Major goal and food amounts
I also posted most of this on Roll Call.
My scales read 300 this morning after ablutions and absolutions. That was a major goal to be at 300 during this spring. The next goal was to be at 200 by next spring. A bit of a bummer that the Wii is reading 320 but since the scales were the only measurement I had from 517 to 327 I will count the milestone and keep on truckin'.
As to the two biscuits and gravy as far as amount of food. It was about a cup and a half of food. Sometimes I can eat as much as two cups of gumbo or stew. Even while in the hospital I could eat way more than I thought I would be able to eat. Maybe I do not eat often enough and that leaves room in the intestines for food to go through the pouch. It seems to me that all foods end up being slider foods once you chew them to cottage cheese consistancy.
I smoked chicken thighs over the weekend and thought I would be able to eat two small ones at one meal. About two bites into the second one my body threw up a big red stop sign. It was really a big disappointment to sit that partially eaten thigh aside for later.
This is not posted on roll call.
I have not had even an urge to throw up since the first week or two post op. On my return trip to the hospital a few days after coming home they mistakenly started me on what they called soft foods but there was no way they were really soft foods and my thought is that the hospital kitchens and following up meals at home should be a size that is what we need to eat. Medical science ignores nutrition as medicine way too much.
My scales read 300 this morning after ablutions and absolutions. That was a major goal to be at 300 during this spring. The next goal was to be at 200 by next spring. A bit of a bummer that the Wii is reading 320 but since the scales were the only measurement I had from 517 to 327 I will count the milestone and keep on truckin'.
As to the two biscuits and gravy as far as amount of food. It was about a cup and a half of food. Sometimes I can eat as much as two cups of gumbo or stew. Even while in the hospital I could eat way more than I thought I would be able to eat. Maybe I do not eat often enough and that leaves room in the intestines for food to go through the pouch. It seems to me that all foods end up being slider foods once you chew them to cottage cheese consistancy.
I smoked chicken thighs over the weekend and thought I would be able to eat two small ones at one meal. About two bites into the second one my body threw up a big red stop sign. It was really a big disappointment to sit that partially eaten thigh aside for later.
This is not posted on roll call.
I have not had even an urge to throw up since the first week or two post op. On my return trip to the hospital a few days after coming home they mistakenly started me on what they called soft foods but there was no way they were really soft foods and my thought is that the hospital kitchens and following up meals at home should be a size that is what we need to eat. Medical science ignores nutrition as medicine way too much.
Randy
So you have been forgiven?
Randy
While I can eat more on some days than others, our pouches start out about the size of an walnut e to about the size of an egg from what I understand. I looked up my surgeon's guidelines and it states that we should eat 3 small meals a day with a portion size about that of a Lean Cuisine frozen entree plus a small serving (1/4 - 1/2 c fruit.
I have found that if I eat dense meat such as chicken first, I get VERY full very fast!
Everyone is different. My pouch HATES fried food. It loves spicy foods which I could not tolerate before surgery. Rice is not my friend and pasta is a hit or miss. The Barilla brand pasta is best for me as it is a high protein pasta, but I have to be Very careful not to overeat or I am extremely uncomfortable.
Also, some food for thought. Just because we can eat that much, should we? Do we want to go back to the weight that we were. I constantly have to remind myself that I cannot eat the quantity that I once did. I still take way too much food at a buffet or for a serving, but I have learned it is perfectly acceptable to leave food on my plate. I have gotten comfortable with that idea.
Once that honeymoon stage is over, everything, rears its head so just a friendly heads up. I wish I had learned more from my mistakes. I would not be here with so much more weight to lose and now it is as hard as ever to lose it.
While I can eat more on some days than others, our pouches start out about the size of an walnut e to about the size of an egg from what I understand. I looked up my surgeon's guidelines and it states that we should eat 3 small meals a day with a portion size about that of a Lean Cuisine frozen entree plus a small serving (1/4 - 1/2 c fruit.
I have found that if I eat dense meat such as chicken first, I get VERY full very fast!
Everyone is different. My pouch HATES fried food. It loves spicy foods which I could not tolerate before surgery. Rice is not my friend and pasta is a hit or miss. The Barilla brand pasta is best for me as it is a high protein pasta, but I have to be Very careful not to overeat or I am extremely uncomfortable.
Also, some food for thought. Just because we can eat that much, should we? Do we want to go back to the weight that we were. I constantly have to remind myself that I cannot eat the quantity that I once did. I still take way too much food at a buffet or for a serving, but I have learned it is perfectly acceptable to leave food on my plate. I have gotten comfortable with that idea.
Once that honeymoon stage is over, everything, rears its head so just a friendly heads up. I wish I had learned more from my mistakes. I would not be here with so much more weight to lose and now it is as hard as ever to lose it.
Cat Lady
Thank you for the information.
I have not yet been to a buffet.
My diet is to have no rice or pasta because they expand after they are eaten.
Serving sizes of protein are about the same as yours and I only eat veggies every third day or so. I was eating some fruit but have cut back on that except what is in my yogurt.
I have not yet been to a buffet.
My diet is to have no rice or pasta because they expand after they are eaten.
Serving sizes of protein are about the same as yours and I only eat veggies every third day or so. I was eating some fruit but have cut back on that except what is in my yogurt.
Randy
So you have been forgiven?
Randy, great job on the WL and the way you are heading I can see that scale reading 200 by next spring. All of us have different protocols with their own physician as to the amounts of foods/liquids. For example my lifestyle change for food was to be no more than 1/2C of food up to 6 times a day for the rest of my life & 1000-1100 cals a day. I can eat all foods as tolerated keeping in mind to get my protein in 1st, fruits and veggis next & then if there is any room for a treat (cal wise) I can have something if desired. Now-your comments on foods/type of foods (consistency), amounts, density of proteins (smoked chicken or other), chewing food to mush etc. - for me & not all - breads, rice and pasta fill me up. Sometimes rice just does not sit in my tummy at all. It is the same for Dave. For me that is good because I like those foods too much. With the biscuits/gravy and the gumbo/soup one has to look at the ratio of calories/protein and the quantity. For me it is just for a little addition to the meal but not the whole meal. Dave and I will share a cup of soup as if we have the whole thing we cannot eat our meal or appetizer. Denser protein foods for most will mean that one will more than likely eat only 4-6 bites and then you are finished, but to eat slowly. I cannot tell you how many times that I have overeaten because my eyes were bigger than my belly . . . So many times I have eaten a couple of bites too many and have paid the price by feeling miserable. Your comment about eating foods to mush and thinking that you have made it to a cottage cheese consistency is a dangerous thing to get into because you can end up overeating. Be really careful with that mindset as I would not want you to be a person that stretches his pouch and needs a revision. I am with Nancy on the amounts that you can eat - is it really something that you should do? I would suggest a food journal and be really honest with everything that goes into your mouth. You might be surprised with the amount of calories that you are taking in, it might be too much.
Just my 2 cents. It is perceptions from my point of view but of course I am not a clinician. Jot down all of your thoughts and questions and ask your own medical professionals when you see them again.
Just my 2 cents. It is perceptions from my point of view but of course I am not a clinician. Jot down all of your thoughts and questions and ask your own medical professionals when you see them again.
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