I'm confused!!!!!!!!!

kwillson
on 3/17/05 4:52 am - Spring Hill, KS
Ok everyone, how much protein,carbs, and fats should i have a day? Also how many calories? I'm hearing different things from different people. At this point and time I usually get approx. 40 grms protein,carbs?,fats 30grms, and 500-700 calories. I know i need more protein. It's just so hard to do, I have a weak stomach and hate the protein drinks. The protein bars are good but alot have too many calories than i would like to consume. please help with any info. thanks Kelly 415/328/185 -87
Nurse_gracie
on 3/17/05 6:42 am - Chicago, IL
Kelly, Ask your surgeon. Every surgeon has their own protocol. I know we all hate hearing that, but it really is true. That being said I spoke to my surgeon on Tuesday and this is what he told me. He doesn't care about calories...Yea, I know! He wants me to just becareful with how much protein, carbs and sugar I eat. No snacking. Protein-60-100 grams a day Carbs-No more than 60carbs a day Sugar-Less than 5grams PER SERVING I like protein drinks. Matrix Vanilla and Proplete Gold-Bananna Creme I also do Protein Blondies/Brownies when I'm out the door without breakfast. You can check out bariatriceating.com Their is some good stuff on there. My surgeon's protocol for patients over 300lbs he makes their pouches around 2-2.5oz. Mine is about 3.5oz. So My pouch is already big. I hope this answers some, but Please speak to your nutritionist/surgeon. Take Care, Gracie 270/207 57# to goal!!
Sue O.
on 3/17/05 6:54 am - Brookfield, WI
You should follow the advice of a dietitian or nutritionist working with your surgeon. There is a huge variety of varying information if you look at the messages on the main message board. Every program is different. You should follow the one that you are associated with. I usually consume minimum 80 grams protein per day, try to keep the carbs under 40 grams per day (much lower than some consume), and I don't track how much fat I am taking in. I've not reviewed the documentation from my dietitian for awhile for recommendations. You didn't list exactly what proteins you are eating. I don't have trouble with most meats. I have the most problems with chicken and turkey, which I found weird. For me, beef goes down very well. I started with chuck steak cooked in a crockpot for 10 hrs using a low carb BBQ sauce. Then I tried ground beef and buffalo. All go down really well. I had my first steak last Friday night at a restaurant, a marvelous beef tenderloin that was so tender I almost didn't need a knife. Fish, shrimp are good, too. Eggs, too. I was eating Egg Beaters for breakfast every day as soon as I was home from the hospital. I made chili with the ground beef and buffalo using the Chili Magic mix in a can. It was really simple, just brown the ground beef, add a can of diced tomatoes and the can of Chili Magic, and cook for 10 minutes. The beans are another good source of protein. Each 1/2 up of the Chili made according to the Chili Magic directions is 10 g of protein. You could add some shredded cheese to the top of your serving of chili to get a bit more flavor and protein. Are you a milk drinker? The Hood Carb Countdown milk products have 50% more protein per cup than regular milk, and only 3 grams of carb. I drink 2 cups of this each day, so that is 12 g protein per cup, 24 total for the day. They also make a low carb yogurt smoothie that is 4 grams carb, 13 grams protein. I have one of these at least 3 days per week. They aren't lactose free, but with most of the milk sugar taken out I can use both products without problems (I've been lactose intolerant for 25 yrs). The milk comes in whole, 2%, skim and chocolate. Since I'm lactose intolerant, I don't eat cottage cheese. If you don't have trouble with the lactose, this can be another source of protein for you. Peanut butter contains protein. 2 T peanut butter contain 7 grams protein and 8 grams of carbs. I stuff mine in celery, but sometimes just lick it from a spoon. Yes, it contains fat, but most of it is the monounsaturated variety. It can be hard to find protein supplements that taste good. I had one that I used here and there for years before I had surgery. Before surgery, I could chug the whole thing at once, practically without tasting. Immediately after surgery, when I couldn't chug, it tasted not so good, even with some sugar-free Nestle's Quick added to the chocolate flavor. So I started looking around for others that tasted good. One problem when you buy many of them is that you can't try them first, and if you hate it, then you're stuck with a tub of the stuff sitting there. I went to the bariatriceating.com website and purchased the sampler package. There were quite a few different manufacturers in there and I found that I was very impressed with how they tasted. I liked most of them (without doctoring them up) and they mixed easily, aren't thick (I usually use water to mix with). I've reordered many of them. That might be an option for you to try to find a protein supplement that you like. My favorite is the Fuzzy Navel nectar, which I mix with Hood Low Carb orange juice. Hope this helps you a bit. I wasn't intending to write a book, sorry. If you post this question on the main message board during daytime hours, you might get a ton more suggestions since there is more traffic there. Good luck-- Sue O.
Debbie R.
on 3/17/05 7:12 am - Chandler, AZ
Everyone's pouch size and gastric bypass is different. I know my surgeon made the length of my bypass and pouch especially sized for my needs. You really need to follow your surgeon's advice (or dietician if he directs you to one). My surgeon has me taking in at least 70 grms of protein a day, and 800-1200 calories. I can't remember the grams of fat or carbohydrates, but I kind of watch those as well so I don't dump. My dietician said not to eat anything that contains over 13 grms of carbohydrate at a time because I might dump.
Monica B.
on 3/17/05 10:35 am - Emery, SD
Kelly when I went for my 2 month check up I reviewed my daily intake with the nurse practitioner and the nutritionist. I found out that I was not taking in enough of everything excep****er and protein. My weight managment group say you need 900-1000 calories per day. 70-90 grms of protein, at LEAST 100 grms of carbs, and 64-100 oz of water. I was blown away with their expectations and what I was actually eating. So I turned to FitDay.com to track my intake and make sure I get what I need for a balanced weight loss that will not rob me of good muscles and take the fat out of me. I make protein the most important product to get in everyday. I stay away from simple carbs, white carbs and go for complex carbs. Every time I go pee I know that I am flushing pounds away for good. I am down 56 lbs and loving my loss. I take my Optisource vitamins everyday (4/day) and I am doing great. I had my 3 month check up on Wednesday and the group is very happy with my progress. I should have the results of all the blood tests next week. You should call your surgeon or weight management group and ask again what their recommendations are for you at this stage. Taking in too little can cause long term problems and you do not want that, this journey is to make you healthier all around. Monica
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