Wellll?

lemarie22
on 10/2/08 11:00 pm - Glendale, AZ
OK, what did you guys think about the debate?
redzz04
on 10/2/08 11:34 pm

oooo i get to respond first  maybe
 (I know everyone is proably groaning) heehee...

I liked it. I was highly entertained and she did very well. (Biden was better). I dont think she was wired either. I really honestly don't. I was surprised she handled herself well. She was nervous at first, but who wouldn't be? Biden was a cool cat. Smiling and laughing when she laid into him. She actually cracked me up a few times. Cracked him up and the audience up too. She did well. My opinion. I just don't agree with all that she said. But there were definitely a few points they sorta agreed on. I dont' know where I stand on drilling for oil in alaska... I think we should only because we are in economic crisis and depending on foreign oil for anything is not good at this point, BUT then again... if we go that route, I'm afraid that politicians will then not focus on the alternative energy and say... "hey we can put this off for awhile cuz we have all these tons of barrels of oil." so I'm not sure I am in agreement with drilling. I think the answer lies with alternative energy, BUT until we have that established (in the mean time) we need a resolution now for the economy and drilling makes sense. but im just so afraid that it will offset the work in getting alternative energy. Did that make sense??? i dont know. Im just not a big fan of drilling.

Biden name dropped my town... didya hear? claymont and wilmington etc... lol.  He was giving a litlte shout out to us. My husband saw him alot in the gas station getting coffee where he was working on doing some tile work on a house around there a number of times.

When he got choked up about his kid in the war... oh man... I teared up. The war is also a point for me... I think we definitely need a timeline and a time to pull out... but i also think that they have to be stable before they do this and im not sure that they are. I think it should be the generals call then the final decision to the pres to be SURE that the army etc... feel secure enough to agree to a pull out. i think the troops that are there need more funding. im not talking about putting more money into the war and into iraq im talking SPECIFICALLY for our solders. Make sure they have all the equipemnt and clothing they need!!! I KNOW they havent based on the many men (husbands and sons) here at work that are over there and what we've sent them and have heard. Both have been bad about that. Obama AND McCain. makes me mad!   i think we need to be sure that the iraqi army is secure. but we definitely need a timeline for a pull out. I think Obama is responsible enough to work with the general and come to the right agreement. I don't know what to think about iran vs pakistan and who is the worse threat. I sorta agree with obama... i think pakistan holds an enormous threat... but so does iran... ah... im with biden on that because he is a man who was vehement about iran and israel and such. i think all in all biden won hands down... but i have to give her credit on sticking it to those oil companies in her state and even biden gave her credit for that. It was all well and good but... not quite enough . but she did do well :)  (Biden did better).

lemarie22
on 10/2/08 11:46 pm - Glendale, AZ
I agree that she did well.  I wish she would have ansered the questions, though.  On some of the questions, she addressed topics she was more comfortable with and bypassed the question all together.  I don't think she was wired either.  When Biden was a little emotional about his kids in the hospital, she moved past it without comment or acknowledgement.  I thought that made her look a little driven and uncompassionate.  When she said that she had only been at this 5 weeks, it made me think that Saurday Night Live is going to have a field day with that comment.  I was impressed with Bidens foreign relations experience.  He even referred to Bosniaks, which sounds like a gaffe, but is the term for Bosnian Muslims.  She was polished and she did well on the questions she actually answered, but Biden's knowledge was much more impressive to me. 

Oh, oh, oh! How could I forget!  Her statements of expanding the job of the VP in the senate scared the bejeezus out  of me.  That's what Cheney does and frankly it goes against the Constitution.  Never mind her taking over the presidency, I'm worried about her running the Senate.

redzz04
on 10/3/08 1:08 am
The Bosniaks term stood out with me as well ... :)  oh oh oh and YES! I agree with you regarding the VP in the senate issue!!! Biden... nipped that in the bud by calling Cheyney out. I was like YIKES!!!  and yeah she didn't answer the questions and diverted to oil and energy alot (what she was comfortable with) to cover her butt. She held herself well enough. I just dont agree with her. haha... yeah 5 weeks... i thought that was a big oops on her part.  OH and I TOTALLY agree with the fact she made no comment when Biden was emotional. I think she mentally panicked and went with the "lets hurry and get past the emotional part so he can compose himself" which was a bad move. She should have acknowledged it and was shocked she didn't. I remember shaking my head . shame shame.

Shes not ready for this. she just isnt.

I am dying to run into Biden though in Greenville here in DE. I want to ask him about Partial Birth and his thoughts about the ban. I wish my goofy husband would've said something to him. Even a hello... but he froze. heehee...  these smileys are funny...
redzz04
on 10/3/08 1:15 am
OH! and Biden totally held back. He really is a powerhouse of information. Truly. since he held so much back it shows he is more then competent and she is well...not.

i also hated when she said. "Oh here you go Joe looking back to the past..." etc... well UUUMMM... (and he finally said something to this effect as well after she said that line a few times) the PAST is what shows us our mistakes... if we dont see what we did wrong in the past how can we correct things for the future... (dumb a$$)
she also mentioned that global warming wasn't all man made... for the most part it is... things are cyclical true, but there is scientific proof that we are ruinning the environment and that she had no facts to present was poor on her part ESPECIALLY since she is the quote "alsakan queen". Bad Show. But then "tradition" shows the republicans were never ones to focus on the environment. 'sigh' time for her and them to wake up. Thankfully many of them are... aside from the ones that truly count such as the presidential candidates.  not good.
KimberlyH
on 10/2/08 11:57 pm
I dont get into religious or political conversations....but I will say I thought she did well. 
reenieb
on 10/3/08 3:25 am
RNY on 03/08/04 with
She did exactly as I predicted - performed well, like a good little monkey who is extremely well rehearsed. Had she been asked any of those questions in an interview situation without any coaching - she would have frozen because she does not have breadth of knowledge, nor does she understand the meaning of the word diplomacy. If she winked at the camera one more time, I would have found a way to throw myself through the lens and wring her pretty little neck. Hot little gov'nor isn't she? She hit her base. Fundamentalists. Men who think women belong barefoot and pregnant and men belong in the woods with their rifles and beer. In these respects, I agree with you - she did well. But she is no Jodi Rell (did you know Jodi Rell was McCain's first choice but she turned him down FLAT?) She's no Diane Fienstien, no Hillary Clinton, no Claire McCaskill, Olympia Snow, Debbie Stabenow... she IS a hockey mom, beauty queen, card-carrying member of the PTA - but she does not belong in the White House.
redzz04
on 10/3/08 4:51 am

 



that was sooo funny... I couldn't resist.  hahhaaa... 

I didn't notice her winking. How the heck did i miss that? I saw the dumb ol debate twice. I kept shifting my gaze though to my computer. Gosh we can't compare her to any sound woman in politics. I don't want her running my country either. I just can't believe that McCain chose her. That to me...made him loose the election. With his health and age...God Forbid... I seriously don't think anyone would want her as president.  Has to be the worst call. The only thing I liked that she did was that she stuck it to those oil company when they got that gov tax break she didn't agree with but... thats it. Biden agreed and gave her credit for it... but that was like IT. the ONLY thing and she kept reverting back to that and being a hockey mom. when she was rambling about talking to the women on how the economic crisis affects their life and savings and college... i kept thinking uh... No DUH. AND Your point and your plan is what?????     we know you know now what are you going to do about it???  As if biden and obama don't take into consideration that this is what is on everyones minds. We ALL know that is what everyone is thinking about. she was yammering. so when he pulled up his personal experiences --- as painful as they were --- to show... hey lady you arent the only on that can relate...Good for him and cudos for having the guts to drudge up the painful past to prove a point and get her off her "I'm the hockey mom I can relate better than you" kick she was on. it caught her off guard and i think she drew a blank when he pulled that on her.

Diplomacy... there is another big deciding factor for me... Obama all the way with that.  I want to know how incredibly DANGEROUS it is for us to sit down with our mortal enemies and talk. Everyone talks about the dangers and such... because one country would be angry if we did so??? But dont we have to know our enemy? Dont we have to get into their minds?? how are we going to do this if we cut off all talks with our enemies? I just dont get that.  I just dont. someone explain this to me.

Margo M.
on 10/3/08 3:39 am - Elyria, OH
i was not impressed..lost interest about 20 minutes after i turned it on (late) and went to bed...missed biden's part about his wife.thought palin skipped around and sounded defensive...
just sayin

I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult.
- E. B. White

 

lemarie22
on 10/3/08 4:06 am - Glendale, AZ
I think The Man summed it up pretty well this morning.  He said that she is trying to appeal to middle America and "Joe six pack" and the  hockey moms.  They identify with her and that's wonderful, but he said "I don't want someone like me in the White House."  I don't want someone who is as smart as me.  I want someone who is smarter than me, someone who knows how to move through the issues and someone who is experienced in this arena.  I don't want "Joe six pack" moderating the Senate.  That says alot coming from a man who is a PhD and a constitutional law expert.  He is a consultant for law firms on constitutional law and if wants someone smarter than him in the White House, I don't think the former mayor of Wasilla is going to cut it. 
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