I made a mistake, but you live and learn, had a no-no to eat last night and today

mgpm
on 5/30/09 9:01 am
Yes, I'm on Nexium.  I'm stopping the grape juice.
linda1814
on 5/30/09 10:33 am
 There is a sugar free powdered grape juice drink from Ocean Spray that I didn't think was so bad that you might like.  

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Nopenname
on 5/30/09 10:55 am - Tacoma, WA
I can't say to how smart the choice of individual foods was considering I freaking eat everything in sight that walks, flies, or swims. I had a hamburger patty at two weeks out and it went down like heaven, hell just last weekend I had grilled jalapeno poppers. To top off my inanity,  my surgeon's after care instructions were to still be on CLEAR liquids until the ninteenth of this month and I totally threw that out the window because I felt ill, tired, and horrible ALL THE TIME until I started eating (and I compared his rny geared practice to other surgeons). So I KNOW that you CAN eat so soon after the DS and be perfectly fine if not better than you were previous to eating. It is few and far between but some of us are fab.

HOWEVER, I will recommend in the future, to do foods ONE AT A TIME. This part is what I consider to be the absolute essential once you start eating whenever that is. That way you're not regretting it later and have no idea what caused the problem. I have a list, in my head of things I KNOW I can eat. And am steadily adding to it. Go as simple as humanly possible in the beginning.


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I'm pretty sure bacon tastes as good as thin feels!
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Bronwen
on 5/30/09 11:06 am - Wilmington, DE
I can see you've already gotten a bunch of "tough love" here, so I'll be more tender than tough.

Be gentle to the new tummy.  Look here for a good guide of what you should be eating and when.  I always had a cast-iron stomach, and found that it was still quite hardy after surgery.  I progressed a little faster than this particular schedule, but it was with the blessing of my nutritionist (who's awesome).  I think the salad was probably what got you - raw vegetables are chock-full of insoluble fiber and pretty difficult to digest early out.  FWIW, a lot of us found ground beef to be more difficult to tolerate than steak (illogical, I know!).  I, personally, found chicken to be the hardest on my stomach, but YMMV.

Take it easy on the new stomach.  It's probably still a little swollen.  You need to give it a full month at least to heal and recover from surgery.

And now for my own early-out bonehead move - at one week out, on my birthday, I had my husband get me a roast beef sandwich from Arby's.  I figured it was very thinly shaved meat and good protein.  I pitched the bun, and very slowly ate about 1/4 of the meat - one shaving at a time.  You'd think it would be easy to digest, right?  Nope!  Sent me running to the toilet, heaving it back up.  That experience taught me to Follow. The. Directions.  I hope your experience last night gives you the same insight.

Good luck, and make good choices!
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KRWaters
on 5/30/09 11:53 am - Manteca, CA

Thanx Bronwen for your tact in setting me straight. I admit I overdid it, but I admitted my guilt. I tried the food a bit and it went down okay and stayed down.  I am sure it was the onions that did me in (didn't have much vegetables), because the next day had more onions when it did a number on me again. No upchucking, just loose stool, I am glad I am back to basics for a bit longer. Giving my tummy easier foods to digest.

KAREN W. 


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MsBatt
on 5/31/09 1:18 am
On May 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM Pacific Time, KRWaters wrote:

Thanx Bronwen for your tact in setting me straight. I admit I overdid it, but I admitted my guilt. I tried the food a bit and it went down okay and stayed down.  I am sure it was the onions that did me in (didn't have much vegetables), because the next day had more onions when it did a number on me again. No upchucking, just loose stool, I am glad I am back to basics for a bit longer. Giving my tummy easier foods to digest.

I'm 5.5 years post-op, and grilled onions can still do a number on me. Raw, I can eat all of them I want, but grilled---nope. I can eat them in moderation, but should I eat them two days in a row, I suffer for it.

But I know that you know better than to be eating them this early out. The beef and salad, too.
ladynitewolf
on 5/30/09 1:22 pm - BFE, CA
You know what, Karen? You really need to go back and read your binder. You know, the one you got at your orientation with Dr. K? Because frankly you are giving him a bad name. Saying that he told you protein and water and that's it? Not the case and you damn well know it.

Let me refresh your memory. From the section of the binder called "Diet Guidelines - Post Operative Nutrition."

Your foods should be soft, lactose-free, low fat, with low sugar content and limited carbohydrates.

The first month you must adhere to the food list below or the inpatient hospital list depending on the surgeon's orders.
* egg
* lactose-free protein powder
* protein bars (low carbohydrates
* Mashed potatoes add mashed tofu or unflavored protein powder
* Morningstar soy products
* Tempeh
* Healthy-choice soups or any other low fat type soups - no pasta or large chunks of meat, add tofu, add pureed chicken breast or unflavored protein powder
* Tuna, moist fish such as salmon, orange roughy, mackerel, imitation crab, shrimp, etc
* Baked chicken breast or dark meat in broth or fat free, milk free sauce
* Peanut butter on crackers
* Turkey bacon
* Tofu and Tofu Rella Cheese products
* Low-fat crackers
* Yogurt - light, no fruit. Add unflavored protein powder for extra protein
* Adding plain yogurt to rice and mashed potatoes
* Oatmeal, cream of wheat, grits
* Soymilk, rice milk, lactaid milk
* Cottage cheese if you can tolerate it
* WATER is your fluid of choice!


Hmmm. Let's see. Nothing, but nothing about any form of beef, lettuce or onion on there. For the first month. Later on, after the first important month, you are supposed to add things in one at a time to see if you tolerate them. And let's see: "MEAT MAY TAKE SOME TIME - many people tolerate this after a FEW months." Absolutely nothing about having it right out of the box.

Stop thinking you know it all. YOU DON'T! Go back to mushy and pureed foods. And for God's sake, get your head screwed on straight! You're a revision for crying out loud. You should be taking it TWICE as easy as a virgin DS because you've got not one but TWO suture lines on that stomach of yours. And it seems to me that you are determined to break even a virgin DS.

~ Sarah P. 
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Elizabeth N.
on 5/31/09 10:12 am - Burlington County, NJ
I see we need to let Dr. K. know that SOMEONE, at least, read his instructions :-).
SometimesBlonde
on 5/30/09 1:32 pm - NE
You know, I was able to eat like that right out of the hospital, with my surgeon's blessing. Hamburger has been my go to food from the beginning. The onions would cause me misery though. They did pre-op, and they still do. I can't do hotdogs either, but other than that, I've had a cast iron stomach since surgery.

Karen, I would probably pass on the lettuce and bread for a while. It does take up valuable protein real estate in your tiny tummy.  I know that many of the posters have surgeons who severely restricted their intake post-op, but for those of us who didn't, it's a trial and error thing. I lived on hamburger, Wendy's chili, and grilled chicken breast for the first two months. All the things that other's said caused them discomfort. Try a little of whatever, if it doesn't bite back, then enjoy it.

Try to avoid the carbs as much as possible and get your protein in daily. It's working for me. I'm at 50% EWL at 4 months out. Here's hoping you'll be at least as successful as I am.

Joyce
 HW 290 / SW 275 / CW 143 / GW 160
Ms. Cal Culator
on 5/30/09 2:32 pm - Tuvalu
First,  bravo to the frustrated but honest old timers.

Then, for the newbies, I seldom even visit OH anymore (and I'm not particularly interested in who is glad about that) and haven't posted in forever.  But the SSDD factor here was just so monumentally emblematic of those who are determined to self-destruct, I could not resist responding.

Next, any Keshishian patient who does not know that his ENTIRE patient workbook--including dietary guidelines--is distributed to every patient AND is available online, has his or her head firmly inserted in the nearest available anal orifice. 
www.dssurgery.com/ourprogram/patient_workbook.php

Additionally, there was a time that some doctors wanted to give a kind of IQ test to those who wanted any WLS.  Some people were appalled.  Those who need proof of why that wasn't such a bad idea, need only stand by.

Finally, I'm 3.5 years out...I lost about 125 pounds, regained--bad habits and drugs that lead to weight gain--about 20 pounds.  I'm off the drugs and back at the gym.  But those 20 pounds are MY doing and I know how to make them go away.  It's a little harder to do when every member of the family takes turns with multiple hosptial admissions and you spend DAYS on end eating cafeteria/vending machine food and getting zero exercise.  But it can be done.

Karen, stop doing things that will give Keshishian a bad reputation.  Keep track of your medications and testing equipment.  Follow the guidelines.  And for cryin' out loud, please stop saying that you have learned from THIS mistake until you can produce some evidence that you really have.

Sue






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