Hibernation Syndrome

I just thought this information might be helpful to others. I got this from the California Board. I know I have been there.... "Hibernation syndrome" Two or three weeks after Gastric Bypass, the patient's body "figures out" that it is not going to be receiving its accustomed calories for a long time. In about half of our patients this results in what we call the hibernation syndrome, where one's body falls back on its built-in evolutionary response to a low food supply - the person just wants to rest and be as still as possible until the food returns. Energy level drops through the floor, and the individual can become emotionally labile (tearful or irritable). There can also be a component of depression caused by the loss of the previous relationship with food. This syndrome can be unnerving for patients because it comes at a time when they are just beginning to get over the pain and other effects of surgery - they believe they should be feeling better but they just want to curl up and go to sleep. The good news is that this is not a dangerous or unusual thing, and will resolve in about 2 weeks when the body figures out how to use fat as its main energy source. Hope this brings some hope! Waiting for the scale to move again B

WOW!!! I sure can relate to the part that says about the body wanting to rest....I haven't had any problems with depression, but my energy level is awful!! I am hoping since increasing my protein and water more, that will help!! Thanks for passing this on!!

My doctor did tell me that there would be periods during the first 6 weeks that I would feel really sleepy at around two in the afternoon and he was right. My energy level still is working out the kinks. Thanks for the post it helps explain a lot of my first weeks postop.

B the California girl, Did you see my layman's post on the CA board LOL !!!! That's great you shared the info here!!! I was waiting for the scale to move for 2 weeks and walaa it did last night. I always lose the night B4 my period but the 2 weeks of waiting before are depressing. It happens to many post ops. Hang in there! California girl Summer

Another example of the same thing from the CA board again. Hibernation Syndrome FIRST STAGE OF POST-OP INFORMATION After WLS, you may be feeling tired and become depressed. When you are several weeks post op, and are either on a liquid diet or you are eating many fewer calories than you were pre op, this depression and inactivity can become more pronounced. All you want to do is sleep, you may have crying spells, you may begin to believe that the surgery was a mistake, or you may think 'what in the world have I done to myself? All these feelings are completely normal and, to a certain extent, are to be expected. The low number of calories you are eating produces what many of us call the 'hibernation syndrome' and your depression and feelings of despair,are a direct result. During the weeks immediately following surgery, our body starts to notice that we are not taking in enough calories. It doesn't know we've had WLS, or that it's the year 2000. Our body is missing food, thinks this is a famine, and struggles to conserve our energy. The human body reacts like it always has in a famine; it makes us depressed--so we don't have the motivation to do anything, and it makes us tired--so we don't have the energy to do anything. In this way, we will conserve as many calories as possible and remain alive. You can see the practical value of this as our bodies have been living through famines, snowstorms, and other periods of unstable food supply for centuries. This stage can last several weeks. Our discomfort is compounded as we are, at this same time, trying to recover from major surgery, adopt new eating habits, and deal with a liquid or soft diet. To get out of this stage, our body has to say to itself 'gee, this famine is lasting a bit too long. If I keep conserving my energy with inactivity, I will starve to death. I'd better use my last store of energy (the remaining fat and muscles in our body) to hunt up some food'. At this point, our body will switch from getting energy from food, to getting energy from our fat (and muscle too if we don't eat enough protein) and that is what we want. In order to deal with this difficult transition period, tell yourself that you're right on track; this is exactly what is normal and to be expected. Tell yourself that, in a few weeks, this will pass, and you will feel like a completely new person. We all seem to turn the corner about 4-6 weeks post op. Then, your mood will lighten and, with your weight loss starting to add up, you'll feel more positive and have a better outlook on life. Just keep telling yourself that you will not always feel this way! You WILL be back to feeling like your old self. Just give it time!

I posted this on the main board a while back....its good info, and there is a similair section on hibernation/hunting mode: Stolen from the profile of Don W @ http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=W1078246899 "Long term weight loss and maintenance after Gastric Bypass This page is sort of a "user's manual" for the stomach pouch created in the Roux-en-Y Gastric Bypass. The guide is targeted to patients who underwent GBP more than 6 months previously, but the best results are achieved by patients who begin to live by these guidelines even before the procedure. Thanks go to Latham Flanagan, MD. Many of the concepts and many of the terms used in this outline have been learned from him. Dr. Flanagan practices bariatric surgery in Eugene, OR. The first year after gastric bypass is usually very rewarding, but this time can also be confusing, frustrating and frightening. The function of the stomach pouch "tool" changes almost continuously over the first six months, and continues to change periodically over the year or so. Just when the patient feels they have begun to understand the stomach pouch/tool and how to use it, things change all over again. There is an especially frightening change that takes place around 6-9 months after the surgery. The stomach pouch softens and expands slightly so that a patient regains a regular appetite and can "suddenly" tolerate a significantly larger amount of food. Patients frequently worry that something has pulled apart or broken on the inside, though this is rarely the case. This increased interest in food and increased capacity for food is a very natural and appropriate part of the recovery process after gastric bypass surgery. The reason it frightens patients so much is that they had previously felt they had control of their weight for the first time in their lives, and the renewed appetite threatens that they are losing control once again. This page is about how to gain control of your weight using the stomach pouch "tool" and to keep control of the weight for life. The first thing to realize is that for the first six months or so after gastric bypass you did NOT have control of your weight. The pounds were going to come off almost no matter what you did. The stomach pouch could not handle enough calories to maintain weight for the first few months - we call this the "honeymoon" period after gastric bypass. The return of appetite and the increase in food capacity signal an end to the honeymoon period and a transition to the rest of life. Your surgeon has created a stomach pouch that will be your tool to use to control your weight for life. We describe the stomach pouch as a tool so that patients understand the necessity that you learn how to use it, and stick with the "rules of the tool" over time. Patients who are aiming for the best long term success begin using these concepts and rules immediately after the gastric bypass. The time to really choose your new habits is during the early recovery after surgery - this is when your motivation is highest, and the rest of your life has been thrown out of kilter by the surgery anyway. Use this early recovery period to choose your new exercise and diet habits. And even though patients lose weight "no matter what" for the first few months, use of the concepts outlined below will also maximize the weight loss during the honeymoon period - take advantage of this time so that when appetite and capacity return there is not so much further to go in achieving a weight goal. The "Rules of the Tool" OK, here are the magic "rules of the tool" (are you ready?): Diet and Exercise. Seriously. The good news is that diet and exercise, supported by your pouch/tool, can help you achieve your goal weight with excellent energy and without uncomfortable hunger. The specific guidelines are below: Exercise keys Regular exercise is at least as important to success as following the diet recommendations outlined below. In this context, regular exercise means some kind of vigorous aerobic activity, at least 45 minutes in duration, at least 5 days per week. Patients who achieve this goal can reliably expect to have improved energy and improved weight loss. Hibernation mode and Hunting mode It appears easiest to understand these benefits by thinking back to the evolution of our ancestors. Back in "cave man days" starvation was a constant threat, and our bodies were evolved to store any extra calories in preparation for the lean times. During lean times, the body is programmed to do everything possible to hold onto the calorie stores. So the first response of the body when faced with starvation (during a drought for our ancestors, or after gastric bypass surgery for us) is to conserve all possible energy by turning down the "metabolic thermostat." This means that fewer calories are burned and the person feels like sleeping and being away from activity - they are easily fatigued. Some call this the "hibernation mode," and it is as if the long winter has come and the best adaptation is to go way back into the cave and wait until the weather (and the hunting) improve. (Note that the hibernation response can also lead to depression and difficulty interacting with others.) The role of exercise in this situation can be thought of as "fooling" the body into a different mode called "hunting mode." If the body is treated to regular vigorous physical activity during starvation, its interpretation may be that the person is foraging or hunting. The body (from an evolutionary standpoint) would be in favor of hunting because it could lead to more calorie intake, so it provides more energy to facilitate the acquisition of food - it turns up the "metabolic thermostat". This upregulation means that more calories are burned throughout the 24 hour period (besides the extra calories burned during the exercise) and the person has a significantly increased feeling of energy. Note that this discussion about hibernation mode and hunting mode is written as a way of understanding the observed effects of exercise after gastric bypass - these are not scientifically established physiologic events. The best time to begin your exercise program is before the gastric bypass. Again we're serious. Success in gastric bypass is all about choosing the right habits, with the support of the surgery to improve your success. If you exercise and diet before the surgery, you will have a strong impact on reducing your surgical risk. You will also benefit from having your plan in place, so you don't have to figure it out during the confused recovery phase after surgery. If exercise is not begun before surgery, then it should be started as soon as possible after surgery. Discuss details with your surgeon, but generally we advise patients to maximize their physical activity from the outset. This starts with walking on the same day as surgery, and should progress to more vigorous activity as the months go by. People who put off regular exercise until they feel "all recovered" or who try to start exercising when they realize they are not on course to reach their goal weight generally do not achieve or keep the new habit. Patients who work hard on exercise early after the surgery find it very rewarding. As the weight falls off, the capacity for exercise improves dramatically, with significant improvements on a week-by-week basis. Two objections to the exercise program that we frequently hear are that the patient is too heavy, or too fatigued. The first of these is unfortunately valid in many of our patients who are extremely heavy - people with a BMI of 70 or more frequently cannot engage in routine exercise. The good news is that people with extreme weights burn a large number of calories by simply walking. The amount of physical work done (which translates into calories burned) comes from how much mass is moved and how far it goes. The message here is that the benefits of exercise can be realized in many ways - just work as hard as you can and do it frequently. Fatigue is the second objection. Patients sometimes tell us that they can't imagine walking to the door and back, especially in the first few months after surgery. Our answer is to do your best to exercise anyway. This complaint is likely to be a manifestation of hibernation syndrome, which can be shaken off by exercise. Diet Keys The goals of the long term gastric bypass diet are: consume minimal calories (promote weight loss) consume adequate nutrition (achieve excellent long term health) achieve the two goals above without undue hunger or cravings These goals can all be achieved by using the pouch/tool with the right kinds of food, at the right intervals, and with appropriate management of fluids. The first thing to understand is that when the pouch is filled with food it sends signals to the brain that say that hunger is satisfied - no additional food is needed. This feeling is called "satiety." Any time a mature pouch is stretched by stuff inside it, the pouch will send a satiety signal to the brain, and (here's the cool part) the satiety signal will continue as long as the stuff is still in the pouch! Therefore, keeping in mind the goals above, a patient should do the following: Eat no more than three meals per day, with NO nibbling between meals. This will limit the volume of food and naturally limit the number of calories. One of these meals should definitely include breakfast - it has been shown that absence of nutrient intake causes the appetite center to "gear up" or become more sensitive, resulting in greater overall calorie intake through the day. This may work by means of an "ileal satiety feedback receptor" which (when exposed to nutrients several hours after they are taken in) may help suppress appetite. Use solid protein (chicken, fish, etc) as the basis for each meal. It is OK to use some vegetables for variety. The solid protein will meet your nutritional needs, and it is the best food to "hang around" in the pouch to give a longer feeling of satiety. Many patients learn early on that they cannot hold nearly as much chicken as they can mashed potatoes - this is a GOOD effect. The effect exists because solid proteins do not pass out of the pouch too easily, resulting in less volume consumed. Simple carbohydrates (potatoes, pasta, rice, bread) should also be minimized because of their effect on blood sugar. Simple carbohydrates are close relatives of sugar, so that the calories in these foods are rather easily absorbed and they tend to "rush" into the system and drive the blood sugar up quickly. Because the amount of carbohydrate consumed was not very large the blood sugar soon begins to fall, but by this time the pancreas is pumping out large amounts of insulin (a hormone which pushes blood sugar down) and this combination causes the blood sugar to drop too low. At this point the patient is experiencing hypoglycemia, and the deep urge to consume food - if they consume a simple carbohydrate (such as juice, or a bit of potato) they will be back on the blood sugar roller coaster. A cycle of blood sugar highs and lows such as this leads to consumption of way too many calories, and the calories have no nutritional benefit. On the other hand, proteins take a while to digest, and so they are absorbed slowly. This provides a longer term steadier energy source for your body, avoiding the high/crash cycle. Don't drink liquids with meals, and don't drink for at least two hours after your meal. Liquids taken after a meal will wash the food out of the pouch, releasing the tension on the walls of the pouch, and losing the feeling of satiety. In other words, consumption of liquids (with a mature pouch/tool) may be followed by a feeling of emptiness or hunger. Note that soup is a particularly poor food choice, because it is just like drinking with your meal. The liquefied food will pass quickly through the pouch, which allows more calories to be consumed and leaves the pouch empty. Note also that this part of the plan is not appropriate to begin practicing in the first three months or so after gastric bypass - in the early period after surgery it is enough of a struggle to get in adequate liquid (and hunger is not a huge challenge) that it is appropriate to begin drinking liquids about 30 minutes after you eat. It's a good idea to re-read this set of instructions each month until you've really "got it." It takes a lot of effort, determination, and practice to use your pouch/tool in the best way - the good news is that the results are worth it! Credit is given to: Kelly Bergeon LOD Group" **** Good Luck to All Michelle

Wow! Thanks to all of you guys and gals for sharing such great informtion! I had my surgery on 11/10/04. xoxo Alice Alice From Dallas 285/240/175