DS Pioneer Gives Up On DS - For Lapband???

  

You go!  Nailed her incompliant arse didn't ya?  Funny when I went to school it was non compliant.  LOL

Shannon: Please post the names and journals with the articles that Dr. Simpson has published on DS or in fact any weight loss surgery. I checked with the National Library of Medicine and he  isn't listed as the author of a single article on duodenal switch, RNY, or the lapband. In fact, his name does not come up in a search for "bariatric" in journals that are listed in the National Library of Medicine. Publishing in a reputable medical journal is where doctors share information that has been validated and peer reviewed. You speak so authoritatively on his published articles that have been "disseminated to many, many surgeons doing the DS." Please share so we can read them. Thanks.

Nancy, before I saw your post, I ALSO went to the Entrez-PubMed site of the NLM.  Nothing, nada, not ONE publication by Terry Simpson on either the DS or the LapBand.  Shannon is a almost certainly a troll, and full of sh*t -- and if she isn't, her surgeon is a liar and she was treated to the "bait and don't switch."  I've never seen ONE patient of her alleged surgeon with a DS either, and I've been part of the DS world for over 5 years.  There has NEVER been a DS surgeon in South Carolina. Now, more about Simpson (Paul, as usual, is WAY late to the game, though he thinks this is a news flash). There was a thread about Simpson's abandoning the DS on February 5, 2006, on the DS forum.  The thread was entitled "Response from Dr. Simpson" at http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/DS/postdetail/73867.html?v c=0 and oddly enough, it is no longer accessible.  Makes you go hmmm, doesn't it?  However, I have an email showing a response to my post on that thread, reproduced here:

Your post:

RE: Response from Dr. Simpson I am dismayed, disappointed and dismissive about Dr. Simpson's statement. I have been hearing about this change for months, and since I met him in the past, I wrote directly to Dr. Simpson to get it "from the horse's mouth." He denied this was his intent, twice (as I recall -- my hard drive crashed and I know I ASKED him twice, but can't prove whether I got an answer the second time I asked, but if you look back here many months, you will find that I posted his answer the first time at least). Well, now it sounds like what I got from him was from the other end of the horse if this is in fact what Dr. Terry Simpson is now saying.  The DS changes your metabolism, and the LapBand doesn't. It is the switch part of the DS that maintains the weight loss, and the statistics are clear that LapBanders don't lose as much and many regain after a while, whereas DSers are much less likely to regain much.  I totally do NOT believe this statement to be true. I suspect there are other reasons behind his change of heart. I know that he had refused for some time to perform the DS on out-of-state patients, perhaps because of follow-up inconsistency, but this does not explain his current statement. There must be more to it.  I asked him once in an online chat if he had to have WLS which would he have, and he said it depended where he lived, but if he was anywhere near CA, it would be the DS with the Rabkins.  It is interesting that his website still says the DS is the primary weight loss surgery of his practice: http://www.drsimpson.com/aboutsurgery.php I would look into coming to CA to have the DS, rather than suffer with a LapBand. Living on a low fat, low carb, low volume, low variety diet for the rest of my life, compared to how I live with my DS, is not something I would accept.

Kari Waggoner's reply:

RE: Response from Dr. Simpson Diana, Here's one thread from 6/12/2005 in which you mention an email from Dr. Simpson... http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/DS/postdetail/28598.html?vc=0 Here is your post to the thread...  "I saw a posting referencing Dr. Simpson not doing the DS on the duodenalswitch.com message board earlier this morning, and since I have an occasional email correspondence with Dr. Simpson, I sent him a link to that thread, and here is his reply: "We don't do out of state patients-- that is all. I am, in fact, writing a book about the duodenal switch -- which will come out soon. Rumors abound, though. Terry" That's the answer, from the horse's mouth."  Did that book ever materialize I wonder and if so... how would a book about the DS from a doctor who doesn't do and apparently doesn't believe in the long term efficacy of the DS have any credibility? Hope this helps, Kari

Now, here is another odd thing: the posting Kari found http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/DS/postdetail/28598.html?vc=0  is also no longer accessible.  Makes you go hmmm, doesn't it?  Simpson is a paying sponsor on OH, and I'm willing to bet they delete my post because of it as well.

And I just found a copy of the original post in the Response from Dr. Simpson thread, although I don't have saved who sent it: Below is a copy of the reply I got from Dr Simpson's office via email today. I would like to know if you guys agree with the statement regarding the results from Lap Band,,,that they are the same as DS 3 years out,,,,I am kinda having a hard time believing that one...some input would be appreciated...Hope I am not overstepping my alloted questions for the day!!! LOL 'We no longer perform the DS, but there are no other surgeons who as a matter of routine perform this operation in the area. The data is very clear that when we compare our patients of lap band with DS, that at three years the weight loss is the same, and the lap band patients have far fewer issues-- which is why we changed' " I have heard these rumors for months, and asked Simpson a couple of times, but he denied it was true.  Now this.  What's up with him?? We all know that what Simpson said comparing the results is a bunch of hooey.  I wouldn't let the guy touch me, that's for damned sure.

don't expect any peer reviewed medical studies supporting her unsubstantiated claims to be posted because the truth is - it's all made up in her head.

Now that she knows she has no legs to stand on, she's resorting to childish name calling on the R&R forum:

Shannon_Elizabeth Sherman C. Smith M.D., F.A.C.S.RNY (01/02/08) Member Since: 02/25/08 [Latest Posts]

Post Date: 3/3/08 4:42 pm Topic: RE: OT~RELIGIOUS CONTENT~If offended by such content, please feel free to NOT OPEN LeeAnne, your brain is warped from downing the fish food pellets in place of Flagyl.  They clearly state "unfit for human consumption" DUH and yet you advertise you take them.  Now, there is a true MORON.  As for FastFingers, I'll put my fast fingers up against hers any day of the week, and my education.  Listen Miss Potty Mouth who can't even speak the English language YAWL need to get a life. Now, as for the fish pellets, maybe you have an ongoing STD we don't know about either, but in any case you are a MORON.  You are nothing without your little gang behind you.  Come on Peach time to get into gear now and attack mode for your friend LeaAnne, you to Miss Obnoxious is it J.W. (with the filthiest mouth around).  Go worship your spaghetti monster, it's as warped as you all are.

 

rather sad isn't it? 

Sad indeed.  I'm not going back to the chaff forum of intellectually challenged vultures for her.  I addressed the issues here in intelligent debate.  If she wants to discuss this further, she can come back here and address the issue like an educated adult and not a ranting lunatic.  Doubt that'll happen.  She's in WAY over her head here on this forum.

I couldn't agree more and am very sure that's why she ran over there so she could act like a 2 y/o LOL

FYI...The surgeon you have listed as your surgeon actually doesn't do the DS. He's very pro-RNY. If he really did talk you out of the DS, then I think that's a shame. I guess it's not surprising though. Personally, I've found that doctors who don't do the DS generally talk people into an RNY. They just aren't going to recommend a surgery that they don't perform.  If you truly were interested in a DS, you probably should have met with a DS surgeon to talk about it before deciding. I hate hearing about people who talked into getting a different surgery than the one they really wanted. But I hope you are still happy with your RNY.

A surgeon's followup results will only be as good as his followup plan, and from what I saw of Dr. Terry Simpson's postop instructions for DSers, it was painfully deficient in calcium recommendations.  I would imagine he'd have quite a few patients with problems based on that regime.  APPROPRIATE SUPPLEMENTATION is essential post DS.  I disagree that the DS will no longer be being done in a few years.  There's too much demand for it because of the quality of life.  People that value a quality life will be willing to supplement appropriately in order to have it.