And another thing, when I first came on here and read things from other people I learned things but I have enough sense to do my own research. If  a newbie comes on and takes something I say at face value and compare it to themselves it is their own fault not mine. You should follow your own path in this journey and not what someone else says. you should not attribute to yourself  Obviously the other people *****sponded to my post are real women and they knew what I meant so you can take your negativity and shove it.

If someone could quote me so the OP can read it, I would appreciate it. She wrote some foul-mouthed trash about me and then courageously blocked me, but not before it came to my inbox.

In these posts you have shown yourself to be an immmature, unintelligent person. Calling someone a swear word is classy.  And I am not sure why I would "need to worry about my family" as they are perfectly fine, with a mature and intelligent mother and wife *****searches things before she leaps.

Oh, I am a "real woman." Got the anatomy to prove it.

However, I do NOT blow rainbows and sunshine up your butt. I speak the truth. Oh, I read your whole message, even though it was poorly written and difficult to follow. You just kept repeating the same odd, non-fact as the truth and I wanted you to know what you were getting into, since you seemed mistaken about at least one key thing.

For example, do you know that with RNY you cannot take NSAIDs for the rest of your life, no matter if you have crippling arthritis, etc.? Do you know that you are at increased risk of developing reactive hypoglycemia because of your RNY?

And lots of people get WLS based on what they hear on the Internet or they want the "same surgery as the girl in Accounting," etc. Unfortunately, many people spend more time picking out their wallpaper than researching their WLS options. It matters when people spew non-facts. It is like a pebble dropped into a placid pond, rippling outward. It is worth correcting these things when we see them, so that people are not mislead.

It seems every day there are people on the main board who say they are bummed because they discovered they do NOT dump and they thought that would keep them from eating garbage. I thought I was helping you. I surely will not make that mistake again.

I wish you well on your journey, even if you have made it clear again and again that you do NOT know what you are doing. Yes, it is up to you. Good luck with that.

Nicolle
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On May 6, 2010 at 6:28 AM Pacific Time, nasirsmom99 wrote:

I also said that I know it is all on me and what In chose to do after surgery and it is up to me whether I succeed or fail or did you not read the entire message you stupid ass rude *****!! I came on here for some advice and support not some ******g know it all rude as **** to be said to me who the **** do you think you are ***** you dont know me but if you would like to let me know. Worry about you and your ****** family!!
sound like you need to be!!

Post Date: 5/6/10 6:39 am
And another thing, when I first came on here and read things from other people I learned things but I have enough sense to do my own research. If  a newbie comes on and takes something I say at face value and compare it to themselves it is their own fault not mine. You should follow your own path in this journey and not what someone else says. you should not attribute to yourself  Obviously the other people *****sponded to my post are real women and they knew what I meant so you can take your negativity and shove it.  

I don't care if it went to your home address, you think you know everything and you don't. What makes you think you have the right to try to inform or educate me on something because you have a few years in and you think you know wls? you are a dser I am having gastric bypass and if I wanted your advice about dumping I would have asked. I am a grown ass woman and I can't believe I let you work me up like that but it's cool. If I am ill informed then thats my business. You should have kept your I hope you dump comment to yourself all I said was If you had bothered to read you would have read where I said I know its up to me and my responsibility to do what I have to dpo to be successful. Everyone else *****ad my post knew what I meant and you chose to focus on the dumping part of all the things I said and you still don't see that, you continue to speak on what you want. I have been researching this surgery for two years and i know what to expect and that so called non fact ypou speak of was me venting.

Sorry Nicolle I can't believe while you were giving good factual information to someone who obviously needed it, you were completely dumped on. 1. You were not rude 2. You were stating simple facts of worthy information 3. You can be glad you were blocked because why bother helping someone who clearly doesn't want it unless its a good handholding and coddling. To the original poster, I know you are anxious but chill out. The only thing that was rude in this whole line of posts was your response to someone pointing out something they thought you may not be aware of, something really important if you want to know. If you are counting on dumping as a deterrent to eating badly you should try therapy for food issues instead.

Just as Nicole or whatever her name is you took one statement from the entire post!!! did you not see where i wrote that i understand that this is totally on me? that i know that whether I succeed or fail is on me? what is wrong with you people? I have beeen researching this fro two years and I never once said I am solely dependimng on dumping. If neither of you liked my post then why did you respond? As I told her I have a right to post what I want and if someone is stupid enough to go and have gastric bypass based on what I SAY IN MY POST then that is their problem. I have heard certain things on here to but the decision is mine and I KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THIS WORK I was just venting and if you don't like it go somewhere else. She was out of place for assuming and trying to tell me what she knows. Furthermpre lets say I diod depend on dumping... who's problem is that mine or your and hers? let me do me and you do you. how about that?

How about you take your OWN�advice: if YOU don't like what I post, then don't respond. You responded and made yourself look foolish, again and again and I am not talking about your poor grammar.

Have you noticed that no one is jumping in here to defend your silliness, despite the HUGE number of hits this thread has gotten and the HUGE numbers of RNY patients who lurk and post here? I mean, duh. Get a clue.

It is CLEAR�that you believed you would dump by the following statement in your OP:

"I CHOSE GASTRIC BYPASS BECAUSE I LIKE THE FACT THAT I WILL DUMP AND THAT GIVES ME SOME KIND OF SECURITY THOUGH I AM FULLY AWARE THAT THIS IS ALL ON ME. WHAT I CHOSE TO DO AFTER SURGERY WILL DETERMINE IF I FAIL OR SUCCEED."

You clearly thought it was a FACT that you will dump. Now you, and any newbies *****ad this, now know you may not. They now know that maybe 30% of RNYers will dump. My work is done here on that topic, on this thread.

"Support" comes in many different forms, especially if YOU post a nutty "HELP�ME�PLEASE" post in all caps, which BTW is netspeak for "yelling."� YOU invited public commentary. I did not come to your house and drag you ought of bed to tell you what I thought about your situation. By virtue of you posting your business--including inaccurate information about the gastric bypass-- you are inviting people like me to state our opinions.

If you require the "atta boy" variety of support all of the time, then maybe an online forum is not for you. Maybe you need to hire a "yes" man in your life. Some of us in this online world see a trainwreck soming and try to prevent it, by pointing out something you might not have known. If you are so insecure about your choice, then you should step back and think about it.

I visit this forum every day and post plenty of supportive stuff. It is YOU who is the stranger around these parts. Maybe you should learn the way things work before you go stomping around here like a buffalo and insisting everyone do things YOUR way. You have been on here for two months and all you ever post on is stuff YOU need from the group.

And as for my "I hope you are a dumper" comment... YOU said you want to be a dumper, so I hope you get it what you want. It was not malicious at all. I would not want that for me or anyone I love, but to each his own. If you think you need negative reinforcement/punishment to stay on track, that's fine. I prefer enjoying my food, life and the positive reinforcement of seeing how my body feels and how my scale responds to my food choices. Living in a 344-pound body for a few years was punishment enough for me. I do not deserve or want any more.

I have learned a lot from the people on the Illinois forum. They are good, smart people. Maybe you could learn something from them, including me, if you were not so obstinate.

Best of luck to you.

Nicolle

ETA:

1) Oh, and I know so much about a variety of WLS because I did a LOT of scientifc and anecdotal research on them when I was considering WLS for me. I visited lots of docs in the Chicago area and paid for consults on what they would recommend for me. AND I listen and learn when people who have them take the time to write here and tell us what they're experiencing. You should try that. Oh, and two of my friends have RNY and one has the band.

2) Since you have done such vast research, then I am sure you know that with a BMI of 53.3 and type 2 diabetes, your odds of losing the weight and keeping it off and resolving your diabetes are much better with the DS.

Check out the AACE/TOS/ASMBS (Vol. 14 - July/August 2008), on page 10 there is a table of Reported Weight Loss as Percentage of Excess Body Weight after Bariatric Surgery.

Whatever, you can say that again.  I really don't care who comes to my aid. I came in this world alone and now I have a husband and five children and that's how it will be. So I need not one of you *****es to validate me. I made it this far. I am glad you help people. Of course you are so brave on here. Don't  worry, you called yourself trying to teach me a lesson and you did. You are still not seeing the point. You pulled that one point from my post and ran with it. You should think about other people feelings. I see I am getting nowhere with you and you still only see what you wanted to see in that post so goodbye old lady. And feel free to share my number anyone got a problem with me or what I said call me like real women AND TALK TO ME AND STOP TRYING TO GET ATTENTION BY TRYING TO ATTACK ME. I AM GOING TO A CENTER OF EXCELLENCE STUPID YOU THINK THEY DID NOT EDUCATE ME? LET ME GO BEFORE I END UP IN JAIL 

Listen, rocket scientist.

"Center of Excellence" means very little, except that that particular hospital jumped through some red tape (and paid massive fees) to get a designation so that the government (your Medicaid, for example) pays them. It's worth it for them to do that so they get PAID. The government wants to make sure a minimum of standards exist in any place they pay, so most hopitals do this. Get a clue.

A COE is not truly a marker of quality, unless you are comparing it to a backwoods local yokel hospital. It's a way for the doc and hospital to get paid their money from the government. Their job is NOT to educate you. Their job is to take the money, cut you open and send you on your way. Got it?

Calling us all "*****es?" Calling ME "stupid?" Implying that you will go to jail for something you're going to do to me? Glad you're showing your true colors. Good way to make friends and influence people. What are you, 12 years old? Get a grip.

And WHY would I share your phone number with anyone? They don't need to bring on the crazy, either. As I told you in our private message exchange, I prefer to keep our dealings public, as you seem unbalanced. It's best that people see you unravel in public, as you just did. Glad I trusted my instincts on that one.

BTW, you are fond of determining behavior for a "real woman." Here's my take on this:

A "real woman" would:

--not place her life and family in jeopardy by giving a complete stranger from an online forum her phone number. (From your name here, it seems you are a 10 or 11-year old's mother. It is NOT a good idea to share your personal information with strangers.)

--would research the heck out of a life-threatening surgery she is hoping to have.

--would learn the norms and mores of a community she has joined before she puts her big foot in her equally big mouth.

Best of luck to you,

Nicolle

I will post my number wherever I want it's an unlisted number lol!!! you are one funny old lady. there is not a person on here stupid enough to try me and if they are tell them to come on . You talk a lot of garbage on here,  whole lot of computer courage.when the truth is you are just another person who had to get weight loss surgery to loose weight like the rest of us you are superior to no one. And also for your information I have Aetna through mine and my husbands job I only used medicaid because they are quicker you want to see what I have see me on facebook( nasirsmom99) since you trying to throw medicaid in my face I am not ashamed of **** and you can't hurt me. And I have two ten year olds, a five year old, a three year old and a one year old and nobody has dared to **** with them or me or my husband yet!! I am finished with you now. And you are the only ***** Im talking to no one is jumping to you defense either. Have a nice life!!! wink!! smilin!!