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adamandkaylasmom
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on 1/24/10 4:59 am - Siloam Springs, AR
Topic: RE: Rolling down the river....What are you eating?
The only thing I am eating today is Jello, Broth, and water....  UGHHHH  Tomorrow cannot come fast enough!
susandoeshair
on 1/24/10 4:20 am - Alexander, AR
Topic: RE: DS Surgery
I know for sure that Gibbs, Fuller and Baker do not do DS. They all consider it too radical.

The RNY vs. DS fight has been an on going situation on OH, and frankly, it has kept me away from the main board for years. Too much drama and arguing which keeps people from getting good, unbiased info.

Just my 2 cents.

Susan

 

SWJ_81
on 1/24/10 1:43 am - AR
Topic: DS Surgery
Just a curious question-

The debate between RNY and DS is such a strong topic on the OH website.  At this point, I don't think that I would go the DS route, but it seems that during my research I have gotten SO MANY questions from others as to why I don't consider DS instead of RNY.  Sadly- insurance is the main reason.  Does Arkansas even have any doctors that perform the DS surgery (to anyone's knowledge)?
            
SWJ_81
on 1/24/10 1:24 am - AR
Topic: Doctor Ratings and Complaints
Does anyone know exactly how to find out the success/failure rates and any complaints (legal or otherwise) about the various doctors that do WLS in Arkansas?  I have a doctor with whom I am very comfortable for a possible future surgery, but the reality is that EVERY doctor has things they would really not talk about and just forget!  I know that I could ASK him for the information, but I would prefer to find a legit/unbiased way to see his percentage of success/failure with the surgery.  It's just another way that I am trying to research all areas of WLS.  I know there are serious risks with all forms of WLS, but would just like to see his background with it in black and white.
            
susandoeshair
on 1/23/10 10:54 am - Alexander, AR
Topic: RE: Rolling down the river....What are you eating?
Looks a whole lot better than you've been doing, now you're on a roll!  One question; the cranberry juice is sugar free, right? Careful of those calories, my dear

Susan

 

praline
on 1/23/10 7:19 am - Maumelle, AR
Topic: RE: I'm eating, but apparently, alone!
Thank you.  I'm glad I found this site.  You all are looking great and seem so nice!
horselady71742
on 1/23/10 5:57 am - Fordyce, AR
Topic: RE: Rolling down the river....What are you eating?
Sorry Ive been MIA.  We have been really busy finishing up the remodel, re-plumbing the entire house, and installing a new ho****er heater and painting the living room, ALL in one day, and I have been teaching just about every day on top of that, so I had to give something up, and it was easy to drop the  computer.

Yesterday was horrid and we wont talk about yesterdays food.

Today, so far has been pretty good. 

Breakfast-5 bites ham/cheese omelet, one bite hash browns
Lunch-1/2 turkey sandwich and a handful of mixed nuts
Dinner will be boiled shrimp from the chinese buffett.  We are with friends later this evening, so its gonna be dinner out.  I'll just eat boiled shrimp and be a good kid.

Have been drinking cranberry juice allll day, so my liquids are good, and I dont think my food has been to bad, what do ya think??

Hugs to all, Im off to color my hair and go visit w/friends.

Rhonda D.
wendy_fou
on 1/23/10 2:48 am - AR
Topic: RE: Vitamins?
Morning when I start drinking after breakfast:
1 prescription multivitamin (Therobec via Dr Baker prescription)
2 Super 50 B-Complex vitamins
2 Citracal Plus 

After starting to drink after each of my remaining 3 meals throughout the day:
2 Citracal Plus

At bedtime:
5 regular dose sublingual B-12 (usually - although now I'm taking sublingual liquid because they were out of the other the last time I ran out - but i will go back on them as soon as the liquid runs out because i hate the taste of the liquid)

It is DEFINATELY possible to achieve toxicity of a vitamin (although ALMOST impossible with regards to B vitamins). 

You're concerned with A and E you said - but I didn't really understand if you were saying you were concerned with a DEFICIENCY in A and E or TOXICITY of A and E.

With regards to supplementation, the following is according to the bariatric nutrition suggest paper posted by the ASMBS.
 
Vitamin E


Typically RNY post-ops who do not have a HISTORY of vitamin E deficiency maintain adequate levels of vitamin E with just taking their multivitamin alone (and no additional vitamin E supplmentation).  So as long as you're taking your multivitamin, typically that should be enough vitamin E without adding any extra to it.  

Vitamin A


Vitamin A deficiency is a little more prevalent in RNY and lapband post-ops than the regular population (although not nearly as prevalent as in DS patients).  Even among those who ARE vitamin A deficient, vitamin A deficiencies tend to peak around 6 - 9 months post-op (probably because by then you're back onto real foods and eating a varied diet by then so it starts to pick back up with increased fat intake).  Of those who were deficient in vitamin A, 28% were deficient at 6 months, but that had fallen to 17% at a year.  Vitamin A supplementation (in addition to your normal multivitamin) is not typical for RNY post-ops.  As with vitamin E, typically, whatever is in your multivitamin is enough.  (This is NOT true with a long-limb, or distal, RNY post-ops or of course with DS.)

With regards to toxicity, the following is according the National Institute of Health.

Vitamin E


Tolerable Upper Intake Levels (in females over 19) = 1000 mg (1500 IU) 

major adverse effects of too much vitamin E:
hemorragic side effects (ex. increases risk of hemorragic stroke) 
increased overall mortality rate (in doses even below 1000 mg or 1500 IU per day)
interaction with other drugs (ex. anticogulants/antiplatelets, zocor, niacin, chemotherapy, etc)

Overall mortality rates increased in persons taking high doses of vitamin E even well below the upper intake level.  Overall death rates begin to increase in people taking vitamin E in doses of 150 IU.  So since taking more than 150 IU of vitamin E makes it more likely for you to die for apparently any reason, I'd probably think twice about supplementing it with any more than is in your multivitamin unless your serum levels actually show you need it. 

Vitamin A

Tolerable Upper Intake Levels (in females over 19) = 3000 mcg (10,000 IU) 

4 major adverse effects of too much vitamin A:
 birth defects
liver abnormalities
reduced bone mineral density (which may result in osteoporosis)
central nervous system disorders

Toxic symptoms can also arise after consuming very large amounts of preformed vitamin A over a short period of time.
Some signs of acute toxicity include:
nausea
vomiting
headache
dizziness
blurred vision
muscular uncoordination

Considering how we as women, and RNY post-ops to boot, have to watch our bones so closely, I wouldn't supplement any excess A other than what's in your multivitamin either - again unless your serum levels show you need it. 

Just my 2 cents. 

Wen
susandoeshair
on 1/22/10 8:35 pm - Alexander, AR
Topic: RE: I'm eating, but apparently, alone!
Can you get some protein drinks in during this time?  Don't make me worry about you!

Love and hugs,

Susan

 

susandoeshair
on 1/22/10 8:35 pm - Alexander, AR
Topic: RE: I'm eating, but apparently, alone!
Welcome, Paula!!

I'm a patient of Gibbs, and I know you'll do very well!  Things are a little slow around here right now, but hang out with us and maybe we can get it going again!

Susan

 

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