I made a mistake, but you live and learn, had a no-no to eat last night and today

So BF and I go tto our favorite Greek/American restaurant in Stockton and I see a ground beef sirloin burger on the menu with grilled onions. How bad can that be. I get it and a small salad with blue cheese dressing(never liked blue cheese, but thought I would give it a whirl) and a side of cottage cheese. Good protein. Later last night, my stomach was not doing too well. Didn't know if it was the salad, the blue cheese or the teeny tiny piece of bread (I know I shouldn't have). So I had a good run (TMI) on the toilet last night. Today for lunch had my leftover meat and grilled onions. Can we say T E R R I B L E!! It must have been the onions. Holy moly. They wrecked havoc with my innards. Now I know when they say "tearing me up inside." So what has any one had early out that they realized was a mistake?

Wow - at ten days out, I was on full liquids - I can't imagine being able to eat any of that.  At 8 months out, I am just now trying salad ... but gosh, your poor stomach!  There's no way I could have eaten those things that early!!

I was a slow learner when it came to realizing that I was lactose intolerant.  I had mostly milk and yogurt from the 2nd week to the 6th week before realizing that the pain, gas, and diarrhea I had was because of the lactose and not just the result of surgery.

What are your surgeon's post-op guidelines?  Mine were:

Week 1 - clear liquids
Week 2 & 3 - full liquids
Week 4, 5, & 6 - begin pureed & soft foods

Introduce other foods SLOWLY after that.  (Think of babies and how slowly we introduce food to their new tummies!)  Going slowly also helps to identify problem foods ....

 

I still have trouble with burgers. The beef has to be Angus, or my stomach wont tolerate it at all. Salads are and have been a no no for me for quite some time. Even early out. Onions, no problem.

At your stage, I was scared as hell to order from a restaurant. Figured I couldn't eat anything on the menu. I'm very careful about eating out, unless it's seafood. Or egg fu yung. Take it easy with the ground beef.

Dana

Wow Karen --  First I'm happy that you were feeling well enough to be out and about !  Having said that I'd offer some tough love and suggest you re-read the guidance from your Dr on appropriate food choices at 2 wks post op.  I know you read the board religiously, did you really think those were good food choices so early out? A salad at 2 weeks out?  I read posts every week of folks months out having trouble with salad.  The handouts I got had lettuce and onions in the beyond Stage 3 category (meaning 3 months out). 

The trauma you cause your stomach with inappropriate foods will slow down your healing.  It's better to go slow and heal fast than try to speed to 'normal' with food and heal slow.

Just my opinion anyway. 

Deb

One of the mistakes I think a lot of people make is thinking that because Karen posts so much, that she actually reads, also.  Doesn't seem to be the case.  Most people come here to support and learn; she just seems to come here to blab & complain (about the problems she causes herself), and doesn't learn a thing.  Scary.

Karen,
I have read your posts here for a couple of years. As you can see from my join date, I have been on OH for many years. I have had a Lapband, had it removed, and a conversion to the DS. I think that I have the knowledge to comment on your self imposed self sabotage here.

Why would you fight so hard for the DS and simply completely **** UP the aftercare instructions? There is no way in hell that your doctor has recommended that you eat ground sirloin, a f*cking salad for god's sake, and blue cheese. That is totally ludicris. I was on FULL LIQUIDS for three weeks. What in the hell are you doing to your "innocent, trying-to-heal" insides? Do you not know how important it is to follow the aftercare program and allow yourself to heal properly?

You need to hear the truth for once, Karen. You can block me or whatever you wish to do. Please keep in mind that their are lurkers and newbies here that read these posts and your comments and your actions may sway others to have that stupid, rediculous Ruined and Why surgery.

For the sake of getting the DS accepted as an alternative to the "ruined and why", please consider your actions and your postings about these actions for those considering the DS.

Thank you for reading,
Vanessa

 In Karen's defense, not all doctor's post-op dietary suggestions are the same.  When I was able to eat in the hospital I had one day of liquids, and the next day was cleared to eat WHATEVER I wanted from then on out.  I followed my stomach's guidance and stuck with somewhat softer foods initially, but was eating turkey slices probably 2 weeks out.  No problem and under my doctor's instructions.

All I'm saying is that every doctor is different.  I personally wouldn't choose to eat beef and salad 11 days out, but that's me.  It doesn't sound like Karen's post is condoning eating this way.  In fact it sounds like she is admitting a mistake, so why jump on her?  And since we do not know her doctor's orders, why not give her the benefit of the doubt?  

Leelee-

I agree with you that Karen's post is not condoning eating that way, but she DID IT.

Some newbie could come across that, and say "Wow, she's eating that way, I will, too!" then totally F*** UP their  new DS, end up in the emergency room, needing  emergency surgery to save thier lives.

It's common sense that if you have surgery on your digestive system, especially a BIG surgery like the DS, that you treat it gently,  with liquids and soft foods, until your doctor says it's ok to eat more solid type foods. 

I'm just now eating salad, and I ate cole slaw for the first time yesterday.  I'm 3 months out.

 

 

 I respectfully disagree.  Her post clearly states that she made a mistake, has learned from it, and that it hurt like hell.  I would think that a newbie would learn what NOT to do from her post.

~Leelee~

Point well taken. 

I replied to another post of KR's where she was getting excited about ribs for her birthday. 

I also replied to this post, asking her to help me understand why she was eating the way she is eating. 

I truly DO NOT want anyone on here to get the wrong idea about how long it takes before you can "eat anything you want" with a DS. 

Just like most worthwhile endeavors, it is a process, and I'm concerned that's a truth that has been lost on KR. 

I recognize that she admitted it was a mistake, but the real issue is that she should have known it was a mistake before she ate it.

That being said, everyone is different, but the majority of material I've read, including my own regarding post-op diets, has full liquids and pureed foods for at least the first 4 to 6 weeks., for healing purposes. 

It's just like having a baby, no whoopie for six weeks!

I had my ass chewed on here before when I was a newbie, and everyone sided with the chewer. 

I'm just saying that the chewer  in this case does have a point, although it was not made in a very diplomatic way!