XPost: How stupid can people get?

AmyBeth :)
on 7/29/08 8:53 am - Fort Smith, AR
I hope this link comes through from CNN ok.  I am appalled at the number of people who truly have no wits about them, and with a brand new baby in the home, at what point do you not put the pets outside and leave them and make your child a priority?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/07/29/dnt.ok.puppy. kills.baby.cnn

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wendy_fou
on 7/29/08 9:53 am - AR
I completely agree these people were dumbasses. 

I have seen people keep a dog who has bitten their small children.  I actually saw one person (a mother) say, "When you decide to have a pet, you take on a responsibility."  I was thinking to myself (and would have asked her had I been right in front of her), "And what do you do when you have a CHILD?  Is that not a GREATER responsibility?"

Every idiot knows you don't bring home a puppy or a dog (pack animal - duh!) around a new baby.  They see it as a threat to their position in the "pack" (which is what dogs view their family as).  That puppy was just doing what dogs do.  Those idiot parents and grandmother should be the ones taken away for leaving a defensive 8 week old alone in a room with ANY animal. 

This issue really hits a nerve with me for several reasons.  Pets and infants do not mix. 
lightswitch
on 7/29/08 11:36 pm
After reading the story and finding out that the dog was a puppy and a lab at that, well, and that there was a housefull of adults and that the baby was in a swing and left unattended for what seems like hours and did they not hear the poor baby cry.  The parent were distraught and only teenagers but I tell you this, in all my years as a teen baby sitter, I never left a baby or child out of my sight.  The baby was eaten because the puppy was probaby hunger, and the baby probably smelled like milk or had milk on its clothes or had burped up milk.  I'm not defending the actions of the animal but the guilty parties are the adults.  WTF.


Shawna T.
on 7/30/08 12:20 am - Elkins, AR
I heard about that. Total insanity! I guess I will stand up for generalizations about animals though. I think the adults are responsible. I couldn't imagine a puppy killing a child...I really couldn't. I think there's more to it. I have two dogs that are like my children and they think they are people. They play well with my 12 nieces and nephews(even my 95 pound dog does) and were raised around kids. My nephew that weighs about 40 pounds barks commands to my dogs and they obey. My dogs are inside dogs and I intend for it to stay that way after I have children. They know their place and are crate trained. They are very well behaved and I'll toot my own horn and say my house is emaculate. I would offer anyone to come to my house at any time and inspect. Animals do not equal filth all the time.

Story time...lol.  My sister has two dogs, an English Mastiff and a weiner dog! She brought her newborn home Monday and you'll never believe the response. I figured the mastiff would be scared. Nope! That dog is now the baby's guard dog. When the baby is sleeping, the mastiff lays in the room and if he moves or makes a noise, she checks on him. The baby doesn't like his diaper changed so at this point, it's about the only thing that makes him cry. She has to come check on him to make sure no one's hurting him. She is very protective of this baby. It reminds me a little of the dog off of peter pan minus the chores!

This is all just my 2 cents. I think some dogs would make better parents than people. If you want dogs in the house with your children, then you have to invest the time with your dogs to teach them their boundaries. I know many people with children and animals who live in harmony in the same house.

100 pounds down: 9/19/08 Onederland reached: Sometime during the week of 9/22
Weigh Date: 1/16/09 Height: 5'6" Surgery Date: 2/13/08 Current Weight: 180

lightswitch
on 7/30/08 11:43 pm

Hey girl,

YOur sister's dogs sound like my Tippy, god rest his soul.  When my baby boy who is not 30, was but an infant, our dog would stand guard and when people came to visit, he positioned himself between them and the baby and if one of them picked the baby up, he barked and got so fussy.  Later, when my son and daughter were old enough to play outside and ride bikes and such, old Tip would still guard the kids.  One day, a man drove by in a car and he pulled up to the house and Tippy started growling when my son went toward the car. He even went so far as to position himself between the car and my son.  I heard the noise and looked outside and the man so me and drove off.  I'm not sure if he was a bad man or someone looking for directions...we'll never know, but I still say Tip may have saved my son's life.  Tip died when my son turned 22 and it was the saddest day of both of my kid's life.  We all sat around his grave and talked about his rab*****asing days and his guard days and how he slept at the foot of my son's bed from the time my son moved out of the crib into the bed.  I, too, find it hard to believe that this puppy did this without something else being involved.  Like neglect for the puppy and the baby.



Shawna T.
on 7/31/08 12:23 am - Elkins, AR

Geez Jeannie! Making me cry at work!

100 pounds down: 9/19/08 Onederland reached: Sometime during the week of 9/22
Weigh Date: 1/16/09 Height: 5'6" Surgery Date: 2/13/08 Current Weight: 180

arkman54
on 7/30/08 3:19 pm - Fort Smith, AR
I just feel in my bones there is something wrong here.  I can't imagine a 6 week old puppy can maul a baby to death, and even IF it could, someone in that frickin house would have heard something.  There is something more to this story and the death of this poor child.  My wife's best friend lives in Tulsa, and she was saying that is wasn't the puppy that killed the child, but a police dog in training.  I have not heard that from any of the news reports.  Besides, did you see those teen parents, especially the father?  I don't think he has anything to do with the police dept. 
Shawna T.
on 7/30/08 10:48 pm - Elkins, AR
Oh they may have something to do with the police department, but not on the "crime fighting" side

100 pounds down: 9/19/08 Onederland reached: Sometime during the week of 9/22
Weigh Date: 1/16/09 Height: 5'6" Surgery Date: 2/13/08 Current Weight: 180

arkman54
on 7/30/08 11:40 pm - Fort Smith, AR
So true Shawna, so true.
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