Slipped a sugar "mickey"

ISABELLA B.
on 7/25/04 12:49 am - STRATFORD, CT
I THINK ALL OF THESE COMMENTS ARE ULTIMATELY MEANT TO HELP ALL OF US - SO LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND AND REMEMBER OLD HABITS DIE HARD - BUT WE ARE WORKING HARD ON THEM - I KNOW YOU WILL TAKE SOMETHING AWAY FROM WHAT SEEMS TO BE HARSH CRITISISM IF YOU WANT TO - IT IS ONLY BECAUSE WE CARE PETER - WHAT IS THE MYLANTA USED FOR? I AM NEW AT THIS
Peter Ligas
on 7/25/04 7:41 am - East Haddam, CT
RNY on 12/30/02 with
I am a member of a board which has one person who lost all of his excess weight within 6 months, and now preaches. Pardon me if I sounds the same. I struggle like everyone I know does. Yes, old habits die hard. At the age of 50, and being morbidly obese for more than 3/4 of my lifetime, I certainly know. Any suggestion is made with great thought and care. If I sound demeening, please understand that we all make choices, and what a waste it would be for this surgery to not find a way SOMEHOW to break the poor choices and find better ones. I am not perfect by any means. Since I own an Ice Cream and Candy store, you can imagin what my daily diet consists of. Yet, I still find a way to make some good choices along with the others. It does take work, and we will all work on it for the rest of our lives. Our support makes the difference between suscess and failure. Now for the Mylanta. It is a antacid with symethicone (sp). That is an ingredient which allows the covering of a gas bubble to break easily, forming one large bubble which can be released by a burp or passed out the body otherwise. Some of the time, the problem with a gas bubble is that it backflows towards the stomach remiment and becomes difficult to release. I personally know of people which even have people beat on their bac****il black and blue in order to try to gt it to release. In a largre, single bubble, it can move easier than in a multitude of small bubbles. So, if you are prone to having gas, prefer not to burp to releas it, and would like to try to prevent the pain, keep Mylanta, Phasyme, or GasEx close at hand.
beckyw
on 7/25/04 1:03 am - Somewhere in, AZ
Peter - Thanks for your post. As for my meal choice... sure there were better options but as you said, I don't want to debate it either. Again, this was not the point of my post. As for drinking with a meal, I sip a couple of times to help the meal go down. It works for me but generally I save the drinking for well after the meal. I've also sipped a whole diet coke by itself before with no problem. Again, it works for me. Not sure what your point about medical intervention was but I was the one explaining WLS, it's complications, sugar's lethality, etc. etc. to the doctors and nurses. Yes, it was frustrating. As for vomiting, I thought the soda/sugar might still be in the pouch but I found out that wasn't the case. Lesson learned. Believe me if I could have rode the pain out at home I would have. The ER, however, had the meds I needed to stop the pain and I feared I would pull other muscles or do other damage as I writhed and moaned in pain. Thanks for the Mylanta tip. I've now got a big bottle on hand. becky
Peter Ligas
on 7/25/04 7:59 am - East Haddam, CT
RNY on 12/30/02 with
I am going to go back to the point of drinking with a meal. Even a few sips can and will wash some of the food out of the pouch, and you will need to eat more to get the "full feeling". Isn't that what you want to avoid...eating more in order to get full? I just my thoughts on the matter. I have had soda also, but prefer to avoid it like the plague. I used to drink 2+ gals of diet CF Coke daily. I would have no trouble drinking maybe a gal a day, but what for?? Just not worth it to me. I do drink for flavor, so see me with some kind of flavored water wherever I am. Yes, the medical professionals do not know much about a gastric bypass surgical patient. Don't expect it will change any time soon either. Figure on education those who have to take care of you for a LONG TIME to come. And be DARN SURE you do, for your benefit. It is your body, and no one should provide any care which, well meaning or not, can put you at risk for injury. I have been fortunate to have had only one of those incidents in my 19 months post-op. A good belch has preventd any reoccurances. Sorry for the graphics.
LMCLILLY
on 7/26/04 12:19 am - Central, CT
Pete- I'm with you on the being concerned on several levels about this post. First, to the poster...and everyone else that reads this... we must all learn things in our own way in our own time. Several people here have given helpful thoughts, wether or not they were the intention of the post. Please listen to them. They are all valid My thoughts... 1. Sorry about your sugar mickey. It stinks when that happens. You're probably very right to consider never ordering something that you don't personally have control of the sugar in. It's happened to me more than once, but I've been lucky enough to catch it quick. I am VERY leery about this issue and drive throughs especially, since I can't SEE them pour my drink. 2. Inducing vomiting at your stage is a danger to your pouch. Please discuss this with your surgeon. Drinking liquids will not stop a sugar dump, though it may move it along more quickly. 3. Please at least think about your choices at this point... we have rules and guidelines for a reason. Not because they are fun or convenient, but because they are what we need to do for long term success and to change our eating habits PERMANENTLY in order not to fail. Just food for thought... 4. Sorry if you're getting advice that wasn't the point of your post. But, we, generally, as helpful caring people, will not sit back and watch when we think someone may be making a mistake that could harm them. If we criticize or correct- it's because we CARE. Not because we want to slam you or make you feel bad. That's it. Now on to Pete...I know your advice wasn't asked for, and I tend to give it when I see something that needs to be pointed out too. I personally appreciate what you've tried to do by pointing out some areas for improvment, even though the poster may not have, personally. I think perhaps you may help others as well with your thoughts. Thanks for saying what needed to be said and pointing out the pink elephant in the room. love to you all... Lisa C
kfelker
on 7/26/04 1:26 am - Fairfield, CT
Good morning. Just my two cents here. I understand the posters and their concerns about eating choices and behaviors. I think Lisa was probably looking for constructive ideas for a difficult situation she got into. We do need to be very cautious, especially in the early stages, with what we eat and drink. Heck, I haven't had a carbonated soda yet! (Don't want the gas...) However, we need to bear in mind that this person is reaching out and we don't want to be judgmental. We're all human, we've all (or at least most of us)eaten things we shouldn't, so we should try to go back to that place when we felt embarrassed and scared and needed a push in the right direction, with empathy. That's it. Lisa, please don't make yourself throw up -- never a particularly good idea. And try your best to make good food choices ... I know how hard it is sometimes, but you'll feel a lot better having eaten something healthy. And keep your chin up! Kathy F.
Peter Ligas
on 7/26/04 11:57 pm - East Haddam, CT
RNY on 12/30/02 with
It sure was nice to see you at group meeting last night. It's so hard to you at you now being so skinny and believe that you were ever overweight. You look more like the people which we would see when we were MO and grumble under our breath over, thinking... "Wait until ** and you get to this size!" You and your friend are a precious pair. It is wonderful to find someone to share the rest of a much longer life with that understands, appreciates, and lives all the things you have and will. You are lucky. Peter
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