need bible advice
on 11/23/08 5:18 am - Slapout, AL
since you guys are the experts, maybe if you are not hiding from me, cowarding down from the evil one, explain this
Post Date: 11/23/08 6:52 am
Many Christians do not understand why non believers find very little morality in the bible. The following is one of many examples of why we find little value in any versions of the Christian bible.
I used to have more complete list but it's on my other computer and that computer is not set up for on line access so i found this partial list. It's God'**** List. The people he killed or had killed.
I'm interested in how anyone could find this moral, ethical, or loving, please note... answers of "It's just too great for us to understand and comprehend," is a cop out. It's not too great, it's pretty easy to see. How is the following considered to be moral?
dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-many-has-god-ki lled-complete-list.html
How many has God killed? (Complete list and estimated total)
I kill ... I wound ... I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh. -- Deuteronomy 32:39-42
In a previous post, I've listed and counted God's killings in the Bible. But I only included those that said exactly how many were killed by God. I came up with 2,391,421.
But that didn't include some of God's most impressive slaughters. How many did God drown in the flood or burn to death in Sodom and Gomorrah? How many first-born Egyptians did he kill? The Bible doesn't say, so there's no way to know for sure. But it's possible to provide rough estimates in order to get a grand total, and that's what I'm attempting here. (New total: 33 million.)
SAB, Brick Testament | Number Killed | Cummulative Total | |
---|---|---|---|
God drowns everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) | Genesis 7:23, BT | 30,000,000? | 30,000,000 |
God rains fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah, killing everyone. | Gen.19:24, BT | 1000? | 30,001,000 |
Lot's wife for looking back | Gen.19:26, BT | 1 | 30,001,001 |
Er who was "wicked in the sight of the Lord" | Gen.38:7, 1 Chr.2:3, BT | 1 | 30,001,002 |
Onan for spilling his seed | Gen.38:10, BT | 1 | 30,001,003 |
7th Egyptian Plague: Hail | Exodus 9:25, BT | 30,000? | 30,031,003 |
God kills every Egyptian firstborn child. | Ex.12:29-30, BT | 500,000? | 30,531,003 |
God drowns Egyptian army | Ex.14:28, BT | 1000? | 30,532,003 |
God and Moses help Joshua kill the Amalekites | Ex.17:13, BT | 1000? | 30,533,003 |
For dancing naked around Aaron's golden calf | Ex.32:27-28, 35, BT | 3000 | 30,536,003 |
Aaron's sons for offering strange fire before the Lord | Lev.10:1-3, Num.3:4, 26:61, BT | 2 | 30,536,005 |
A blasphemer | Lev.24:10-23, BT | 1 | 30,536,006 |
God burned to death an unknown number for complaining | Numbers 11:1, BT | 100? | 30,536,106 |
God sent "a very great plague" for complaining about the food. | Num.11:33, BT | 10,000? | 30,546,106 |
God killed those who murmured with a plague. | Num.14:35-36, BT | 100? | 30,546,206 |
A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath | Num.15:32-36, BT | 1 | 30,546,207 |
Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) | Num.16:27, BT | 12+ | 30,546,219 |
Burned to death for offering incense | Num.16:35, 26:10, BT | 250 | 30,546,469 |
For complaining | Num.16:49, BT | 14,700 | 30,561,169 |
Massacre of the Aradites | Num.21:1-3, BT | 3000? | 30,564,169 |
For complaining about the lack of food and water, God sent fiery serpents to bite the people, and many of them died. | Num.21:6, BT | 100? | 30,564,269 |
God delivers the Bashanites into Moses' hands and Moses kills everyone "until there was none left alive." | Num.21:34-35, BT | 1000? | 30,565,269 |
For "committing *****dom with the daughters of Moab" | Num.25:9, BT | 24,000 | 30,589,269 |
Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive) | Num.31:1-35, BT | 90,000+ | 30,679,269 |
The slaughter of the Anakim, the childen of Esau, and the Horim | Deuteronomy 2:21-22 | 5000? | 30,684,269 |
God hardened the king of Heshbon's heart so that the Israelites could massacre his people. (included several cities) | Dt.2:33-34, BT | 3000? | 30,687,269 |
God delievered the king of Bashan so that the Israelites could massacre his people. | Dt.3:3-6 | 60,000? | 30,747,269 |
Massacre of Jericho | Joshua 6:21, BT | 1000? | 30,748,269 |
God tells Joshua to stone to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing. | Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26, BT | 5+ | 30,748,274 |
God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone). | Joshua 8:1-25, BT | 12,000 | 30,760,274 |
God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way" as they try to escape. | Joshua 10:10-11, BT | 1000? | 30,761,274 |
Joshua kills 5 kings and hangs their dead bodies on trees | Joshua 10:24-26, BT | 5 | 30,761,279 |
Massacre of 7 cities | Joshua 10:28-42, BT | 7000? | 30,768,279 |
God delivers the Hazorites. | Joshua 11:8-12, BT | 1000? | 30,769,279 |
Massacre of the Anakim | Joshua 11:20-21, BT | 1000? | 30,770,279 |
God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites | Judges 1:4, BT | 10,000 | 30,780,279 |
Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king's belly | Jg.3:15-22, BT | 1 | 30,780,280 |
God delivered Moabites | Jg.3:28-29, BT | 10,000 | 30,790,280 |
Massacre of the Canaanites | Jg.4:15, BT | 1000? | 30,791,280 |
God forces Midianite soldiers to kill each other. | Jg.7:2-22, 8:10, BT | 120,000 | 30,911,280 |
God delivered the Ammonites to Jephthah to slaughter. | Jg.11:32-33, BT | 1000? | 30,912,280 |
The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson | Jg.14:19, BT | 30 | 30,912,310 |
The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson | Jg.15:14-15, BT | 1000 | 30,913,310 |
Samson's God-assisted act of terrorism | Jg.16:27-30, BT | 3000 | 30,916,310 |
"The Lord smote Benjamin" | Jg.20:35-37, BT | 25,100 | 30,941,410 |
More Benjamites | Jg.20:44-46 | 25,000 | 30,966,410 |
For looking into the ark of the Lord | 1 Sam.6:19, BT | 50,070 | 31,016,480 |
God delivered Philistines | 1 Sam.14:12, BT | 20 | 31,016,500 |
God forces the Philistine soldiers to kill each other. | 1 Sam.14:20, BT | 1000? | 31,017,500 |
God orders Saul to kill every Amalekite man, women, and child. | 1 Sam.15:2-3, BT | 1000? | 31,018,500 |
Samuel (at God's command) hacks Agag to death | 1 Sam.15:32-33, BT | 1 | 31,018,501 |
God delivers the Philistines. | 1 Sam.23:2-5 | 1000? | 31,019,501 |
"The Lord smote Nabal." | 1 Sam.25:38 | 1 | 31,019,502 |
God delivers the Philistines to David (again). | 2 Sam.5:19, 25 | 1000? | 31,020,502 |
Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling | 2 Sam.6:6-7, 1 Chr.13:9-10 | 1 | 31,020,503 |
David and Bathsheba's baby boy | 2 Samuel 12:14-18 | 1 | 31,020,504 |
God sent a three-year famine because of something Saul did. | 2 Sam.21:1 | 5000? | 31,025,504 |
Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord | 2 Sam.21:6-9 | 7 | 31,025,511 |
From plague as punishment for David's census (men only; probably 200,000 if including women and children) | 2 Sam.24:13, 1 Chr.21:7 | 70,000+ | 31,095,511 |
A prophet for believing another prophet's lie | 1 Kg.13:1-24 | 1 | 31,095,512 |
Baasha killed everyone in the house of Jeroboam "according to the saying of the Lord." | 1 Kings 15:29 | 1000? | 31,096,512 |
Zimri killed everyone in the house of Baasha "according to the word of the Lord." | 1 Kg.16:11-12 | 1000? | 31,097,512 |
Religious leaders killed in a prayer contest | 1 Kg.18:22-40 | 450 | 31,097,962 |
God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites' hands | 1 Kg.20:28-29 | 100,000 | 31,197,962 |
God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers | 1 Kg.20:30 | 27,000 | 31,224,962 |
God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet | 1 Kg.20:35-36 | 1 | 31,224,963 |
Ahaziah is killed for talking to the wrong god. | 2 Kings 1:2-4, 17, 2 Chr.22:7-9 | 1 | 31,224,964 |
Burned to death by God | 2 Kg.1:9-12 | 102 | 31,225,066 |
God sends two bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha's bald head | 2 Kg.2:23-24 | 42 | 31,225,108 |
Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah | 2 Kg.7:17-20 | 1 | 31,225,109 |
God calls for a seven year famine. | 2 Kg.8:1 | 10,000? | 31,235,109 |
Jezebel | 2 Kg.9:33-37 | 1 | 31,235,110 |
Jehu killed "all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria ... according to the saying of the Lord" | 2 Kg.10:16-17 | 100? | 31,235,210 |
God sent lions to kill "some" foreigners | 2 Kg.17:25-26 | 3+ | 31,235,213 |
Sleeping Assyrian soldiers | 2 Kg.19:35, 2 Chr.32:21, Is.37:36 | 185,000 | 31,420,213 |
Saul | 1 Chronicles 10:14 | 1 | 31,420,214 |
God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah | 2 Chronicles 13:15-17 | 500,000 | 31,920,214 |
Jeroboam | 2 Chr.13:20 | 1 | 31,920,215 |
"The Lord smote the Ethiopians." | 2 Chr.14:9-14 | 1,000,000 | 32,920,215 |
God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out | 2 Chr.21:14-19 | 1 | 32,920,216 |
Judean soldiers because they had forsaken the Lord | 2 Chr.28:6 | 120,000 | 33,040,216 |
God delivered the Israelites into the hand of the Chaldeans. | 2 Chr.36:16-17 | 1000? | 33,041,216 |
Ezekiel's wife | Ezekiel 24:15-18 | 1 | 33,041,217 |
Ananias and Sapphira | Acts 5:1-10 | 2 | 33,041,219 |
Herod | Acts 12:23, BT | 1 | 33,041,220 |
Thoughts? Anyone?
Leann...
Welcome AGAIN Darlin'!
Just wanted you to know that we wouldn't dare leave you out of being properly welcomed.
Please know, I STILL FIRMLY believe you are DEEPLY searching for something in your life or you wouldn't be here with us!!!
GOD BLESS YOU SWEETIE!!!!
By the way, CHRISTIANITY isn't full of guilt, fear and insanity...it is actually FULL of FORGIVENESS!!!!
on 11/23/08 8:41 am - Slapout, AL
gawd is great
gawd is good
let us thank him
for da hood