Another Great Support Group Meeting

wendy_fou
on 2/17/08 2:08 pm - AR
I don't know about your insurance, but I have heard on here that most insurance will accept weigh****chers for 6 months as long as you visit your PCP one time per month and MAKE SURE HE NOTATES THAT YOU ARE DOING WEIGH****CHERS.  His notes, along with your weigh****chers meeting confirmations should be enough (again, according to people on here I have read - I did not personally have to do one - just trying to help you).   There is a guy named Paul that posts on the men's forum and the insurance help forum quit a bit that can SOOOOO help with insurance if you need it.   Since depression runs in your family (it does in mine as well), I really HIGHLY recommend that you see someone and get on meds if needed.  Depression can be treated with counseling and/or medication.  Do not wait to do this.  Do that NOW.  Thank god it was something that I grew out of since I have no problems with depression now.  But I still look back with sadness on all that time I "wasted" being unhappy when I didn't have to be.  You can get through this and you will regret every moment you waited to get help for it.  This is not something you will want to deal with WHILE you are dealing with WLS.  Focus on one thing at a time.   Since you cannot get WLS right this minute (due to the 6 month diet requirement), get help for the depression now while you start your weigh****chers & doctor visits (or whatever you chose to do or your insurance requires to meet your 6 month requirement).  That way when you have your WLS (approximately 8 months from now?) you will be settled on your depression meds (if meds are needed/wanted) prior to your WLS.  Hopefully you'll be ready to totally focus on your WLS, your recovery and your new life then.   Please PM me any time you want to.  I hate to see someone go through depression - especially someone so young with so much to be thankful and happy for.   Good luck! 
mrs.podave
on 2/17/08 2:35 pm - Little Rock, AR
I'm on Lexapro, have been since I gave birth to my son almost 6 months ago...I used to be on prozac in high school..then my junior year I had a suicide attempt, then they put me on lithium for bi-polar disorder..then got off all meds when I was 18...didn't start anything back til 5 months ago.  When I weighed 220...I started kinda liking my body..so I wasn't depressed..now that I've gained more weight..and know I'm completely unattractive...it's just hit harder.  My PCP knows my past, he did have me on 2 anti depressants, wellbutrin and lexapro..now just one..he knows I'm still depressed, and knows it's alot from my weight..plus just..life in general..my weight holds me back from alot of things.  Right now Dr. has me on adipex..but I have the generic..just kinda..helps appetite..but..still I don't have that much of an eating problem anymore..I just don't eat.  I'm not sure if I have a weigh****chers around or not..I'll definately look into it though, my husband & I are also joining a gym in Russellville..I wanna learn how to work out, and tone..since with...or without surgery...that's what I'll have to do..especially if I wanna be as tone as possible before I were to have plastic surgery..like I said..I really hope I can hack all of this without surgery...for obesity..but..this is something I've been battling for a loooong time.  It's just surgery is alot..I know blue cross blue shield of Alabama cover the surgery..but...still..it's pricey..so I've promised my husband I'm gonna try the excersise..if I loose weight..and think that I can actually do all of tha****rainer, dietician..then I won't get the surgery...so we can save all that money we'll be getting from taxes in the bank, as financials are just...a problem.  I'm crossing my fingers..none the less..I'm still gonna go to the support group meetings..I suppose the next one will be my 1st...I'm nervous.
wendy_fou
on 2/17/08 9:28 pm - AR

I am on Lexapro for GAD (generalized anxiety disorder).  That sounds really dire, but just pretty much means I stay on the verge of a nervous breakdown all the time due to severe constant anxiety.  I've been on Lexapro for probably over a year now for it and it works well.  I don't know how it does for depression because I haven't been depressed in years.  I take it for the GAD (which I know it works well for because it has helped me to NOT be so anxious).   If you are still depressed, even on meds, you should go back to your DR and demand more help - whether it be in the form of a therapy/counseling referral or more meds.  Were you better on the wellbutrin and lexapro combo?  Have you tried therapy/counseling?  Even DRs sometimes don't take depression as seriously as they should.  They also tend to either under or over treat certain conditions and depression is one of them.   To be honest, what I worry about with you is that you actually seem to have a depressive personality.  I think your weight may be partly a PRODUCT of your depression, not the CAUSE.  You were probably depressed before you were this heavy.  Being heavy just gives you another "excuse" to allow yourself to stay depressed.  Does that ring true to you?  (Or sound like total BS?)

mrs.podave
on 2/18/08 12:52 pm - Little Rock, AR
No, it doesn't sound like B.S. at all really...I was skinny...well..when I was like..7...but my parents started being abusive towards each other, drugs, drinking, cheating, and I saw it all..then started packing on the pounds..plus they gave custody to my aunt...(who lived next door) rather than take care of me..they spent all money they had on drugs...I went to school, being unfed, dirty, and clothes that I out grew and had holes..so yea..it does make sense..I have had 4 different psychologists in my past..3 were child psychologists..then another christian psychologist 14-18 I quit going to him b/c he didn't help at all...he told me all my problems could be solved by the Bible..don't get me wrong..I am a christian..but..it's just more complex than that..ya know??  I'm trying to see if I can find a good psychologist around...when I 1st had the baby Dr. referred me to one..but at the time I had medicaid (during pregnancy husband lost job..lost ins. so I had 2b on medicaid) I didn't get insured til the 1st of the year...husband doesn't like the psychologist dr. referred me to...was his mom's psychologist..she & I had alot in common.  My husband seems to have I have post traumatic stress disorder more than depression.  I get stressed really really easy..everything worries me...When I get stressed about things..I'm a huge downer..like currently....what's stressing me is the weight/financial stuff.  Honestly though..would I benefit from surgery..I'm scared of it I guess...I definately know the surgery doesn't "fix" everything & make you "hot" or whatever..you have to put work into it..which I'm willing to do..no problem..I'll give it my all..just wanna know if I'd benefit from it...it's alot of money...one of the women at the seminar said it's around 18,000 or something..but with my insurance I might only have to pay 4,000 which is a huge difference..but still..money doesn't grow on trees.  I go back to my dr. the 11th for a checkup on my weight and meds...so I'll talk to him..my husband needs counseling as well..2 years ago he lost his mom to M.S....and we have alot in common with our childhood it's scary.  Wellbutrin & lexapro combo didn't really do anything but make me more jittery.  I like the lexapro, I just seem to have alot of problems..when it comes to myself I'm very pessimesstic Around others, I'm the life of the party, I love to make people laugh..and apparently I'm funny..but when it comes to me..I'm hateful..I always make jokes about myself..I truly hate myself, my image..I love me..my personality..just..not the outside..if that makes any sense lol.
wendy_fou
on 2/19/08 2:07 am - AR

Sorry I don't have a lot of time right now - I'm just on my lunch break! I understand all about childhood tramas and them contributing to obesity and depression.  As a teenager, honestly, I had such a warped view of self that it is scary.  I also toyed with the idea of suicide.  Honestly, the only thing that kept my from it was that I was too scared to do it.  The fear of doing it outweighed the fear of living another day feeling that terrible.  So when I say I was horribly depressed as a teenager (especially around ages 13 - 16 or 17), I mean HORRIBLY DEPRESSED.   Part of the reason I was so depressed as a teenager was because of sexual abuse I suffered as a child.  I suffered sexual abuse inflicted from a family friend up until I was 14 years old.  (I don't remember when it started.  I just know it was already happening back to when my earliest memories start at 4 or 5.)  Let's just say he did everything but rape me and leave it at that.   I was referred to a child psychologist when I was 14 and he said I was fine.  (I was NOT fine.  He was an idiot.)  So I don't have a lot of faith in psychology.  I do however, have faith in counseling.  I think counselors tend to actually TALK more to their patients as opposed to psychologist who listen more.  Don't get me wrong - listening is great.  But if someone actually CONVERSES with you instead of just listening to you, you get the benefit of their ideas/perspective which may help you change your own.  (I have family members who are in this profession, so I may be a bit biased.  But I still believe counselors are better than psychologists.) I also believe in self-help.  After the child psychologist saw me and said I was fine, my parents never pursued any other help for me.  (After all, I was "fine".)   Today I am as "recovered" as anyone can be from childhood sexual abuse.  I recovered on my own.  I recovered through self-help.  I read books.  That sounds crazy.  But it worked.  I'm not talking self-help books either although it probably sounds like I have been.  I read books about sexual predators and child molestors.    When something bothers me, I research it until I understand it completely.  When I was in college, I read up on sexual predators / child molesters.  In doing that research, I realized that I was not to blame for anything that happened to me.  All I was guilty of is being a bashful, quiet, easily embarassed child who had been taught to respect her elders.  You see, child molesters LOOK for that type of child.  They aren't as likely to "tell".  I also realized that I was not to blame for not saying something sooner.  (I did "tell" when I was 14.)  I just had that sort of personality.  He was an elder to be respected and "minded".  Looking back, I remember calling him a jerk once right after he touched me - then being instantly terrifed that I had called one of my elders a jerk.  I was so worried he would tell on me.  That seems so crazy that I would worry about that.  But I was a child and children aren't able to discern the difference between big booboos and little booboos.  In my child's mind, calling him a jerk was just as bad as what he did to me.   So after reading over all that, I realized as a child I had no hopes of beating a grown man at his sick game.  I was targeted because of who I was.  I didn't "do" anything to "invite" it.  Sexual abuse/use is NOT what I was "made for" (as I had come to the conclusion, albeit subconciously, throughout my early teen years).   Part of the reason I had the personality I did is my mother.  I was taught to respect my elders.  I was also taught to be modest.  I do believe that some personality traits can be genetic too.  My mother was an extremely bashful, quiet child.  She was also a somewhat bashful, quiet adult.   I have a daughter.  I did NOT want to pass that behavior on to her.  I did NOT want her to be a target.  The same goes for my son.  So I did one of the hardest things I have EVER done.  I worked to change my personality.  Gone now is the bashful, quiet, easily embarassed child *****spects her elders.  In her place is a woman who is anything but bashful and quiet.  It is almost impossible to embarass me.  No matter how old someone is, they have to earn my respect to have it.  That is the personality I was to show my children.  That is the personality I would rather them inherit from me and I hope that they do.   So please consider self-help and counseling as much as you consider meeting with a psychologist.  If your DR is the only one prescribing you meds, you may want to ask for a referrel to a psychiatrist too.  They are DRs (whereas psychologist are not) who specialize in emotional/mental disorders.  That is who I saw who diagnosed my GAD and she is the one who got me on the Lexapro.  They just test and diagnose you (and medicate you if necessary).  You don't have to keep going to them or anything.  It is not a situation where you will talk to them for an hour every week or so about your problems like you would a psychologist.  In fact, I don't go to my psychiatrist anymore now that I have been diagnosed and that diagnosis has been confirmed (and now that I am on a medicine that works to keep me from having a nervous breakdown).  My regular DR is the one that prescribe it to me now.   So I'd recommend seeing a psychiatrist (so an MD that specializes in this form of stuff can diagnose you) and a counselor (so you can also get therapy for this stuff) and read read read on your own to help yourself.  This all combined may help you more than your regular DR and a psychologist I'm thinking.   I gotta go! 

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