Protein Question
(deactivated member)
on 5/9/08 10:25 am
on 5/9/08 10:25 am
Hi... Need some help here about protein!
My Nutritionist increased my protein intake to 75-80g/day, based on a pre-albumin result. Most books and charts list proteins as meats, dairy, nut, and legumes. The book "Eating Well after WLS" notes that RnY patients eat about a 2 - 3 oz serving of the entree, which seems to me to be meats, etc again.
My eating varies a lot and includes many vegetables that are higher in protein. SparkPeople totals all of the food values. If I use the SP #, I'm already at 85g today. If I used the basic meat, dairy, nut, and legumes amount, I'm at about 59g today. There is a big difference. Don't you think?
I am leaning towards usiing with the SparkPeople #.
I'd like to know if you think that I am counting my proteins correctly or not.
Thanx!
Ro
In fitday, I have created my own custom foods and took the protein amounts right off the labels of my foods and use that. This way I know they are accurate and I am not just trusting fitday totally.
If you are measuring and eating the amount u measured then go off the label vs. your measurement would be my suggestion and not what sparkpeople says. Fitday has a million different chicken protein amounts.. I use my chicken i get frozen in a bag for 4 oz from walmart.. this way I know its accurate. I put it in my custom list, I think you can do that in spark people too right?
Anyways.. you are doing great.. no fretting
Have a wonderful weekend!!!
(deactivated member)
on 5/10/08 9:11 am
on 5/10/08 9:11 am
All of the foods are weighed and values are either double checked or custom entered.
85g represents the grand total of proteins from all sources of foods eaten... most things seem to have some protein, basically.
59g represents proteins ONLY from meats, cheeses, nuts, and legumes... main protein sources. This number excludes the 3g from artichokes and 4g from granola bars, etc.
There is a big difference in the number.
If you do a rough "breakdown" of your fitday total, which number would you consider the real protein value.... "grand total" or "meat/cheese food group" value?
(deactivated member)
on 5/10/08 2:43 pm
on 5/10/08 2:43 pm
So Mel... This was my "thinking" about carbs / carb that have higher protein values... Since I continue to lose weight and have added night eating, I am scheduled for a CAT scan of my stomach and a hormone test (24 hour urine collection) for next week. Both tests are to "rule-out" problems, as I have no pain and feel fine. My Eats have increased, but the weight is not stablizing... I weighed the following:
Oct: 163.5
Nov: 157
Dec: 150.5
Jan: 145
Feb: 136.5
March: 135
April 8th: 135
April 12: 130
May 8: 128.5
As I neared goal, I expected to start maintaining and planning for PS. My goal was re-estimated in Oct. for the 150 +/- a few LB range. At that weight, the skin removal from PS would have given me a nicely curved body.
Recently, I have tried a variety of food combinations, but was reluctant to try mostly carbs to meet my protein level of 75-80g/day. Since the carb-protein foods are lower in proteins, the calories go way up to meet the day's protein range. Today was the day... and I'm glad that it is over. I usually try the combinations for a few days to see if I am gaining any weight. Possibly by having to convert the carb-protein a bit more than "straight-up meat", my metabolism would have to slow down a bit. I just don't know yet. Anyway, here are my Eats:
B: 1/4 bagel, LS oatmeal, 3 pancakes, 1/2 SF syrup, 1 bowl egg drop soup
L: 1 slice wheat bread, 2 oz chicken salad, 2 oz potato salad
2nd L: 40g Skippy, 2 Oats 'N Honey granola bars
D: 1 c macaroni & cheese, 3 oz spinach, 4 oz cantaloupe
S: 6 oz watermelon, 5 oz strawberries, 1 oz pumperknickle pretzels, SF Fudgsicle, SF dark choc pudding, 1 oz pumpkin seeds, 1 banana
calories: 2048
fats: 63
carbs: 329
protein: 80
sat. fat: 13
Well your weight loss did significanlty slow down some after february.. I know what you are going through.. when I was diligent with my calories and eating at a top of 1000 or 1200 or would continue to lose and lose and lose.. just be careful about how much you do add in.. I started adding too much and now i am dealing with some binging and regain. I know you won't do this but just if you were anything like me preop it can be bad if you have problems with emotional eating. Again, I am probably dealing with my own demons here. Your carbs would have me gain 5 lbs in a day! Amazing how different we all are. 329, holy cow! Lol.. I honestly would say the best thing for you to do is to go and have your metabolism tested at this point. See where your resting metabolism is and see if you can add your lifestyle and exercise calories you expend into the mix to find out what your maintenance zone is.. google search new leaf technology for a center closest to you, there is a way to put a zip code in there. I would say mine is pretty accurate if i was to guess. Im 1861 and my maintenance is 2300 or less or there abouts.. with my activity its prolli really close.
I hope this helps, I am no expert (obviously as I have my issues and cannot get a maintenance plan down to save my life!) but I would start there and continue to seek the advice of professionals, continue eating "clean" and eating good sources of carbs. Does 300 something in carbs make you crave? I gotta know! Today my carbs will be under 20 if you figure net carbs.. wow what a difference.
I know we need carbs for brain function but I crave something wicked when i eat them in excess and for me thats anything above 60-80 and even if its not the right sources.. forget it! I'm done for. I hate that.
Hang in there! Keep me posted, fingers crossed your tests all turn out ok! *Hugs*
(deactivated member)
on 5/11/08 2:57 pm
on 5/11/08 2:57 pm
Hi... I decided to continue the high-carb protein eating for a few days to see if there is a large gain. Changing "away from" better eating habits is similar to pre-op eating... night eating... snacking... and it does concern me. Stabilizing is the main purpose, but not following the basics that RNY patients should use does present mixed feelings.
EATS:
B: 2 1/2 oz bagel, 1 Light Laughing Cow cheese, 1 oz pistachios, 5 3/4 oz strawberries
2nd B: 3 buttermilk pancakes, 1/4 oz SF syrup
L: 2 3/4 oz steak, 2 oz green beans, 2 oz spinach, 2 oz artichokes, 1 oz mushrooms (some extra virgin oil/light margarine), 1 oz mashed potatoes, 1 slice wheat bread, 1/2 oz salad, 2 oz tomatoes, W-B spray (20 cals)
D: Bird's Eye Garlic Chicken (1 cup = 300 cals)
S: 1 oz pumperknickle pretzels, 2 (100 cal) Smart Popcorn, 4 3/4 oz cantaloupe, banana, SF pudding
calories: 1744
fats: 48
carbs: 283
protein: 79
sat. fat: 11