alcohol

With regards to carbonated beverages I was told NO NO NO by both Dr. Birch, my nurse & my Dietitian but reading some other posts on other forms, it looks like with everything else, there is no consensus (I find that annoying).

I personally am not taking a chance that I will stretch my pouch just to have a carbonated beverage. I use to drink 1-2 liters of Coke zero a day but I have not drank any in almost 8 months & I don't miss it. Also I have such a hard time drinking all the water I am suppose to since surgery. If I drink more than two mouthfuls at one time I will puke. It is recommended not to drink within 1/2 hour of eating & it usually takes me 20-30 mins to eat now cus if I eat to fast...yup I puke. I have to get in lots of protein which is sooo hard at times, then if you want to have any type of normal BM you gotta get in some fiber. Everything for me now is about..am I getting enough nutrition?..there is nooooo way I am going to give up potential nutritional food consumption for junk.

In 6 months I have only had the dumping syndrome once. It sucked & I am glad I don't really experience it. I really worry that if I eat something that is considered "junk" that I will regress to my old ways. I have all the processed food craving out of my system...no more headaches, sluggy feelings. No more acne. I can honestly sit in a room with people eating my old favorite foods & it does not bother me because there is noooo food in the world that could ever make me feel as good as having my life back does.

I looked up some info and the consensus is NO carbonated beverages but the reason in the studies suggest it interferes with the bodies ability to absorb the calcium in the bones..
 
But since we are talking about once in a blue moon not a regular basis i think it falls to what you can tolerate.

I too will be looking to only choose healthy nutritional options on a regular basis. My questions were only for the occasions where you want to indulge in a drink or two. The other thing I read about alcohol was (as said here) you get drunk very fast and it take you much longer to get back to a 0 blood alcohol level than a "normal" person... yes that is what it said "normal" lol. DAMN still not normal!

Actually your pouch does not stretch from carb. beverages....it is just not good to consume them.  I had a vodka/orange juice loaded with ice at my Christmas party and was fine..sipping really slow...be careful it will hit you fast.

Good Luck and Happy Holidays.

Rhonda

Carbonation will NOT stretch your pouch!!!!! UGH!!!!!!!! Something with TWO openings CANNOT stretch!!!!!! (Sorry... had to get that off my chest!!!!)

Yes Dori.... 2 months wait.... 8 weeks! lol I had my first alcoholic beverage while on a Canada Day camping trip hubby and I were on. It was awesome!!!!! I don't drink nearly as much as I used to though. Last time I had alkyhall was at hubby's Christmas party the last Sunday of November. I was totally GONE by the time I had drank my first cooler. hehehe It takes me a while to sober up though. I think it took me about an hour. 

Everyone's surgeon has different takes on carbonation, so go with their recommendation. Our surgeon says carbonation and caffenated drinks are OK after 8 weeks ----- sooooooooo with that being said ---- GO FOR IT!!!!!!

*hugs*

Um...of course something with two opening can stretch. My stomach pre op is example number one. The whole purpose of me having RNY surgery is because my stomach had stretched so large that I needed mass amounts of food to fill it. People often stretch there pouches out many years after RNY surgery from over filling & regain there weight back.

This is how my dietitian explained the carbonation to me...the air bubbles can wedge themselves against the walls of the pouch, neither rising up nor descending,,eventually they will pop or become smaller bubbles and pass out of the pouch ie GAS.  Repeated filling of pouch with air bubbles may eventually stretch it.

Like with everything else in this process everyone has a different approach &/or experience.  For ME nothing about the taste of pop or other carbonated beverages is worth the risk.

I saw my nut yesterday and asked about pop as I was having a craving.  The advise was a big NO.  According to the studies Weight Wise goes by it can stretch the pouch over time because of the gas in it.  Also it can react weirdly depending on the person.  Also was mentioned was the interference with the absorbation of calcuim and since we are already compremised why go there.
Each Dr and clinic is different and I guess we have to decide if it is at all worth it.  I have also been told by the surgeon and Nut that the pouch will stretch a bit with time as mine is restrictive right now but will improve as it will stretch a bit with time.
Hope this helps,  I can't explain it as well as they did yesterday at the clinic.

This is why I LOVE the clinic. They are the greatest group to have on your side and the information they give to us is wonderful. They make sure you are prepared not only physically but mentally and emotionaly. They educate you and help you make the life changes neceassary to be a success. I would have never been able to do it without them and of course all of you.

Kee.

 According to Weight Loss Surgery for Dummies (book sold in Dr Nohr's office).....

"Carbonation will give you more gas. Even if you let a carbonated beverage sit until it's flat, when you drink it, the heat of your body will release more carbonation, and the gas will come out one way or another. (Your pouch does not expand because ofcarbonation, this was a theory, but it's never been proven.)"

"Some studies from the 1990's have suggested that the phosphoric acid found in sodas reduces the calcium in bones."

"Some studies indicate that NutraSweet can make you hungrier."

*hugs*

There is absolutely no point in playing this he said/she said bs.
Weight Wise say NO to carbonation.Period. After all the weigh gain over the years- do you really want to risk screwing up your success.
We all have different surgeons and dietitians and this is why I hate coming on this forum for 'advice'. People forget the rules along the way and make up their own tricks that work. We need proper nutrition, exercise, vitamins and water to be successful. Please use your common sense! Pop is not in the food guide!!!
Just my opinion!!!

In addition to the different surgeons and dietians we also have different surgeries.  There is no studies on the effects of carbonated beverages on the sleeve as it is to new.  There probably is different reactions for those who have had  RNY to the sleeve.  I have been told no to carbonation and will go with that as why mess around with what is working for now.