Im back with more depressing......

Hi guys Yes Im back to complain some more. Still cant figure out what to do about my weightloss cant get it right. I actually rode the PROTEIN train and gained 4 pounds!!!! I can eat and eat and eat, and when I dont I feel like im starving. I have been limiting my self to 1200 cals and feel like im starving to death. Has anyone heard of anyone having to have the pouch made smaller again? Im pretty sure thats my problem. I asked my dr about it 5 months ago and all he said was stop eating. But really if it was that easy for me before I never would have been fat right? I dont know. I read the posts on diet pills and too have purchased some Propolene but it swells in your belly and im scared of it. ANYONE HELP? Jamie 334/215 now and disgusted

Hugs In all honesty Jamie I think they need to give more counseling to EVERYONE that has WLS before and after. I'm NOT eating and that's not good. I want to sleep ALL the time, I have the shakes ALL the time. I'm getting to the point that my pouch just throws everything up and who's fault is it? MINE!! What helped me when I got hungery at the beginning is get active. Go to the mall and walk. Get out of the house is what saved my butt. Hugs Donna

Hi Jamie, We are in the same boat. I agree with Donna we should have gotten therapy before and after surgery. As it is I started light weight I was 233 lbs the day of my surgery and I'm 5' 10". My doctor didn't want me to get "too skinny" so he made my pouch bigger. Why did he do that? I dunno. Now I can eat normal and sometimes I think I even eat too much. Stress and bad habits are not helping me right now. My lowest weight was 177 lbs and right now I'm 200 lbs. I never got to my goal and for the past year I have been gradually gaining. I know is my fault because I don't work out. I try not to drink with my meals but sometimes is so hard not to. The only thing I do religiously is take my multi vitamins twice a day. I forget the calcium sometimes. But I'm getting better. I have tried to do the low carb slim-fast for breakfast but I can't I'm so hungry and I want food in the morning. Just like you I have thought about a revision maybe go to a different doctor and have them check my pouch size. I don't think we are big enough for insurance to cover a revision plus maybe that is only for people with complications. I have inquired about diet pills and someone here mention appettite suppresants but I can't seem to find a place online to buy them. I should be getting insurance again next month and maybe i can convience my PCP to give me a prescription for diet pills. I guess all we can do now is keep trying. Good Luck to you and let me know if you find something that works for you. Hugs, Norma Cantu 242/233/200/170

Hi Jamie, I haven't had a chance to read your profile yet, but I will now. I have a diet that has helped me get beyond this plateau that I've been on for the last couple of months. I absolutely lost weight (5#s in 3 days). You diet for 3 days only, then go back to your regular diet for 4 days. The 3 days were easy and I felt full and satisfied at every meal no matter how big or small. Some meals (like dinner) took me a long time to eat but I did it. I worried about what and how much to eat on the 4 days off, fearing I would overeat and sabotage the entire diet. But, I didn't. It actually felt like my stomach got a little smaller like right after my surgery because I could not go back to eating alot. It also sounds like you have yet to deal with the obese mind or mentality of weight loss. Do you still associate food and comfort; food and feelings? Try this diet: It ABSOLUTELY broke my plateau and my PA said it was ok to try for the 3 days. Cardiac Diet: Day #1 Breakfast 1/2 grapefruit (or grapefruit juice) 1 slice of toast 1 tbsp peanut butter Lunch 1/2 c. tuna 1 slice of toast Coffee or tea Dinner 3 oz of any type meat 1 cup of green beans 1 cup of beets or carrots 1 small apple 1 cup of Vanilla ice cream (yum!) Water Day #2 Breakfast 1 egg 1 Slice Toast 1/2 banana Black coffee or tea Lunch 1 cup cottage cheese or tuna 5 saltine crackers Water Dinner 2 weiners 1 cup broccoli or cabbage 1/2 cup carrots 1/2 cup bananas 1/2 c vanilla ice cream Water Day #3 Breakfast 5 Saltine Crackers 1 Slice of Cheddar Cheese 1 Small apple Coffee or tea Lunch 1 hard boiled egg 1 slice of toast Coffee or tea Dinner 1 cup of tuna 1 cup of green beans or cauliflower 1 cup of cantaloupe Water This diet works on a chemical breakdown and is proven to work. DO NOT VARY or SUBSTITUTE any of the foods. SALT & PEPPER may be used, but NO other seasoning. This diet is to be used (3) three days at a time. In (3) three days, you will lose 10 pounds! After (3) three days of dieting, you can eat your usual foods, but DO NOT OVER EAT!!!! You can have all the water, tea and coffee you want (avoid creamers and sugars in the coffee or only add a little) After 4 days of eating normal, start back on your 3 day diet. This diet is used by the Birmingham Alabama Hospital Cardiac Unit for patients who need to lose lots of weight in a hurry before having heart surgery. You can lose up to 40 pounds in a month. Or so the diet claims. Again, I only noticed 5# immediately after 3 days. My Grandmother tried it and noticed a 16# loss in 10 to 12 days. Maybe after trying this and losing a few pounds, it will build up your will power and self esteem to get on track and keep losing weight. The surgery was only a physical tool to help you lose the weight. It also takes a lot of mental energy for you to sustain and maintain the weight loss. Stop focusing on your problems and focus on the positive things you have accomplished. Sometimes your mind can be your own worse enemy. Good Luck! God Bless!!!

hi thanks for the diet but it says dont substitue any food what if I cant eat tuna? any suggestions? Jamie thanks

maybe try the canned chicken or some type of ground white meat or other white fish. Can you eat salmon?

I can certainly sympathize with you. I know I can eat a lot at one sitting and I did not expect to EVER be able to do that again. Some people who have had this surgery talk about not being able to tolerate bread and pasta because it clumps in the stomach. I have no problem eating bread or pasta. I think there has to be some explanation for why some people can eat more 'quantity wise' at one sitting as opposed to others who have had this surgery. I'm beginning to wonder if it has to do with the size of the stoma. You read about people who have strictures after surgery because of the scar tissue growth that makes the stoma opening too small for food to pass through. It makes me wonder about people who may not scar badly. Could this allow their stoma to be too large and let food pass through too easily? And then their is the problem of 'dumping'. Some people dump and I think they are fortunate. I've found that I can tolerate sugar better than I would like too. I know that I am eating way too much right now and it has nothing to do with hunger, but I do still feel that for some people the surgery does work better than for others. We have come a long way to have lost the amount of weight we have lost and we should feel good about that. Have you ever heard of the 'pouch rules'? I heard someone make reference to following the pouch rules, but I don't have a list of the rules. Maybe it would be a good thing to look at. I know I am frustrated that I have gained weight and afraid that I may gain more.

A few months ago I felt the same way. I had not lost weight in almost 1 year, then I started gaining. I felt I could eat a lot. I went back to weigh****chers and it helped I lost 12 lbs in 2 months. I'm going to stay on it till I lose 6 more pounds to be at my goal. Then I'll get plastic Surgery!!!. The key was to train myself to eat food that filled me up. Fruit seemed to slide right down and I could eat almost a whole baby seedless watermelon or cantalope. I also ate to much pasta with no protean. Now I'm sticking to the Frozen dinners (which I love)for lunch and sliced turkey and cheese for snack.. I also have to learn not to eat when I'm not hungry. I still find myself forcing the last two bites of food in, because I can't throw it away. It's a journey and I'm going to try to stay aware of what's happening to me.

Hi Jamie, The RNY changes your stomach, but not your head. Don't starve yourself with the stupid diets you've experienced before the operation and that have lead you nowhere, except made you fatter. Stop thinking of operations or revisions. Stop thinking of diet pills, if there was one that made you lose weight nobody will have to lay on the operating table, risking one's life to lose weight. Eat like a normal person,the amount of calories you need and try to exercise a little more, what about dancing? And above all, STOP feeling disgusted with yourself. If you don't like yourself, who will? Love, Solveig (Belgium)