So how much is to much protein? or is there such a thing

usandall
on 11/14/12 10:00 am

Protein use to be a major issue to get in and I had a hard time getting any where near 100 but now that I have switched to the heavy cream protein shakes actually taste good.  So I wonder is it possible to gain wt if I take in to much

 

JazzyOne9254
on 11/14/12 10:59 am

It's carbs that put the weight on, not the protein, although too much of anything will make you gain weight!   

Are you using straight heavy cream, or a mixture of milk & cream?  I mix the two. because straight cream is just a tad too thick for me!

I just use the shakes as insurance, maybe taking two a day to supply half of the 100g of protein I need.  I usually try to keep my intake around 125g though.  It seems to take that much to keep me from going into PCM. I will absolutely *not* entertain the thought of a revision to a longer common channel!

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Jaiart
on 11/14/12 7:10 pm - MI
According to my doctor yes there can be too much protein. Told me to stop ingesting 120 extra grams of protein daily. Said 1 protein shake per day on top of food based protein so total of about 120-140 grams per day, not 200 grams per day.

 

southernlady5464
on 11/14/12 10:27 pm
On November 15, 2012 at 3:10 AM Pacific Time, Jaiart wrote:
According to my doctor yes there can be too much protein. Told me to stop ingesting 120 extra grams of protein daily. Said 1 protein shake per day on top of food based protein so total of about 120-140 grams per day, not 200 grams per day.

Okay, a lot of this depends on the length of your common channel..BUT typically you would have to ingest a LOT more than 200 grams to get over done.

We typically absorb 50-60% of the protein ingested. So for 200 grams ingested, the most you absorb is 120 grams.

The amount of protein you require depends on your weight and your daily caloric intake. Most Americans consume more than enough protein in their daily diets. A few specific groups of people are at risk for being protein-deficient, including elderly women and people with illnesses or eating disorders. A protein deficiency is defined as eating 50% to 75% of the recommended amount of daily protein

Ideally, you should consume 0.36 grams of protein for every pound of body weight, according to recommended daily allowances (RDA) set by the Food and Nutrition Board. So if you weigh 170 pounds, you need about 61 grams of protein each day.

Bold is mine...while we aren't "ill", we are compromised. 61 grams for a NORMAL170lb person is 120-150+ grams for one of us.

Liz

Duodenal Switch (Lap) 01-24-11 | Surgeon: Stephen Boyce | High weight: 250 in 2002 | Surgery weight: 203 | Lowest weight: 121 | Current weight: 135 | Goal weight: 135






   

Valerie G.
on 11/15/12 2:20 am - Northwest Mountains, GA

As early out as you are - I doubt you'll overdo it.

Valerie
DS 2005

There is room on this earth for all of God's creatures..
next to the mashed potatoes

usandall
on 11/15/12 3:29 am

I have had protein 200 on some recent days related to shakes

kat81
on 11/15/12 2:54 pm

Good info Liz.    I had thought 100% of protein and carbs were absorbed and only 20% of fat.   Is that correct about the fat absorption?

southernlady5464
on 11/15/12 9:56 pm

Yes, it is...see the info here for more details. DS Math

Note that in this DS math explanation, while the 80% fat malabsorption had been documented by a study by Gagner et al. [68], the 40% malabsorption figure I use for both complex carbohydrates and protein malabsorption are only estimates, and are probably quite a bit more variable person-to-person than the fat malabsorption, because there is SOME digestion and absorption of protein and complex carbs in the small intestine as the result of acid digestion by the stomach and enzymes secreted in the mouth and the jejunum and ilium, together with the much more variable length of the alimentary tract between patients, whereas fat digestion and absorption essentially only occurs in the common channel. The 40% figure comes from conservatively averaging a number of figures -- guesstimates, really -- that I have read and heard from surgeons over the years.

Duodenal Switch (Lap) 01-24-11 | Surgeon: Stephen Boyce | High weight: 250 in 2002 | Surgery weight: 203 | Lowest weight: 121 | Current weight: 135 | Goal weight: 135






   

NoreenRT
on 11/15/12 8:52 pm - Warner Robins, GA

there used to be a medical doc who had the ds and posted on oh.  a yr or more out, he posted about getting 200 gr of protein a day. 

i know if i don't stay consistent with getting 130+ a day my hair falls out like crazy, and the nails break so easily.  i take that as a sign of worse things to come.  i am 55 so maybe this falls under the elderly category?  good god, just for my ego's sake i hope not.  lol.

 

 

Noreen  HW 352 / SW 324 / CW 175/ LW/ 148 / GW 150   (achieved Aug 14 '11)

 

 

determineddanni
on 11/16/12 12:44 am

my dietician told me to lower my protein when i was taking in 150-175g. i got rid of her. yes i did! because i gave her a packet on the ds and how much we absorb and obviously she didn't read it. i don't want to have medical personnel telling me what do do when they don't even take the time to learn. we don't absorb protein well so yes you would have to ingest A LOT to get to the point where you are eating to much protein. when i was playing softball i upped my protein to 185+ and boy did it help. now i sit at around 150 since i have been not working...just being a bum lol

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