoever and I do it occasionally, and if you read the main board, you will see that many others also do the same thing with no complications whatsoever. You just have use a little common sense with it.
There is more than one valid opinion on these subjects. I do not like the implication that I'm going against my doctor's instructions with impugnity and encouraging others to do the same. Question my opinion all you want; I love interesting discussion! However, do not question my integrity.
Jenny
I don't know what original post you are talking about....but....here is my two cents...
I also have Dr Mattar and Ruthann. I love both of them. When I spoke to Ruthann she did tell me that I wouldn't have to give up my tea forever, so in my limited experience they will allow you to have caffeine post surgery, just not right away.
I also have Dr Mattar and Ruthann. I love both of them. When I spoke to Ruthann she did tell me that I wouldn't have to give up my tea forever, so in my limited experience they will allow you to have caffeine post surgery, just not right away.
Jenny,
It is not your integrity I question. I believe you honestly think that what you are putting into your body is okay for you. It is you thinking that it makes a good role model for those newer out that I question.
Look back at your past daily threads of what you were eating....baked potatoes with bacon bits being the main protien, pizza, pringles, chocolate kisses, subway sandwiches, pop. And since you mention it...I did email Ruthann about the caffiene. 2 shots of expresso per drink? No, they weren't aware that Click was so caffiene enriched. And..please don't think that I am the only one who has noticed these posts of yours. Just about anyone who is further out goes into shock when they see what you seem to think is a perfectly acceptable daily menu. How do I know? Every time you post what you ate, I get 10-20 phone calls, texts, and/or emails. And not always from the same people. And what are they all saying? Doesn't she realize that she is giving pre-ops the wrong impression? Doesn't she realize she is setting newbies up for failure? Or...If she wants to fail, that's one thing but does she have to take others down too??? Yes Jenny, that is what is being said. They won't say it to you, but I will.
It's not the little bits of this or that which will get you. It's the idea that 'it didn't hurt me that time so I'll be okay with a little bit more this time'. Isn't that how we got so darn fat to begin with?
I've already sensed that you don't like to think that others further out might have something to say that you could benefit from but ANYBODY can lose weight that first year post-op. It's when you can keep it off further out that you can really say you have been successful. I may not be a lisenced doctor or dietician but trust me when I say that without a lifestyle change, the weight comes right back. You can call it being a 'slow loser' all you want but try avoiding the carbs, sugars, caffeine, and carbonation and see if the weight doesn't slip off just a little bit quicker.
Sherri
It is not your integrity I question. I believe you honestly think that what you are putting into your body is okay for you. It is you thinking that it makes a good role model for those newer out that I question.
Look back at your past daily threads of what you were eating....baked potatoes with bacon bits being the main protien, pizza, pringles, chocolate kisses, subway sandwiches, pop. And since you mention it...I did email Ruthann about the caffiene. 2 shots of expresso per drink? No, they weren't aware that Click was so caffiene enriched. And..please don't think that I am the only one who has noticed these posts of yours. Just about anyone who is further out goes into shock when they see what you seem to think is a perfectly acceptable daily menu. How do I know? Every time you post what you ate, I get 10-20 phone calls, texts, and/or emails. And not always from the same people. And what are they all saying? Doesn't she realize that she is giving pre-ops the wrong impression? Doesn't she realize she is setting newbies up for failure? Or...If she wants to fail, that's one thing but does she have to take others down too??? Yes Jenny, that is what is being said. They won't say it to you, but I will.
It's not the little bits of this or that which will get you. It's the idea that 'it didn't hurt me that time so I'll be okay with a little bit more this time'. Isn't that how we got so darn fat to begin with?
I've already sensed that you don't like to think that others further out might have something to say that you could benefit from but ANYBODY can lose weight that first year post-op. It's when you can keep it off further out that you can really say you have been successful. I may not be a lisenced doctor or dietician but trust me when I say that without a lifestyle change, the weight comes right back. You can call it being a 'slow loser' all you want but try avoiding the carbs, sugars, caffeine, and carbonation and see if the weight doesn't slip off just a little bit quicker.
Sherri
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Sherri,
I'm confused, if someone has an issue with Jenny and what she's eating what aren't they sending her messages of encouragement or asking her what she's thinking...why would they bother you with it? You can't control what Jenny sticks in her mouth. You can only control you.
This is supposed to be a SUPPORT GROUP not a backstabbing group. I would say if someone has an issue with what Jenny's eating, SEND HER your concerns. Don't bother Sherri with them - because like I said Sherri CAN'T control Jenny.
Huggs,
Frankie
I'm confused, if someone has an issue with Jenny and what she's eating what aren't they sending her messages of encouragement or asking her what she's thinking...why would they bother you with it? You can't control what Jenny sticks in her mouth. You can only control you.
This is supposed to be a SUPPORT GROUP not a backstabbing group. I would say if someone has an issue with what Jenny's eating, SEND HER your concerns. Don't bother Sherri with them - because like I said Sherri CAN'T control Jenny.
Huggs,
Frankie
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On March 15, 2009 at 6:31 AM Pacific Time, Abhaya wrote:
I agree about this being a support group. I worry sometimes that I don't fit in here because I am not part of the "in crowd".....I would hate to find out that people were sending messages about me behind my back like they are Jenny....I like most everyone on here. (Well, there's one I don't like - but she's not on here anymore - at least not as herself)
Please come to some of the events and let us get to know you better! I always have a ball at these things.
I wouldn't worry about not being part of the "in crowd" because we aren't in high school anymore...well I'm not you look like you could be
There is a wonderful group of ladies on this board and I feel blessed everyday that I met them and are part of my life. I lurked for a while before I posted because I was leary to open myself to the chance I'd be hurt... I admit I'm standoffish until I get to know someone and then you have a friend for life.
Slowly, you'll begin to make friends and you'll discover most of us are good, but with being good, some of us are the bad and the ugly all rolled into one.
Huggs,
Frankie
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Jen L
on 3/15/09 1:29 am - Central, IN
on 3/15/09 1:29 am - Central, IN
Just to let you know, I've found WLS to be a cure for social anxiety! I used to have the same problem but now that I'm not worrying about being the fattest person in the room I enjoy going places and to social events.