gained vent

Miss Ladybug
on 11/17/11 2:43 pm - Folsom, CA
Hello, my name is Annabelle, and I had kaiser.  I called Obesity Law, and we applealed Kaiser and WON...........They outsourced me to UC Davis.  You do not have to lose weight before surgery. 

Good Luck
 NEVER GIVE UP .. 355 higest, 312 WLS day, 135 current, no longer OBEASE,, lost 220, and IM AT GOAL!!!!!!
MacMadame
on 11/18/11 4:17 am - Northern, CA
Good for you!

There is no evidence-based reason to make people lose 10% of their weight. Now, some people find it easy so it's easier to just lose it than to fight, but I know someone who took FOUR YEARS to lose theirs. That's 4 years they could have been enjoying better health and a better quality of life and I think it's medical malpratice on Kaiser's part to force everyone to lose 10% of their body weight.

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Miss Ladybug
on 11/18/11 7:37 am - Folsom, CA

Absolutely Kaiser is practicing malpractice! Kasier told me it's not Kaiser, it's the surgeons who will not do the surgery, unless the patient loses 10%.  It took about a year after I started the apeal process.  I also tried to lose the wieght for over a year, and nothing.....I thought I would never have gotten this surgery, but thanks to a OH member, she posted and told me about DMHC.............My surgen said my surgery was text book perfect, im almost 4 years out and still have my weight off....Im between 125 - 130 lbs............

 NEVER GIVE UP .. 355 higest, 312 WLS day, 135 current, no longer OBEASE,, lost 220, and IM AT GOAL!!!!!!
MacMadame
on 11/18/11 2:51 pm - Northern, CA
 "Kasier told me it's not Kaiser, it's the surgeons who will not do the surgery, unless the patient loses 10%. "

Did you believe them? I don't. I can't see how every single one of their surgeons all agree on this when so many surgeons outside of Kaiser don't agree.

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larra
on 11/23/11 12:30 am - bay area, CA
You can appeal, and you can win. You have already lost almost a year. Hopefully your health has not deteriorated during that time, but it certainly isn't improving, as it could have had you had your surgery. How much longer do you want to wait?
     Here's the DMHC's position paper on required pre-op weight loss:



http://www.dmhc.ca.gov/aboutTheDMHC/org/boards/cap/Bariatric REV.pdf 

You can pm me for more info.

Larra
Samantha L.
on 11/29/11 10:11 am - Petaluma, CA
 I went to Kaiser South San Francisco and I thought all was lost when they told me that I had to lose weight before surgery.  I was like "What?  If I could lose weight, why the hell would I WANT surgery!?!"  Thankfully, I followed the diet they gave me and lost 27 lbs in about 3 weeks.  
  I believe the rational behind the pre-op diet is 1. to see if you are serious about committing to losing weight.. the surgery doesn't do all the work for you.  You have to change eating habits and really commit to a lifestyle change. and 2. To shrink your liver.   Do I think a LIQUID diet is required?  No.  Not at all.  I never had to suffer through a liquid diet.. not before surgery or after.  My pre-op diet was high protein, low carb, no sugar, no caffeine.  I was never hungry.  
  I am in no way defending Kaiser, I am just saying that for *me* the pre-op diet was an eye opener and great preparation for what was to come.  If your eating habits are the issue, then it might be a good idea to confront those before surgery.  If it's a medical issue (metabolic problems or whatever) then it is completely unreasonable for them to expect you to be able to lose the weight and you should definitely fight it.  
  Either way, I wish you luck!!
        

     
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