JOANIE !!!
"an addiction you love to talk about but not do anything about" I have to say that is unfair don’t you think? She went from 400 to 158 I kinda think she's had an amazingly successful battle with her addictions. It will always be a struggle for mostly all of us probably for the rest of our lives. Even with a therapist.
Attitude…you know…there is no white or black right or wrong here. Everyone is different! I’m a huge example when it comes to attitude. I have a “never give up" and “keep positive" attitude about loosing weight yet I STILL haven’t gone under 200. It’s physical as well. Extremely when it comes to sugar. Determination is also a huge factor. Willpower is a huge factor… there are so many Quote “Factors" we can’t argue that its only attitude or only willpower or addiction or determination… its everything all blended into one lovely battle. True?
Sometimes it comes down to going cold turkey when your an addict at times and getting it out of your system...happy or not, attitude be darned…you just have to quit. Period. Get it physically out of your system. Sometimes you don’t even have time to think about attitude when that happens. It’s just DONE. believe me, been there and been there. OR (with help such as methadone) in my case.... Sugar free candies!!! That’s when the determination and attitude start creeping into play. Its all relative.
Look...we're all different. Some people eat carbs….if I do I go crazy. I'm getting ready to talk to my doc about celiac disease because it keeps popping up. But, because its not included in the diet doesn’t mean that its not a reasonable diet. I’m just meaning that what may look like very little and unappealing to one person (as long as it is healthy) may be perfect for another.
For example my diet may and actually has resembled Maureen’s with the protein for breakfast and lunch…most are chock full of vitamins and such while it looks very minimal, protein drinks contain alot of calories based on the ones that you buy... I just had labs done and I eat ALOT of good protein and my protein levels are low because (per the doctor) of my weight loss surgery. (I stopped drinking them awhile ago) Now, I have to drink them again. I'm trying to loose weight so I have to reduce my eating. Sensible dinner protein and veggies and such... looks very minimal...but enough calories to loose and remain healthy. I lost some weight...been sick too so that added to it...but the doc said that what I'm eating is ok. But to list it and look at it...yeah some may be like...whoa... can't do it...looks too little... but doesn't mean it’s unreasonable or unhealthy. Maybe that is where the misunderstanding is comming into play? At any rate…no one is allowed to leave and we are all here to support each other… Maureen you are doing awesome. You’re still my hero. We’ll always be battling sugar addiction. It’s gonna be with us forever unfortunately. Hang in there! If it’s working for you stick with it! Besides…I’m eyeballing what you’re eating because I’m pretty much doing exactly the same thing. Oh lost 8 pounds by the way!!! Yay!! Finally! Whew!
Attitude…you know…there is no white or black right or wrong here. Everyone is different! I’m a huge example when it comes to attitude. I have a “never give up" and “keep positive" attitude about loosing weight yet I STILL haven’t gone under 200. It’s physical as well. Extremely when it comes to sugar. Determination is also a huge factor. Willpower is a huge factor… there are so many Quote “Factors" we can’t argue that its only attitude or only willpower or addiction or determination… its everything all blended into one lovely battle. True?
Sometimes it comes down to going cold turkey when your an addict at times and getting it out of your system...happy or not, attitude be darned…you just have to quit. Period. Get it physically out of your system. Sometimes you don’t even have time to think about attitude when that happens. It’s just DONE. believe me, been there and been there. OR (with help such as methadone) in my case.... Sugar free candies!!! That’s when the determination and attitude start creeping into play. Its all relative.
Look...we're all different. Some people eat carbs….if I do I go crazy. I'm getting ready to talk to my doc about celiac disease because it keeps popping up. But, because its not included in the diet doesn’t mean that its not a reasonable diet. I’m just meaning that what may look like very little and unappealing to one person (as long as it is healthy) may be perfect for another.
For example my diet may and actually has resembled Maureen’s with the protein for breakfast and lunch…most are chock full of vitamins and such while it looks very minimal, protein drinks contain alot of calories based on the ones that you buy... I just had labs done and I eat ALOT of good protein and my protein levels are low because (per the doctor) of my weight loss surgery. (I stopped drinking them awhile ago) Now, I have to drink them again. I'm trying to loose weight so I have to reduce my eating. Sensible dinner protein and veggies and such... looks very minimal...but enough calories to loose and remain healthy. I lost some weight...been sick too so that added to it...but the doc said that what I'm eating is ok. But to list it and look at it...yeah some may be like...whoa... can't do it...looks too little... but doesn't mean it’s unreasonable or unhealthy. Maybe that is where the misunderstanding is comming into play? At any rate…no one is allowed to leave and we are all here to support each other… Maureen you are doing awesome. You’re still my hero. We’ll always be battling sugar addiction. It’s gonna be with us forever unfortunately. Hang in there! If it’s working for you stick with it! Besides…I’m eyeballing what you’re eating because I’m pretty much doing exactly the same thing. Oh lost 8 pounds by the way!!! Yay!! Finally! Whew!
"Never act until you have answered the question 'What happens if I do nothing?'" - Robert Brault
"Love is borne from soul to soul on the wings of words." - Rudolph Steiner
Elizabeth M 
I respectfully disagree, Kim (you say, "no one is faulting her at all."). Joan's post was definitely an attack and she said some hurtful things - I would really appreciate it if someone would point me to those posts from people that said I was attacking them because they didn't agree with me. I really don't recall seeing those - so perhaps people were contacting Joan personally to share those thoughts, which is fine, really ... but like I've said before, I can't fix what I don't know is broken. If I've done something that has hurt or offended someone, give me the opportunity to fix that. Take care, everyone. Maureen
Wow, an 8 lb. loss must feel very good! You've been trying to turn this around for a long time - I'm glad it's working for you (although being sick might have played a part, no?). 
Sorry, Elizabeth, you got me ADDICTED to using these smiley-face icons! Thanks for your good words of support - we're all here to do that for each other. Hope you feel better!! Love ya, Maureen
Sorry, Elizabeth, you got me ADDICTED to using these smiley-face icons! Thanks for your good words of support - we're all here to do that for each other. Hope you feel better!! Love ya, Maureen OH yeah being sick definitely had a big hand!!! lol... I did cut the sugar out though. :) yay!!! probably about 4 is from cutting the sugar and 4 from being blech... I bought some sugar free candy... there are some REALLY yummy ones... there is this cocunut with an almond covered in chocolate one by sweet and low that is SOOO good and it TOTALLY hits the spot when you are wanting the chocolate or candy and then hersheys SF recees cups and hershesy has this yummy chocoalte with gewey caramel in the center thats SF. and whats cool is i dont go overboard because the sugar alcohols for some WEIRD reason make me dump more than the regular chocolates.... but it helps curb that craving until its out of my system. I'm feeling WAAAY better. I just have to keep it up!!! 
"Never act until you have answered the question 'What happens if I do nothing?'" - Robert Brault
"Love is borne from soul to soul on the wings of words." - Rudolph Steiner
Elizabeth M
Why wouldn't I want to read this, Kim (what you say in your opening sentence)? I can't think of anyone I know-myself included-who doesn't believe that a positive attitude is important to have and to share, no matter what. What I am debating here is that addiction is something that can be cured with a positive attitude; addiction is a disease, it's a condition that is manipulated by the way our brain chemistry is altered by a given substance. I try very hard to stay positive in my life; I have come to this Board in times of great sadness many times because of what I was dealing with at the time. I thought it was ok for me to do that, that this Board was a place of support and where I could reach out and get some valuable advice. And terrific recipes on Wednesdays! 
I'm grateful for that and for being able to express my views even when they ruffle a few feathers - although I never intend to hurt anyone - ever. As for this thread, I was merely trying to get at a better understanding of the concept of "attitude" as it relates to addiction. Not my drama! Positively yours, Maureen
I'm grateful for that and for being able to express my views even when they ruffle a few feathers - although I never intend to hurt anyone - ever. As for this thread, I was merely trying to get at a better understanding of the concept of "attitude" as it relates to addiction. Not my drama! Positively yours, Maureen 
OMG...this is getting tiring....but a few things:
1. A positive attitude in and of itself is not going to cure any sort of an addiction. But it helps the process. If you have a real problem with addiction, counselors and therapist trained in the field are the best bet.
2. I would never EVER down play the accomplishment Reenie has obtained. She has done an amazing job with her weight loss.
3. I am being accused of saying things I never said. I never told her she was weak. What I did say is that I am tired of the drama. And I am.
4. I also want to thank Kimberly for her sensable comments. I wasn't trying to beat anyone up. I was asked what I do so I wrote about it. Sorry if people don't like it....it is what it is...but it is not meant to judge anyone or put any one down.
5. If you can't accept an opinion, don't ask for it.
Now for the important things in life. My daughter has been in Israel since Jan 1. That is my real priority at the moment.
To everyone on this board....take care, be healthy, be well...and take care of yourselves.
Joanie
1. A positive attitude in and of itself is not going to cure any sort of an addiction. But it helps the process. If you have a real problem with addiction, counselors and therapist trained in the field are the best bet.
2. I would never EVER down play the accomplishment Reenie has obtained. She has done an amazing job with her weight loss.
3. I am being accused of saying things I never said. I never told her she was weak. What I did say is that I am tired of the drama. And I am.
4. I also want to thank Kimberly for her sensable comments. I wasn't trying to beat anyone up. I was asked what I do so I wrote about it. Sorry if people don't like it....it is what it is...but it is not meant to judge anyone or put any one down.
5. If you can't accept an opinion, don't ask for it.
Now for the important things in life. My daughter has been in Israel since Jan 1. That is my real priority at the moment.
To everyone on this board....take care, be healthy, be well...and take care of yourselves.
Joanie
Most Active
Recent Topics
