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Topic: RE: As we approach 1 year post-op...
What have I learned about eating?
That I use food for much more than sustenance for my body. I learned that I didn't know what to do with myself of constant eating were not an option. I learned that food was my hobby...my friend...my companion...my mentor. I learned that food was my drug of choice and my way to avoid dealing with emotions, situations, crisis and celebrations.
What have I learned about myself?
I am my own worst enemy. I am stronger than I ever thought. I do not take care of and or love myself nearly as much as I do the rest of the world. I am not alone.
What have I learned about others?
The people you thought were the least judgmental - are some of the most predjudiced. The people you thought had no time for you - respond when you smile at them. In most circles - thin is acceptable - fat is not.
10 years ago??
I wish I had known I was ok. I was a decent person. Being thin feels great...physically and emotionally...but I am still me. The same person I was. I wish I would have known I was worthy of my own admiration. I wish I would have known noone cares about my fat thighs or my bulging tummy. They are living their own lives. I wish I could have seen the light at the end of the tunnel.
My ongoing issues:
snacking...eating to make me feel better...self-sabotaging
My biggest struggle:
Fear. Fear of the unknown...fear that I will mess this up...fear that I won't have longtime success...fear that I do not have what it takes to make it thru this....fear that I will wake up tomorrow and will be the fat girl all over again.
Topic: RE: testing...testing...
Hey Leah!
Thank you so much for the well thought out and in depth response.
I guess it just brings it home once again for me how different and yet how much the same we all are.
I know I will only be as successful as I allow myself to be.
I wish I had a crystal ball to look about 6 more months ahead to see if I have really stayed the course...today I feel confident.
A conversation with my MIL tomorrow or another round of crappy PMS might change that
Thanks again and its nice to know we have a sounding board and truly empathetic input when we need.
Topic: RE: As we approach 1 year post-op...
What have I learned about eating?
Hmmmm, where to start! First, I learned that I needed a lot more protein per day that I have eaten in my average day as a pre-op. I never was a big meat-eater.... I probably averaged less than 30 grams of protein per day before my WLS journey started! I've also learned more about the good/bad carbs. I've learned ways to make things healthier than the normal way....
What have I learned about myself?
I CAN lose weight! I'll be 40 this year. I've dieted more times than I care to even try to count in those years (all but the first 10 that is). And most of my diet attempts failed miserably with no weight loss at all. Part of that was my severe hypothyroid situation. Part of it was poor portion control. But, I always thought that it was mostly just the fact that nothing I did worked for losing weight. Now, 165 pounds lighter, I see that I can do it and I can keep it off. I just needed my handy-dandy tool to help me out!
What have I learned about others?
Oh, that could be long! LOL First, people like to feed those they love. Why? Who knows! I guess it is because food can be such a comfort to people that creating a special meal or taking someone for a special meal gives a person the sense that they are bringing comfort to others. And, food events are big social times too. In the average family these days, the only time there is any real conversation is over food. We don't slow down enough any other time of day! So, food becomes the focal point of family time and time with friends.... We have to change that! We have to learn to make time to socialize that is not done over or around food! I've used exercise time for this lately. My 18 year old daughter and I have grown apart quite a bit since she moved out of my house. I just added her to my Curves membership and I stop to get her and take her with me when I go to Curves. She doesn't need the extra exercise (less than 25% body fat...lucky girl!), but it isn't hurting her any AND I get to chat with her as we go round the circuit. We don't have anything else distracting us. The guys aren't around to demand our attention (my hubby, her boyfriend). I usually go at a time of day when there are only one or two other folks there, so we get to exercise and chat and usually have a good time. It makes the time pass faster too!
What do I wish I had known 10 years ago?
Well, I wish we'd exercised more.... That goes without saying. I wish we'd learned sooner that what we thought of as one portion was usually 2-3. I wish I'd has WLS 10 years ago! My kids were still in the single digits then (5 and 8) and I would have gotten SO much more out of these last 10 years if I'd done it even at the weight I am at now (245)!! I was already in the 300s then. I wish I had had a better understanding of the effect of my thyroid issues then so that I was keener to the symptoms and what they meant long term. I wish I'd been taking even a plain ole multivitamin all those years... The only vitamins I took over the years was the prenatals when I was pregnant! Live and learn, right?
What bad habits do I still need to dump?
Well, I still have to MAKE myself go exercise. I still am too sedentary. I need to get more in the habit of exercising. I need to get a weight resistance program going. I NEED TO STOP PROCRASTINATING!!! That is what it all boils down to!! LOL
What do you struggle with the most?
For me, it really is distance... Let me explain. I live 25 miles from the nearest grocery store, place to exercise, Walmart, etc. I live in the country on top of a hill in the middle of freaking nowhere! Gas is $3 a gallon and my vehicle gets 15 to 16 mpg. SO, to drive that 25 miles each way to go to Curves costs me about $10. If I went to Curves 10 times a month, with the cost of gas and the cost of my single membership it would cost me $130 a month! So, due to this, I don't go enough! I don't have much in the way of exercise equipment at home, so I'm restricted in what I can do there. Mowing the lawn is a big part of my exercise routine. We're having a drought where I live, so mowing it every 2 weeks just ain't getting it these days! I have to do other stuff! I did make it to Curves twice this week! I am going to try and go to Curves EVERY time I have a reason of any sort to go to town.... Need groceries? Go exercise. Need animal feed from the feed store? Go exercise. Need to see the Doc or pic up Rxs? Go exercise! You get the point. Problem is that sometimes the timeframe isn't right. They are only open till 7. They are closed at lunch time and they are only open for 3 hours on Saturday and not at all on Sunday.... SO, I'm going to try to get there whenever I can! I have to start getting some of my money's worth out of that membership! I've been a member since last October and the number of times I have exercised there is pitiful! Hubby would sh*t if he knew how little I'd actually used that membership! LOL
So, for me, it all boils down to exercise... I am not motivated enough. I don't do it enough. When I DO do it, I sometimes over do it and can't or don't want to do it again for days. Sometimes this is overdoing to the point of trouble with my discs in my back and days of pain. Sometimes it is overdoing it (like with all day lawnmowing) to the point of days of muscle soreness (uphill/downhill is hard on bad knees!). But, if I was doing it more often, I could do less at a time and get more overall benefit from it... You get the point! I would love to have some sort of weight resistance exercise machine at home. My surgeon recommends Bowflex or a generic version of it. Who can afford that! LOL I don't need another monthly payment! But, if I can find one used and cheap, I'm going to snatch it up!
Any suggestions????
Lea
Topic: As we approach 1 year post-op...
What have you learned about eating?
What have you learned about yourself?
What have you learned about others?
What do you wish you'd known 10 years ago?
What bad habits do you still need to dump?
What do you struggle with the most?
I'll post my answers too!
Hugs,
Lea
Topic: RE: testing...testing...
NO FLAMES HERE!! I'm going to just write as I am thinking and please don't take anything as an attack!! I am in the same boat as you! I'd like to "just eat" and not worry about it and do just that for months at a time. Then, I go back to logging what I eat... So, here's my feedback!
As I read what you had eaten, I kept thinking "where's the protein first part?" Even on days when I don't think about anything else, I think protein first...
I go through cycles I guess. For months (like last Dec to May), I will keep a food log and track every bite of food that goes into my body. And, I do sort of tend to obsess over it. As I work from home, I can stop at the computer and stick in the info after each meal or snack and then obsess a bit more about the next meal/snack to come! LOL Then, for no known reason, I stop. I tell myself that I have done this so long that I can do it in my sleep! And, I'll go for a few months (now June and into July) and just eat. I am very conscious about getting my protein first. I am very conscious of what is too many carbs (die hard label reader!) and what is not a good choice. I eat my protein food first at EVERY meal/snack. I carry protein snacks in my bag (baggie of pecans, pack of Just the Cheese, etc. I don't do protein shakes. I get all my protein from food sources and my surgeon prefers it that way. I aim for 65 to 80 grams per day. WITH THAT SAID, I sometimes sit and really think about what I have eaten in the past 24 hours--calories, carbs, and protein... Most days when I AM logging it, I average 1000 to 1200 calories, 60 to 75 grams of carbs, and about 75 to 80 grams of protein. The days that I retrace when I AM NOT logging it, I generally end up between 800-1000 calories, 55-60 grams of carbs, and 65 to 70 grams of protein. I actually find that I eat less when I am not counting it all and I can see this in my rate of loss too. And, when I am logging it and look at it and realize that I am not where I should be, I eat more to get it there. So, while I do get in more protein, I also eat more calories and sometimes more carbs. SO, I'm not convinced that writing it all down is helping me on the whole. But, there are a few days here and there when I realize (too late in the evening) that I didn't get all my protein in or I ate too many carbs or not nearly enough calories to stay out of starvation mode and I have to consciously think about food the next few days to be sure I am getting in what I should. I don't necessarily go back to writing things down, but I do think more about each meal and what I need to eat. For instance, yesterday I needed a lot of protein still by dinner time. I grilled myself a ribeye steak and ate that with some beans on the side (actually ate the steak and ate the beans about 1/2 hour later). This helped me get in 70 grams for the day. If I had not been thinking about what I was eating, I would have had part of the steak, a bit of beans, and probably several bites of baked potato.... See the difference? And, when it was all over, I'd be thinking about all those extra carbs I ate instead of thinking about how I got all my protein in for the day! LOL
Another thing to think about is that we ARE still new at this! Yes, it has been almost a year. BUT, how many years did it take us to learn to eat? If we'd been left to eat what we wanted/liked as kids, how many of us would ever have tried a green veggie? How many of us would have eaten broccoli? My youngest sister has 4 kids who think chicken nuggets are a food group! They eat a green veggie maybe once a week. They drink soda all the time (water? Yeah right!). They eat at McD's at least 3-5 times per week (either lunch or dinner meal). They do pizza no less than twice per week. She buys cookies, chips, etc as snack foods--not baby carrots or peanut butter! Are they skinny? Heck no! Sis is 5'6" and about 230 pounds. Her hubby is 6'4" but weighs well into the 300s. Their kids are just about the same as far as weight out of proportion to height goes. But, that is their lifestyle. Did they (sister and her hubby) eat this way as kids in their parents' homes? No! They ate balanced meals with veggies and all! They (the whole danged family) have NO concept of protein needed for the body. They have no concept of "good" versus "bad" carbs. And, they don't WANT to know. They eat what they like, not what their body needs.
BUT, we--as WLS postops--had to get past that and relearn what we should have learned all those years ago. For some of us it was not relearning it, but more or less just actually doing it. For others, it is truly not knowing and having to actually learn it all from scratch. As the wife of a diabetic man who also has high blood pressure and high cholesterol, even before I began having health issues of my own, I always prepared foods that were lower in carbs, higher in protein, lower in fat/cholesterol. But, portion sizes were an issue. So, for me at least, it wasn't so much WHAT I ate, but more the fact that I never ate breakfast and ate too large a portion at lunch and dinner. Plus, I was a late night eater/snacker. That combined with severe hypothyroidism got me to 410 pounds. I wasn't a binger. I wasn't a carboholic (most of the time! LOL). I just ate too much of what I did eat and at the wrong times of day.... Now, all that is history! And the weight is coming off and I feel TONS better. But, I have to live this lifestyle for the rest of my life or all that can change again....
I guess that what I am saying in such a long-winded way is that we have to focus our minds on actually WANTING those foods that work for us--the protein items off of the buffet or picnic table instead of the refined/carb-heavy/sweet stuff that we drooled over in the past. When we go to someplace with a buffet, I walk the whole thing and see what is there before I put anything on my plate. If there is something there that I would like to try that is not a totally good choice, I make sure to balance it with other stuff that IS a good choice and I eat the good things first. For instance, at the gathering where you ate the cake, I may have selected the cake, but I would also have selected something high in protein first--maybe a piece of chicken or a burger patty... I'd have eaten that first and then nibbled a bit on the cake while visiting with those I wanted to socialize with... Just because it is a "party" or festive occasion doesn't mean that the rules of eating change.... Same goes for my kids. They are not WLS patients, but they have always known what I expect when they fill a plate with food. My 18 year old is terrible about not wanting to eat a green veggie. She goes to the buffet and comes back with a plate that may have a piece of steak, some mashed taters/gravy, some mac/cheese, and some carrots. She sits down at the table and I say "Eliza....What is wrong with this picture?" Her response (in a sarcastic tone), "Where's the green vegetable?" She knows! I have always been that way--even when she was little! So, before she eats what she already has, she'll run get a bit of salad or such to get a veggie in before she eats all that starchy stuff. Her body type can handle the starchy/carby stuff. Mine can't. But, I still want her to eat what her system needs! LOL
Now I feel like I have preached a sermon to the choir! But, I think about this stuff on a daily basis. I think about this stuff especially when grocery shopping and meal planning. My whole family is healthier since my surgery as THEY have had to think about some of this stuff that I used to take care of for the whole family. THEY have learned about what is and isn't a good source of protein. THEY have learned more about carbs/starches. They have all 3 lost a bit of weight just due to those changes in food selection and thought patterns. And, I hope that it has long term benefits for them and not just during this period of adjustment. Will it? We'll see! But, they can't say later that they didn't know this stuff! LOL
Stop kicking yourself about yesterday. You know what you have to do. Yesterday is gone and you can't get it back now. I'm not gonna say "don't let it happen again." We will have bad days here and there! But, we have to know enough to realize it and do better afterwards! And, kicking our own ass on the exercise routine helps! LOL But don't let "I'll just exercise 30 more minutes this week" give you an okay to eat something you know you shouldn't! LOL
I'm going to stop now!! Fire off a response if you still have any energy after reading this novel!
Hugs,
Lea
Topic: RE: Anyone else panicking???
Christina,
My surgery sister We are in about the same position. My weight loss has really slowed down and that saddens me. I knew it was going to happen. I look at every pound lost as a step in the right direction. We are so close to getting to be where we want to be. Life is so much better and I couldn't ask for more. Most days I stick to my eating plan and exercise when I can. I don't eat anything with more than 10 grams of sugar and I haven't pushed that limit. Could I be better, sure...but we are only human. Some days I eat a few chips or crackers and then for the next few days I don't. I've found what works for me. It's all individual as we have found out from reading and posting. Am I in a panic, no....I will get where I need to be in my own time.
LeAnne
Topic: RE: Anyone else panicking???
Candy,
You and your doc are right. I do believe that my biggest obstacle to success is myself and some unrealistic goals.
That being said...how phenomenol for you to on the cusp of normalacy in the weight arena. I always said I just wanted to be normal..average... You are my hero!
Stay the good fight and keep being that beacon....there are lots of us still lost in the dark and we need you guys to help get us to port safely.
Topic: testing...testing...
I have entered a new phase in my mental/emotional battle with obesity.
At almost a year out I ventured out yesterday with the mindset that I would just be "normal". I wouldn't count protein...ounces....carbs etc.
Just eat using my pouch/stomach as my "inner voice" relying on it to tell me when to stop...when I was hungry...when I was satisfied.
I have now retroactively tallied the score (I am pretty sure I remembered everything I consumed but as we all know that is a flawed method)...to be truly scientific I should have at least written it down as I went but I didn't want to inhibit myself or skew the behavior in any way.
This is how close to normal portions or choices I got :
Breakfast - protein smoothie
Lunch - .5 ounces brisket - 3 tablespoons potato salad - 1 tablespoon pinto beans - 1 oatmeal cookie (I actually had much more on my plate but this is about what I consumed - I did have a fleeting moment of my pouch groaning and me still wanting what was on the plate)
Dinner - 3 tablespoons potato salad 1 table spoon beans - 1 small piece American Flag cake (wasn't really interested in the food just wanted to have a reason to sit at the table and socialize I guess)
Snacks: Popsicle and about 5 chips (these two make no sense - it was about 11:30 p.m. and I was working on some job stuff...totally no thought involved and the most scary of all the food consumed for the day)
So I then called my average sister in law (about 5' 5" and about 130 lbs) and asked what she had to eat yesterday. To the best of her memory ( and she was pretty sure she didn't remember everything) she had:
breakfast: nothing
lunch: chicken breast, grilled veggies, salad and average slice of apple pie
dinner: 3 enchiladas, rice, beans, guacamole, chips & salsa, fried ice cream
snacks: 100 cal wheat thins and a granola bar
According to fitday.com
I had: 1166 cals 52 g fat 140 g carbs 40 g protein
She had: 2345 cals 106 g fat 252 g carbs 109 g protein
A side note: she added at the end of her list that she was bloated...felt stuffed and did not usually eat like this but was at 2 different functions yesterday. I asked her how she felt about her food choices for the day...she said mentally she had made a note to skip lunch for a few days and do about 30 minutes more StairMaster tomorrow. She experienced no real guilt...just resigned to the no lunch thing and felt like the trade off was acceptable.
After putting pen to paper I felt huge guilt over the snacks, cake and cookie. I had some negative inner dialog and some thought to extra exercise. I did not plan to let my eating yesterday effect today's because I know I need protein and proper food and I knew that limiting my food would be counter productive.
I also wondered to myself - if it were not for the holiday - would I have eaten differently - and I think the answer would have been yes - I probably would have foregone the cookie and cake...just not sure if something else would be in its place.
I would like to do the experiment again on a non-holiday day but to tell the truth I am too scared at this point.
The experiment may or may not have yielded insight into my eating psyche now but it did reveal the following to me:
I need structure...I need to write down and analyze what I eat. It makes me feel safe and like I am being faithful to my commitment.
I need good food ...I felt like crap last night and still this morning
Water makes a HUGE difference in my energy level and skin in just 1 day (I probably had about 16 ozs all day - lots of sf tea)
I am still addicted to food...I still get excited when it's a free-for-all, the thought of eating sans rules made me practically giddy and if it were not for the physical limitations (lets hypothetically say I had been simply dieting for the last 9 months)...I would have binged and probably ended on a downhill spiral.
Bottom line I guess is I am still a fat girl with an internal baby-sitter that I really need.
But one of these days soon I am going to have to be trusted to stay home alone....
Topic: RE: Anyone else panicking???
Okay....I just read both of your July posts.....LOVED, LOVED, LOVED your 10 month accomplishments, very well stated and I know I share in many of the same things you are celebrating in.....yeahhhhh, US!!!!
Now, I must share with you a recent experience I had at a follow-up visit with one of the doctors.....I mentioned to her that I was just ONE little teenie-tiny number away from the FREAKIN' NORMAL BMI number and SHE FLIPPED on me!!! Seriously, flipped...."you don't get into this surgery thinking you are going to come out of it at a NORMAL BMI....no one ever told you that was going to happen, when you signed up for this, you were told....you will lose at least 30% of your excess body weight any where from 12 to 18 months after your surgery, if you accomplish more than that, you can consider yourself very successful in your Journey"....you know what, she is right! I have been extremely successful over the past 10 months, I am down 166 lbs.(and, yes, I had a few complications which could have contributed to a rapid weight loss, but I have also had tremendous succuss, too!). Sometimes, I think we need a little reminder / reality check....we all have been successful in regaining our health and if we remain focused and continue looking forward, we will continue to celebrate in this amazing Journey we all share with each other!
Thanks again for sharing your accomplishments with us all, you hit it right on the head!
Enjoy your success and celebrate in it!!!! Best wishes....Candy
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on 7/5/07 11:38 am - Florence, KY
on 7/5/07 11:38 am - Florence, KY
Topic: RE: Anyone else panicking???
Yes it i****ting me hard as well. Of course the goal I set for myself was probably not obtainable and I am beating myself up over something that couldn't be done. Go figure.. it has always been all or nothing for me in the past... at least now I can't binge or stuff my feelings with food. I am thankful for that!
I started at 370 and weighed 206 this morning. I wanted to be at 170 by my 1 yr, but 200 lbs in 12 months is probably not a good idea. So I am adjusting my plan to breaking 200 by 8/23/07. That should be something I can do and maybe a little more as a bonus! I was really surprised this morning on the scale as I have been stuck at the 211-213 for almost 2 months. It has been so frustrating. For the last week I have eaten more than ever and drop 8 lbs... makes ya go huh!
I am pushing my liquids, getting 80-90 a day and forcing 80-90 proteins too. This has to be the difference since nothing else has changed. I will be hitting the gym again this next week as the littles ones will all be at camp. I hope to see another jump by the time they return.
Hang in there... remember this isn't a race and that getting healthy doesn't have a certain weight to it. I can walk up and down the stairs, I am walking on my own at the stores and not in a wheel chair, I can tie my shoes without turning all red in the face, I can sit in a booth at a restaurant and in a standard chair at the movies... life is good!