Perspective

Joan Stonehill
on 10/16/08 11:43 am - TN
Just want to say I am leaving for vacation and won't be around for a bit.  We are taking a cruise to Bermuda.  I've been reading very intently about everyone starting new each day....with the 'I'm not eating his and that' sort of talk, only to log on later to find out that the 'fresh start' didn't quite work out. 
Well, when I get back from vacation, I am going back to the old reliable Weigh****chers.  It's all about moderation and accountability.  It helps you stay in control.  It's something everyone can live with.  We just have to stop setting unrealistic goals for ourselves.  We have to be honest with ourselves as to what will work and what won't.  When we first had our surgeries, we were living on next to nothing caloriewise.  No one could sustain that forever, I don't care what anyone says.  I read someone's post that said she messed up her plan by eating half of a roast beef sandwich. How is that breaking a plan?  Eating half a sandwich for lunch is normal eating.  People will post that they 'feel better' when they don't eat this or that.  BUT THEY CAN'T SUSTAIN IT!!!  And then they feel like failures and overeat as a result. 
Let's get real, folks.  Find a balanced plan that you can live with.  One that is NOT unrealistic.  I really do believe if you do that, you'll be fine.
Keeping it real,
Joanie

Margo M.
on 10/16/08 8:51 pm - Elyria, OH
bravo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i venture out to the main board sometimes and look at charlie's eatin good post----i absoluetly cannot believe that ppl think they can sustain HEALTH on what little they say they eat.....i may not have reached goal- yet!- but i know that the way so many try to eat is so unhealthy!!!! even post wls!!!!!!!!!!!

have a wonderful peaceful vacation.....see you back soon!!!!

I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult.
- E. B. White

 

reenieb
on 10/16/08 11:12 pm
RNY on 03/08/04 with
Sure wish I was going with you!!!   Have a GRRRREEEEAAAAATTTTT time.
redzz04
on 10/17/08 12:09 am
Have fun!!! souds awesome!!!

OK, so I am I'm one of those people you read about!!!  not the roast beef thing... but the i wasn't going to eat this or that. Weigh****chers isnt an answer for me per se...   what the answer is for me is cutting out sugar and carbs. period. I come on here and say i set a goal for myself and then come on the next day to say i broke that goal to be held accountable. it helps me. Id probably f-up on weigh****chers too and still do that. Its the support i need. There have been times that i actually HAVE stuck to my goal. its HARD the hardest part is to cut out the sugar and get over that sugar addiction... wean it out of your system. Sad to say though... i may be on here again saying... darnit i messed up!!! actually i just did that.... unfortunately. i dont think cutting out sugar and carbs is an unrealistic do you? i guess it comes down to individuality... maybe some cannot stand to live without the bread or sugar?? in that case i totally agree with you in that moderation and accountailibty is your best bet. for me I KNOW cutting out the sugar is the key... once i manage to get a week off it its SOOOO much easier for me... its getting past that week that is so hard. I'm never giving up though.  

 "Never act until you have answered the question 'What happens if I do nothing?'" - Robert Brault
"Love is borne from soul to soul on the wings of words." - Rudolph Steiner  
 Elizabeth M 
 

Joan Stonehill
on 10/17/08 2:29 am - TN
Honestly?  Do I think it's unrealistic to totally give up sugar and carbs?  Yes.  I think it's unrealistic to say "I will never eat (fill in the blank) ever again" when it's something that is a part of an every day balanced diet.  It comes down to the fact that, for the most part, it can't be done.  Now, if you want to get specific and give up 'bad' carbs, that's different.  You can replace white bread with whole grain breads, white pasta with whole grain pasta. There is natural sugar in fruits, which are healthy for you.  All I am saying is that if people start 'new' each morning, and have already f'd up by 10am, maybe it's time to start looking at new and realistic ways to do this.  For me Weigh****chers is good because it affords 2 things:  balance and accountability.  And if it's the support you need, the meetings can be wonderful with the right leader.  Planning ahead and knowing what you are going to eat each day.  To me, these are lifetime skills that we can all benefit from.  And no, I don't work for Weigh****chers.  I've just looked at a lot of different lifetime eating plans and this seems to be the most realistic. 

Just my thoughts...
Joanie
redzz04
on 10/17/08 3:26 am
Shoot ... if weigh****chers only worked for me I would've never had weight loss surgery. Cudos for anyone who can do it and be successful at it. Its an awesome program and definitely realistic, please dont get me wrong, and for some its perfect. Unfortuantely not me personally. But honestly...its way more than just picking out the right program. If I say i've f'up by 10am... its my head not always my program. My head isn't quite right. I think many can agree on that... overeating is an additction... or whatever you want to call it.  Illness... whatever... which is why many of us have therapists and food coaches etc... I'm also talking about bad carbs not fruit and whole grains. and im also not saying "I'm never going to eat this this or this again." He!! I WISH I could say that... but what i CAN say is that i'm cutting out all candy and bad carbs. (Not forever because everyone messes up) It CAN be done as I did it before after loosing 50 lbs after wls... the rest was me restricting my bad sugar and carbs. 100+ pounds says that it can be done... its just soooooo hard to get rid of that sugar in your system to a point where you are comfortable enough to control that terrible hunger.

as far as support being what i need... weigh****chers is great for support. For sure. For me though... i love this board. and the support that i get with all of you fellow wls friends. I will continue to come her and say darnit! I f'd up today!!! and restart anew until i get it right. its my head more than anything thats delaying my further weight loss. Maybe im just a hopeless failure... but he!! no matter what im not giving up.

 "Never act until you have answered the question 'What happens if I do nothing?'" - Robert Brault
"Love is borne from soul to soul on the wings of words." - Rudolph Steiner  
 Elizabeth M 
 

KimberlyH
on 10/17/08 2:30 am
Have a GREAT TIME!!!! I hear that cruise is really nice and the food is fabulous...enjoy!!! Give us details when you get back and be safe!!! 

"To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also dream, not only plan, but also believe"  ----"Anatole France"

"Joyously grasp the ties that bind you, for they lead straight to the heart"---"Wm."


Kimberly...

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