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Ally61
on 3/10/09 10:11 pm - Naperville, IL
On March 10, 2009 at 4:44 PM Pacific Time, curiouscat7 wrote:
What the F does God have to do with a doc releasing you the same day for major surgery.....

Why can't u talk about the fact that a doc was negligent,that he had sooo many infractions on his liscense,,,, he has been sued multiple times. Why would you not want to talk about it??? what scares u?

He is taking advantage of you girls that have Medicare... don't u get it... do I have to spell it out...For Jesus sakes....

And no I" m not a dr. but those are the guidelines of Bariatric Surgery..... written by docs

CC
This site has helped me out so much and I've met a lot of really nice and supportive people here...I also try to do the same when I share my experiences and knowledge on here with others...I don't look for trouble or confrontations with people so I try to live a drama free life but I feel as a believer I must speak up and address your statement:

"What the F does God have to do with a doc releasing you the same day for major surgery..."

I'll tell you what God has to do with it!...EVERYTHING!...For those of us that are believers, (which by your statement you don't appear to be or maybe your faith just isn't at the same place as the person that voiced her beliefs) it isn't wise of you to knock a person who allows God to lead their life...God has everything to do with the doctors and anyone else whose hands we put our lives and well being in...Not the bad things that are sometimes done because God doesn't do evil but to take God out of anything in our lives no matter how big or small takes away the blessings that he has for us...But that's just my faith and what I believe!...

Aside from that, you're also being condescending, self-righteous and totally disrespectful...First, by identifying her or anyone else as "you girls" and not their name(s) and secondly, by implying that people that have Medicare don't have sense enough to know what they're doing...Truly not the characteristics of a leader or someone who considers them self informed and imparting wisdom to the less knowledgeable...I've been told that, "It's not what you say but how you say it" and in your case it's both!...If what you're saying about this doctor or any other doctor for that matter has any merit, you surely aren't going to win people over by brow beating and insulting them in public to say the least.

I'm sure you may have something to say in the way of a rebuttal but I truly hope you honestly consider what I've said the next time you attempt to share with others!...

May you continue to be blessed on your WLS journey!

"... For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Luke12:48

 
LaShelle2
on 3/11/09 1:59 am - STOCKBRIDGE, GA
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wongypsygirl
on 3/10/09 9:27 am, edited 3/10/09 9:35 am
CC,

Many & I mean many doctors are releasing after a 1 night stay. As a matter of fact when my insurance approved it was for 1 night unless a longer hospital was needed. I have posted on the February 09 board and have noticed many people were released with many other doctors after 1 night. It is obvious you have chosen not to use Duncan or the other doctors at his practice and that's great...FOR YOU. I know you are posting out of supposed concern but you are pushing people away from posting on this board. I feel as though I am being ostracized because of MY personal decision to use Duncan/Hobson.

Thanks but no thanks on the ***** slap. I have a mom. I don't need another one.
curiouscat7
on 3/10/09 9:38 am
Maybe if u read the post ..... u would get it. He wanted her to be released same day...

He is negligent.... your not being ostracized but I guess If i can save one of your girls ass from this dr... then I'm doing somthing for someone.

And why do u say I pushing people away form the board.. why would we you give me so much power.. we all have voices... and when you post such horrible scary things about a doc your gonna get a response like this......



CC
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wongypsygirl
on 3/10/09 10:06 am

CC,

Why must you continue to post like I'm an idiot. I can assure you that I am not. I get that he APPROVED her to be released the same day. She said no and stayed. You also said that there must be a 2 night stay and that is simply not true. Many doctors do not require a 2 night stay anymore especially with LAP RNY.

As far as feeling ostracized or pushed away from posting here, by you specifically, it could be statements you've made such as You guys are F'ing nuts....Yes I cussed to slap you upside the head...or whatever. Sure gives me the warm & fuzzies. As far as giving you SO much power to push me away, I'm not one to want to stick around somewhere and be abused for my personal decisions. I'm not out there saying use my doctor blah blah blah. All I'm saying is my personal experience with Duncan/Hobson, which I HAVE. I had a great experience. I also had a wonderful experience at Atlanta Medical Center. That is all.

I believe the original post was a question about when Lillian could possibly return to work after surgery not a "I am using this doctor what do you think" post.

Amanda

talksoupslp
on 3/10/09 10:01 pm

I'm going to add my $.02.  I am not trying to stir the pot, just hope maybe people can see a different side of things.

As far as hospital stay goes, I have a sneaking suspicion if you took a poll on the RNY board and asked for only people who have had surgery in the last 18 months how long their hospital stay was, the majority of the answers would be 2 nights.  Maybe some docs are starting to transition to a 1 night stay if everything is good, but most often it's 2.  I have consulted with 2 different docs at 2 different hospitals and both indicated that, without complications, it would be a 2 night stay.

As far as the insurance company approving 1 day, that's standard operating procedure for an insurance company.  They do that for MOST surgeries.  Technically, they are only pre-authorizing the surgery.  Once the surgery is complete, the doc (or his staff) call to get the rest of the days authorized.  Trick is, if you are in the hospital 23 1/2 hours or less, it's not an inpatient admission.

I'm sorry you feel like you are ostracized for using Dr. Duncan.  I must admit, every time I see some is using or has used him, I cringe.  I investigate all doctors I intend to use or am thinking about using (not just surgeons).  I think if more people checked out their docs, less people would use Dr. Duncan.  Since it's a matter of public record, I will mention here that Dr. Duncan has 2 large malpractice suits settled against him...1 from 2005, the other from 2006.  Doctors are not G-ds, doctors make mistakes...these were big mistakes.  That said, there is another doctor in metro Atlanta (not affiliated with Dr. Duncan) who has board orders attached to his license.  That particular doc has a history of drug abuse and a history of recovery AND relapse.  I wouldn't use that doc either, even though he too is highly regarded. 

If a patient has researched their doctor, found something like the above mentioned out and still makes the decision to use that doctor, at least they'd be going into the operating room forewarned.  Weight loss surgery is dangerous...most surgery is dangerous.  It is just very important to be an informed consumer.

This email is not intended to be preachy or judgemental or anything like that.  I just think as consumers of healthcare we need to make informed, wise decisions.



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wongypsygirl
on 3/11/09 12:53 am
I can totally appreciate and respect your point view and most of all the way you express it.

Amanda
Ally61
on 3/11/09 1:21 am - Naperville, IL
On March 11, 2009 at 5:01 AM Pacific Time, talksoupslp wrote:

I'm going to add my $.02.  I am not trying to stir the pot, just hope maybe people can see a different side of things.

As far as hospital stay goes, I have a sneaking suspicion if you took a poll on the RNY board and asked for only people who have had surgery in the last 18 months how long their hospital stay was, the majority of the answers would be 2 nights.  Maybe some docs are starting to transition to a 1 night stay if everything is good, but most often it's 2.  I have consulted with 2 different docs at 2 different hospitals and both indicated that, without complications, it would be a 2 night stay.

As far as the insurance company approving 1 day, that's standard operating procedure for an insurance company.  They do that for MOST surgeries.  Technically, they are only pre-authorizing the surgery.  Once the surgery is complete, the doc (or his staff) call to get the rest of the days authorized.  Trick is, if you are in the hospital 23 1/2 hours or less, it's not an inpatient admission.

I'm sorry you feel like you are ostracized for using Dr. Duncan.  I must admit, every time I see some is using or has used him, I cringe.  I investigate all doctors I intend to use or am thinking about using (not just surgeons).  I think if more people checked out their docs, less people would use Dr. Duncan.  Since it's a matter of public record, I will mention here that Dr. Duncan has 2 large malpractice suits settled against him...1 from 2005, the other from 2006.  Doctors are not G-ds, doctors make mistakes...these were big mistakes.  That said, there is another doctor in metro Atlanta (not affiliated with Dr. Duncan) who has board orders attached to his license.  That particular doc has a history of drug abuse and a history of recovery AND relapse.  I wouldn't use that doc either, even though he too is highly regarded. 

If a patient has researched their doctor, found something like the above mentioned out and still makes the decision to use that doctor, at least they'd be going into the operating room forewarned.  Weight loss surgery is dangerous...most surgery is dangerous.  It is just very important to be an informed consumer.

This email is not intended to be preachy or judgemental or anything like that.  I just think as consumers of healthcare we need to make informed, wise decisions.

I agree with Amanda!...This is how you share and talk to people, very respectful and understanding; not condescending and insulting!...

Bless you!

"... For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Luke12:48

 
Lookingup
on 3/11/09 9:12 am - Sharpsburg, GA
Where do you go to research your doctor like that?


Lookingup
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talksoupslp
on 3/11/09 9:47 am
While the first place to usually start is just to "google" the doctor or try www.pipl.com.  You don't always get information, but it's a place to start.  As for the malpractice suits and drug abuse, google "ga medical board" once you get to that website, there is a link on the left of the screen that says "professional license search".

I wish more people would search their docs (and I'm not just referring to bariatric surgeons).  It really disheartens me when someone chooses a doc because so-and-so said he/she was good, or because the doc is on their insurance.  While a personal referral from someone you trust is good, there is nothing like researching yourself.  We live in metro Atlanta...you can't swing a dead cat by its tail without hitting a med school.  We have some of the best docs here, why waste time with lousy ones.


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