HELP!!/ CONFESSIONS OF A 6 MONTHER

JESS S.
on 9/22/06 10:53 pm - SOUTH ST PAUL, MN
I can so relate to the ups and downs of my fellow 6 monther's. I seldom post but try to lurk and catch up once a week or so. I have been having trouble with sticking to (even remembering) the rules recently and am trying to figure out why I have been sabotaging (sp?) all my efforts. I know what I need to do, I have been having trouble doing it though. Anyone else been through similar times? How did you pull yourself out of the slump? My stats: height-5' Surgery (RNY) 3/27/06: 235, morbid obesity- pants size 24 tops 3x Today: 146, moderately overweight pants 12 top 16 Yes, I am happy with my weight and size loss up to this point. I was doing fine until I went on vacation with my 2 brothers.(I have been back a week) I had some beers, drank with a couple meals and did some snacking. Nothing horrendous but not always eating as I should. While on vacation we did alot of walking and it felt great. It was apparent that I was stronger and had more energy then our last vacation 2 years ago. The problem is that I just can't seem to get back on track. On my birthday this past week I broke all the rules except did not eat surgary foods and felt miserable. I was snacking again yesterday--my daughter says that it's the salt talking to me--I crave salt and snack type foods. Up until now I have always said to myself that I could eat what ever I choose then I would choose to stick with the rules. Recently my choices have been bad. Why am I doing this? I feel like I don't even know how to eat anymore. I haven't been exercising-can't seem to make myself, there is always an excuse. Is this my old thinking pushing to the front of my brain again? I am scared of regaining. Or am I really scared of being normal, dare I say attractive? Not having my fat to hide behind? I don't know. I want to get past this though. I have my 6 month check up on Friday and can get advice from the professionals but would really like some help from the real pros on the board.
BabyRuth2u
on 9/23/06 12:35 am - Pittsburgh, PA
Hi Jess, first Happy Belated Birthday!! It really is tough lately isn't it? We've all been strolling along these past months, life's been grand, nothing could hold us back from losing weight, then one day WHAM!!!!! it's like it's all over. Now it's a struggle in so many ways. I know I've heard weightloss would slow, that we'd get hungrier etc, but I don't think anyone said it'd be like this. I think the only person that can help us/any of us with our struggles is ourselves. There is no one making/forcing us to break the rules. We make the decisions as to what goes in our mouths and what doesn't. We are the ones who made the decision to have the surgery. It didn't matter what others thought in the end, it was what we wanted, what we knew it was time to do. We took this chance with all it's possible risks to be able to have this CHANCE at a new life. One that is healthier and more active. One that would allow us to live longer, to breath better, to feel amazing. I think we need to sit ourselves down and really evaluate what we are doing at this point in time. My weight still has not moved since Sept 1. or at least it has not moved in the downward direction. But up by 2 lbs. I've now been at this 222 for days. I keep saying that I'm not doing anything different. I don't really think that I am, but I think what it is, is that what I have been doing is not any longer acceptable. The first months the weight comes off pretty much no matter what you do, so you can get away with a few things. ie: In my case I've thought about it the past few days and I know my downfall is probably the extra protein shake a day I'm having, on some days I've had two add'l ones (which would make 4 a day). At 110 to 180 calories a pop (depending on how I make them) that's 440 to 720 calories a day just in shakes! Then I eat twice a day. So depending, I go from let's say 900 to 1200 or 1300 calories a day. That doesn't sound like a lot of calories, perhaps not for a "normie", but for a wls patient 1300 might just be too darn much! I also continue to eat nuts. Nuts are high in FAT!!! So, even though I may not be gaining per se, I am not losing because I am having too many calories in shakes (especially if they are the AchievOne, they are low calorie and in sugars in general 3.5 sugars, but if you have 3 a day!! well..) But as you said about the salt... I think my body is wanting salt. I've mentioned before that I was never what I considered a snacker. Meaning I did not often eat chips, nuts (hardly ever), candy bars etc. I was just fat, food carbs, food in general (fast food) and not getting any exercise. I could buy a bag of chips at Christmas time for company, what was left in the bag uneaten was found in my cupboard 6 months later then thrown away. But now since wls, after a few months out I find myself wanting to snack all the time. I went through my first spell with FF Pringles, then Sun Chips, and then to nuts. I found with each of these that I just couldn't put them down, they would call my name all day until I picked and picked and they were gone. Sure it may take one or two days to finish the can/pack off, but I did it. Those are calories I surely don't need. As I said up until recently weight was coming off, but now it's not. I see, I know I can't continue doing this, eating nuts. I've told myself this a few days ago, but I have not stopped. I keep trying to tell myself that it's ok, I can get away with it for a bit more then I'm going to have to stop. Well when am I going to make this decision? When I gain 10lbs? or more? So I think we need to sit ourselves down and really look at the little things we are doing that we think are harmless and we might just find out that they are not. They are causing us to go in the wrong direction. Yes they are old habits rearing their ugly heads. It could be the fear of truly being a "thin" person, being someone we've not been in a long time, or as in my case never have been. I do exercise, alot compared to some. It all depends on the time you have and the desire. I keep fighting it ever day. I get up not wanting to do it, but know that I should, that if I want to lose the weight and keep it off then I must do it! But it doesn't seem to be helping. So I've been taking a look, thinking lately what it is that I've been doing food wise that HAS to be the culprit. And here is what I've come up with. So here are my confessions: 1. I eat way too many nuts. Those things have 180 to 200 calories a pop, are high in fat and that's for like 1 oz. I definately, even in one sitting eat more than 1 oz. 2. I have been having too many protein shakes a day. Sure, I'm getting lots and lots of protein, but also some extra sugar that's not good. So I need to go back to just two a day and they need to be good whey protein, not milk proteins as in the AchievOnes. 3. We definately eat out too much. I'm not eating a lot of food. Quantity is not a problem. But when you are eating out, someone else is preparing the food and you don't know what all goes into it. Hidden sugars, hidden fats, and not even that they are hidden you just don't know exactly how much is in them. You pick a little of this, a little of that, it all adds up. Having a night out, a treat is what eating out is to be about, not a way of life. We are always running and just stop here and stop there. I know that in the long run, and I realized, thought about that this week, that if I don't cut back on the eating out, then Im going to fail at this in the end. It's why I was obese in the first place. No, I do not eat fast food, (with the exception of Wendys Chili, i will stop and pick that up), but I have not touched any other type of fast food. But if I don't change my ways of eating in that regard then even though I get to a goal at some point, I can see the weight slowly coming back on if I don't limit eating out. So those are the things I feel are doing me wrong. And I am glad that you posted your concerns today and shared with us. It has helped me to fess up to myself, to put all the thoughts I've been having together in one place to say "Hey, look at the things you are doing, this is why you aren't losing any weight right now". I know you are scared of regaining and you should be. We all should be. It's a REAL reality. We know it can happen, we've heard about it happening. So what are we going to do about it? Are we going to let it happen? I say we don't! I say we sit down with ourselves, take an evaluation and promise ourselves to correct the things gone wrong. We have this great tool, we know the rules, let's use them!!! Keep posting here with eachother, it's great support. It helps to have others understand what you are going through. We can give eachother's a kick in the butt. But the only effective kick in the butt is the one you give yourself. You live your life each day, you know what's going in and what you're putting out (exercise). Don't make excuses to ourselves. If we have local support groups, go to them. I know I find they always help me feel better and give me some new inspiration. Don't beat yourself up for what's already done. Today is a new start, you know what you need to do. It is tough, but you can do it. You've done it for 6 months. You have the strength and willpower. Today, I promise to make the effort to follow all the rules and not let temptation steer me wrong. -RuthAnn
Tamara L.
on 9/23/06 10:35 am - Winston-Salem, NC
Hey Ruth Ann~~ I don't know what it is about that 222 thresh-hold. I have been there for about 3 weeks now. It is so frustrating! I hit my 6 month anniversary on the 21st of this month and am celebrating it with a lovely plateau I have been evaluation my habits, also. I believe I drink too many calories in protein shakes, too. I use the Proscore 100 and have grown to really love it! I work a fulltime (plus) job in nursing and I am in graduate school, also. I attend church regularly and squeeze family time in the middle of all this. I have kindof lost my exercise priority--but I am going to find a way to make it more regular! I love this OH board.....it let's us know that we all are not alone in our struggles. It's fun to celebrate our successes also with folks who know the depth of its meaning! You are looking great! I'll pray for you to get under your 222....please pray that I'll get under my 222! God bless! Tamara
sparkles
on 9/23/06 3:27 am - North Richland Hills, TX
Ya know.. I just wrote a post about confessions.. I'm gonna repost that part here... If it helps, know that we all are fighting demons, some much harder than others. The only person that can make you succeed is yourself. I read a post on another board, a preop newbie.. saying that she had tried a bunch of diets and nothing long term ever happened. Now she is going to *try* Gastric Bypass... as if it is something you can quit if you dont like it.. It is a life decision that we have already made... we can all make the best of it!! Now that was the good stuff.. on to the bad. I'm entitling this segment CONFESSIONS: 1. I'm snacking too much. Its mostly in the afternoon, and its not ALOT... persay.. maybe a granola bar (90 calories), or a half pack of Pumpkin seeds(120 calories) but I'm sure its adding up. 2. I drink with my meals when we're out, and sometimes take a few drinks before its been an hour, if I'm thirsty. I dont know why I do it if we go out to eat and not at home.. I think its the waiting for food.. have to have something then mentality. I'm not sure 3. I'm not getting near enough water. I drink maybe 2 bottles (16.9 oz a piece), 1 protein shake (10.5 oz) M-F before my work out, and a couple of glasses of Tea thru out the evening. 4. I had a donut this morning... and it was SOOO good!! A warm, Krispy Kreme donut. MMMM.... bad me.. but it was sooo good! 5. I tried Chinese for the first time last night since surgery. It was ok, but mostly I ended up eating some Teryaki chicken, an egg roll, some crab ragoon (I think it was all creme cheese) and a fried plantain. I was sooo stuffed, that I was miserable for atleast 30 minutes.. but mmm.. I've missed chinese. 6. I havent taken any vitamins in atleast 3 weeks. Yes, I know I should.. but dang it.. I can never remember. I think thats all for now.. but Other than my excersize, I've been doing some bad things.... and while I know its a bad mindset to want to punish myself with 2 hours of cardio.. (lol!! I did an hour and a half the other night... with toning and strenght training) every time I mess up.. I dont want to be a failure. I have a dream of one day being a freelance trainer along with my Network administrator dream job... lol. I know there is only one way to get there...
~ Stylz ~
on 9/25/06 2:19 am - North of Boston, MA
great post Jess! I'm sure we all have confessions (even though some can't come to terms with admitting to them, including myself), here are the ones I can think of... I had litterally 1 sip of Diet Mt. Dew (a little after 3 months) and was sick for 45 minutes (that will teach me)!! Occasionally I have a sugar free red bull (pour the can in a blender, blend for 10 minutes, add a full can of water, a cup of ice and blend again for another 10 min this way its diluted and it gets rid of most carbonation). Still haven't tried white sugar, but boy did One Life and Its Mine make me drool when she said warm krispy kreme donut!!!!!!!! was it glazed?? I remember the days I'd drive to work and purposly stop at this gas station to fill up just because it was close to the krispy kreme. AHHHHHHHHH pumpkin latte and 2 kreme filled donuts please...... ((waking up from la la land )) I know I eat WAY too fast. I think I had cereal (3/4 c) this morning in about 15 minutes... Felt awful after it went for a walk to help digest it. I've tried fried food! not much of it (aren't comments like not much of it, occasionally, stressing small amounts signs of still being in denial?? ) but I've had a fried shrimp and 2 gold fingers from the Chinese restaurant (not on the same day), a couple fried shrimp from a seafood restaurant and 2 fried clams when we went to the casino (I was so afraid with the clams, even tho I love them! The nurse at the weight mgt center told me how a patient went to a seafood restaurant and ate fried clams. Because they're so rubbery and she didnt chew enough they got stuck and she went in for surgery to have them removed! Needless to say she's now known as the "fried clam patient") My chocolate addiction pre-op has transformed into a salt addiction post-op! I find myself eating a couple chips or pizza combos or crackers now and then.. Had to stop buying that kind of stuff even tho it seems like now that I'm eating it my weight loss sped up (it took me a while to get to 600 calories, obviously junk food adds up and puts me over 600 so I'd lose more in a week, but just not the right way to do it)! I think thats it for my confessions... I'll have to come back and read it over and over again to stop the issue!! thanks for the post Jess!
luckycat1
on 9/23/06 11:04 am - Cincinnati, OH
Since we are confessing. I have to confess that I have been snacking on s/f cookies. Darn those things are good. 5 is a serving I will only eat 2 at a time but I will go back several times. They are not that big are low in sugar alcohols but they are high in carbs. I need to throw them out before I eat the entire package. I had my issue with FF Pringles about a week ago. Those things were so yummy the salt was great--they just melted in my mouth. Not sure what happened to the can lol. I see a pattern with me and snacking. Once I start I can not stop. So I am not going to be able to have that kind of stuff in the house until I can learn how to control myself (yep I see therapy in my future) because I will eat it non stop. I need to add more fruit in my diet seeing as though I have next to none --I only eat a half a banana a day due to low potassium. I might have some canned peaches or a fourth of an apple. Even though I have worked out 3x this week I found myself not wanting to go. I rather sit on my sofa--yikes isn't that one of the reasons why I am overweight???? My head is playing games with me too. I find myself trying to stay under 700 calories a day. Yep I know that is not enough I have already been yelled at by my doctor and nutritionist. They want me to get up to 950 calories by the time I go back next month (they really want me around 1100 but I told them there was no way so the 950 is a compromise). Like I said my head is playing games with me. I feel guilty when I do eat even if it is good food or snack food--like I said therapy is in my future :>). I know I do not drink enough water--I know better because this past summer I had two bouts with dehydration and that was not fun! I think we all do something to sabotage ourselves. For me I wonder if it is because I am "afraid" to be thin? I have noticed more guys flirting with me when I am out with friends and even at church. For some reason that scares me because I have never gotten a lot of attention from guys before. Oh well like I said I know therapy is in my future. I am so glad you posted this. I feel better now that I confessed! So no more snacking on snacks I am going throw out those s/f cookies. No more F/F Pringles since I can not stop at 1 serving. I am going to try and add more fruit into my diet (I am sure that will help with my poop issues). One thing I did learn which is kind of funny and sad at the same time --my cat can eat more then I can now (if you want to see his picture pull up my picture trail and he is on there) You all have a good evening. MJ
sparkles
on 9/23/06 12:46 pm - North Richland Hills, TX
Ya know what? After dinner at night, I like to have a snack.. I've found the best thing for me is some frozen fruit (strawberries or mixed berries are my favorites) and some sugar free cool whip. I only have a few pieces of fruit and a little bit of coolwhip, and its like 70 calories.. and its YUMMY!! Give them a try!
miminjoey
on 9/24/06 10:50 pm - Fort Bragg, NC
UGH!!!! Ok i bought a bag of M&M's for my kids the other day and forgot one of the boys was spending the night with a friend so his bag got left behind...well hubby caught me last night sneaking a few....needless to say they are in the trash now...but until now chocolate made me throw up so when I had 2 the other day and they tasted so good for 1st time in 6 months I couldn't help but sneak a few more. I do not drink enough water....I simply don't think about it, i drink when i am thirsty, which is a sign I've already waited too long....if I have water in my hand I do good as soon as I ut it down out of sight out of mind. I also noticed I would eat until i was full rather then measurring my food and stopping, which is such a no no because by the time I realize I am full sometimes I am too full. I need to go back to posting what i eat everyday and you guys need to yell at me for not eatting right...yep you heard me i gave you permission to yell at me...but I know it will be out of love! Mimi 1st apt 315 surgery 278 now 190 goal 160
Kylie S
on 9/23/06 9:46 pm - Melba, Australia
Hi Jess, I too confess to struggling. I am shocking sometimes. I really need to start keeping a food journal so that I can actually see what I consume. At least a lot of people on here seem to be aware of how many calories they are consuming in a day, I have no idea. But to be honest I never have wanted to count calories, if that had worked for me in the past I might not have got to where I was that I needed the surgery. Please no one take that as I am having a go at people who can count calories, I actually admire people who do, I just have never been able to, or better said as have never wanted to. I knew going in to this surgery that it was only a tool and that I would have to use my tool effectively to lose the weight I wanted to. Only problem is that I am stubborn and lazy and seem to like to sabotage myself. I even ignored OH for a while. I guess I wanted to think I was normal. HA!! My confessions: 1) I eat too much. Sometimes it's my portion size, sometimes it's the amount I consume in a whole day. 2) I snack, problem foods at the moment are microwave popcorn and picnic bars!!! 3) I do not drink enough water. 4) While I do exercise I do not do it often enough and I am not good at managing a walk everyday. (Amazing that I can go to the gym and do BodyPump followed by BodyJam but can not manage to take my dog for a daily walk). I think it is like someone else posted, we do these things and continue to lose weight, so continue to do these things but then the weight loss stops but the bad habits are well and truly back. This does not make us bad people, in fact it jsut shows that we are human and that many of us face these problems. It is the coming to terms with them and changing our patterns that are the problem. I wonder what will help me get back on track, hopefully admitting these issues on here will help. Good luck with your six month check up. Cheers Kylie
sparkles
on 9/24/06 1:40 am - North Richland Hills, TX
Kylie, I must say.. I love your name.. so pretty! You said one of your snacking habits is Microwave popcorn... and if you cant stop snacking all together.. atleast be smarter about it.. Popsecret just came out with a 100 calorie bag of popcorn, so you arent taking in so many calories from such a light snack! It tastes the same as normal to me... I mean.. its not saturated in butter and salt, but it does have a little butter and its pretty good. Good luck!
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