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pinkshrimp
on 1/24/09 10:32 am - HI
Topic: RE: How does HMSA Cover the Sugery?
Hi Jessica,

I had HMSA approve my surgery.  I did not have any comorbidities except that my BMI was 50.  This is the Criteria ans Guidelines from HMSA.  Again the process is different if you have HMO or PPO.  With HMO you have to have your primary care doctor to refer you.  With PPO you can go directly to the Surgeon. (most cases)

Also, you need to check with your company's insurance to see if they cover Bariatric Surgery.


Hope this helps!!  If you need any specific info on what I went through, feel free to message me :)

Good Luck, Viki

II.  Criteria/Guidelines
A.  Surgery for morbid obesity will be covered for members when the following criteria are met:

1.   The patient is morbidly obese, defined as either of the following:

 a.   Persistent and uncontrollable weight gain that constitutes a present or potential threat to life, characterized by:

 i.    Weight that is at least 100 pounds over, or twice the ideal weight specified in the current Metropolitan Life Insurance Table (Click for Metropolitan Life Tables), or

ii.   A BMI greater than 40 kg/m²; or

 b.   BMI of between 35 and 40 kg/m² with one of the following high-risk comorbidities:

 i.    Severe sleep apnea (defined as repeated hypoxia < 80% on sleep study); or documented pulmonary hypertension on echocardiogram or right heart catheterization; or sleep apnea induced right heart failure requiring hospitalization)
ii.   Pickwickian syndrome

iii.  Obesity-related cardiomyopathy (defined as global cardiomyopathy with estimated ejection fraction < 40 percent)

iv.  Severe diabetes mellitus with documentation of severe insulin resistance not adequately controlled (Hb A1c > 8.0 percent) on insulin sensitizing agents and  80 units of insulin a day







 

pinkshrimp
on 1/24/09 10:18 am - HI
Topic: RE: I'm banded!
Congrats on your surgery Nicole!!

Sorry about the anesthesia but happy you're doing well :)  yay for the loser!!!!

viki
Makena
on 1/24/09 4:05 am - Kihei, HI
Topic: RE: How does HMSA Cover the Sugery?
Aloha Jessica-

Sorry your post has gone unanswered here, but it's probably because none of us know what your policy will cover since we don't know what policy you have. The best thing you can do is start doing your "homework."

You'll need to talk with your insurance people and find out the answers to all your questions... find out which surgeries they will or will not cover... find out if there require there to be co-morbidities or other prerequisites before they will cover WLS. You should have some kind of booklet or you can probably check online at your insurance website.

As far as "getting my hopes high for something that might not even come to pass".... some of us have done that and been refused and have gone the "self-pay" route. For me, having the procedure and surgeon I wanted was important to me. My insurance would not cover an out-of-state surgery/surgeon, so I had to dig deep to get what I wanted, but I don't regret a single moment.

I hope you find the answers you need to continue your journey. Know that we're here for you if you need us, too!

((hugs))
Sometimes losing is really winning
I feel like Alice.... I'm in Onderland! 7-18-08










Sara10
on 1/23/09 3:49 pm
Topic: RE: First Fill
Hey there,
Sorry I missed you.  School started this week and I think I have worked 80 hours and am covering at the hospital this weekend.  Hope all is well with you and  I will try to catch up with you this weekend.  Sara
Sara10
on 1/23/09 3:48 pm
Topic: RE: I'm banded!
Sorry to hear about the problems with anesthesia.  I am glad to hear everything else went well. I just had my first fill today.  2.5 cc and I feel like I ate a turkey.  Hope your follow up goes well.  Sara
sassy_brat_96792
on 1/23/09 11:25 am
Topic: How does HMSA Cover the Sugery?
I havent gone to the doctors ever since high school. I decided to go due to not having my period for 6 or 7 years. The doctors told me that It pretty much looks like i have PCOS. However, due to procedure they need to eliminate all other conditions also.  but when im diagnosed, he is going to refer me to a physical trainer, dietician, and sugeon to get WLS. My stats are im labed pre-diabetic, no menstal periods, low good cholestrol levels, im 5'6" and 298 lbs. I have the dark patches on my neck. How do i know if HMSA will approve my sugery, what is the reason they approved yours? I just dont want to get my hopes high for something that might not even come to pass. Please advise.

Thank you Jessica
HIgurl
on 1/23/09 10:34 am
Topic: RE: I'm banded!
that sucks about the ventilator thing..im glad u are ok thought...my mom helped me to put on my undies when i was in the hospital..haha..so yes thats a good friend..at least my mom seen my privates from the day i was born..lol..anyways good luck and congrats
huladebbie
on 1/23/09 4:54 am - Kapolei, HI
Topic: RE: I'm banded!

So glad to hear from you.  You have been in my thoughts and I'm glad everything worked out. 

Sorry to hear about the anesthesia.  Wow that must have been something.

Enjoy the mall and take care.

Debbie

 

Makena
on 1/23/09 4:45 am - Kihei, HI
Topic: RE: I'm banded!
Wow! So glad to hear you're ok!!!! ((hugs)) Must have been a scary Wednesday!

Love your "best friend" definition! That is SO true! hehehe Made me giggle!

Speedy recovery to you! Malama pono!!!!
Sometimes losing is really winning
I feel like Alice.... I'm in Onderland! 7-18-08










Nicole K.
on 1/23/09 4:15 am - Kailua Kona, HI
Topic: I'm banded!
Hi everyone.... wow, what a blurr of a few days!  I am on Oahu with my bestest friend (I know that now, because she helped me put on undies yesterday).  I had surgery Wednesday morning and although the lapband proceedure went well... I unfortunately had severe complications to the anesthesia and had to be re-intubated and kept on a ventilator for most of Wednesday.

But.... that's all in the past.  Except for a sore throat and a little bit slower recovery, I'm feeling great.  Finally slept well last night and feel very good today.

Thanks for all your well wishes.  We are off to the mall to walk and then to Dr. Fowlers for a follow up appointment.  I'll check in again after we fly home this weekend.

        
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