Attacked for hating diets and MY surgery choice.

(deactivated member)
on 5/24/08 5:56 am - San Jose, CA
Amazing.  Over four years on OH and you still don't understand the first thing about the DS surgery.  I can only guess that you either cannot process what you don't want to believe, or you are a DS alter going around asking leading questions so the DS Seniors can answer and promulgate information to the pre-ops (and those unfortunate failed post-ops of other procedures now looking into a revision). I'm not going to reiterate the nutritional information that was already provided by Rock, other than to say OH.PUHLEEZE.  This has been explained many many times.  Most of us have better labs than most of you, especially the RNYers.  See, for example, the comparisons in these papers: http://files.meetup.com/379062/DUODENAL%20SWITCH%20LONG-TERM %20RESULTS.pdf http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/91/11/4223 The latter paper REALLY describes how bad the RNY results are long term and was written by non-DS bariatrics surgeons. Assuming you quote Dr. Keshishian correctly (and I'm not sure you did, because I'm willing to bet he said you COULD have stinky BMs, rather than you WILL), he certainly was warning against the DS  -- for the shallow type of person who would care more about how their sh*t smells than about their overall health and quality of life.  Did you not get that??  You certainly don't qualify for the DS by that standard, and I'm glad you chose a different procedure. Almost all of the POTENTIAL side effects of the DS can be ameliorated to a large degree by chosing which foods to eat, or when to eat them, by taking some supplements, including probiotics (which EVERYONE should be taking, just we tend to take a bit more of them), and by not eating a LOT of sugar or other carbs.  All in all, a lot easier to live with and to maintain one's weight than other surgeries. So please go on with your posts about how bad the DS is -- and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't consider a revision to the DS for yourself should you ever need one.  You can't handle the very simple "DS Rules," trust me. 
jilliecats
on 5/24/08 6:11 am
God Bless America for the freedom to speak one's opinion and for the freedom to have different opinions.  Happy Memorial Day and remember the fallen who paid the ultimate price so we can voice our own opinions. Jill Harper

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(deactivated member)
on 5/24/08 6:22 am - San Jose, CA
Passive-aggressive much?
LeaAnn
on 5/24/08 6:57 am - Huntsville, AL
On May 20, 2008 at 10:21 PM Pacific Time, jilliecats wrote:
Hi Sweetie!  I have to say that I fall on your side of the coin with this issue.  I did not see what you wrote before, but I did notice that I was not answered by Diana OR Rock when I asked about the healthiness of eating food like Rock insists they eat or the fact that their **** does stink, and wayyyyy worse because they are passing undigested, rotten like food.  Before I get jumped on by DSers, I had a consult with a doctor that they, the DSers, deem to be like a God, Dr. Ara Kesishian (spelling??) and when I asked him about the stinky **** his EXACT words were, "You have to make a choice - you will have bowel movements that are offensive due to their odor if you choose the DS.  If you don't like this unpleasant side effect, the DS is not for you."  This is exactly why I chose the RNY. Don't let anyone chase you away, honey, cause we gotta do Vegas, baby!! Much love and hugs to you! Jillie 

"You have to make a choice - you will have bowel movements that are offensive due to their odor if you choose the DS.  If you don't like this unpleasant side effect, the DS is not for you."

Sounds very reasonable to me.  If you are one that is preoccupied with having offensive-smelling **** then the DS is NOT for you.  Most people I know, tho, don't really care what that which they are flushing away smells like anyhow.  I don't know why "stinking up the bathroom" is such an issue for some.  There are air fresheners and candles and exhaust fans for those problems.  It is certainly WORTH it in exchange for the benefits of the DS.

Furthermore, the food we pass isn't "rotten."  It passes through our body QUICKER and is less "rotten" than food coming out of a person with normal digestion.  I'm sure Dr. K. didn't tell you that part. 

Rockne
on 5/21/08 6:53 pm, edited 5/26/08 10:56 am - South Orange County, CA
My, goodness, Girl...Love your ***** and continued posturing! Look at you.. A year out, or very nearly so, and you're a testament of success in your weight loss achievements. You look terrific by the way! "Hot "even, if you'll permit a personal observation, and yes, it is sincere and most well deserved. Congratulations! But given your remarkable, enviable weight loss, it would seem obvious, your ego and need for projection has not undergone a similar transformation. Let me be crystal clear here....! The fact you would even entertain the notion what you do or say would ever cause me to hold you at a level of IMPORT to try an engineer driving you away from this board, or that of any other forum, demonstrates a level of SELF-PERCEIVED, SELF-IMPORTANCE beyond anyone in recent memory at my experience level, and I deal with Attorneys and Doctors routinely. Talk about egos! Franky, missy, we're mostly in agreement. Research is key for all those contemplating WLS, but you called into question my very integrity, motivation and my choice of surgery and cast me aside with everyone who elected to choose my surgery type. Doing so without proper foundation, dearest, and you are asking for, at the very least, my reasoned reply. Please be advised, I was rather gentile with you and I can be formidable combatant when I perceive there is just cause... Intellectually speaking.... Come after me to a fight armed with no more than a pen knife and I'll  enjoy the savoring at requalifying in my expert designation  as a marksman in small arms. Personally, I like both forms of weaponries but, I'll likely like drop an opponent with a "single" well placed center shot. Knifes generally lose out to firearms, dearest... Further, how is it "I" might be responsible for making you look bad??? Goodness, girl, I do more than MY fair share of misdeeds and make every effort to take responsibility and make amends for them. So how is it by virtue of your words and deeds am I now saddled with being responsible for your behavior??? Phew! That's ONE healthy projected leap! Not terribly uncommon, though, where it would seem nearly everyone in this liberal society wishes to place blame on anyone or thing other than their OWN behavior! But as stated, I really like your ***** and don't have a lot more time to debate issue. But fear not, dear lady... You have expressed an interest in restating your viewpoints and I couldn’t be more pleased. There are couple thousand hits on your comments and that of mine on a post to the main board which, via moderation, has now been transferred to the R&R board. Do please be my guest... http://tinyurl.com/4laxun Continued success and thank you for your contributions... Warmly, Rock
Leslie
on 5/24/08 1:37 pm
Hi Rock! I've missed you at the last couple of SCADS meetings!! Come out and play next time, will ya?!! Just wanted to show you some Cali DS love here!! And maybe share a bit of my story for the good folks here! I hate dieting too!! That's why I fought my insurance company for 2 years to get my DS instead of easily getting an RNY. Not that there's anything wrong with the RNY, but I know me! A lifetime of dieting taught me that I suck at it!! Since I wasn't having surgery on my brain, I pthought a procedure with more malabsorption would be better for me! I think I was right. I easily got to goal never dieting at all and enjoying food that I always have. My cholesterol is 93 and life is so good!! Hope to see you soon!

4 Years Post Op: At Goal And STILL Loving My DS!  
340/180/180  ~  5'11"  ~   I lost 160 lbs!!  
LBL & Hernia Repair: Done! Arm Lift: Done! Next Up: Thighs & Boobs!
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Rockne
on 5/25/08 2:09 pm - South Orange County, CA
Ah, Leslie... I've missed ALL of you guys, too! Hope to make the next one. One can't go too long without seeing such a shining beauty and that means you. Thanks for stopping in and don't be a stranger. Big hugs! Rock 
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